After reading a tread about what people pack in BOBs. This is the one that I have for my car. Everything fits into a Burton Snowboarding bag. This bag aslo has a bag for a water bladder.
Flares
Tent stakes
Parachute Cord
Fixed Blade
2 cans of sterno fuel in side pockets of bag
steelwool and 9 volt battery
E-Tool
Axe and Hammer
Wire Ties
Flashlight
Tool Wrap
Scissors
Pencils
Matches
Etool with can opener
E Poncho, E Blanket and Wipes
MRE heaters
MRE meal junk
compass
ligter logs
mirror
2 pairs of gloves
small bag with radio and batteries
Water purification tablets
Insect repellent
I need to add rice and a canteen.
With this bag full I still have room to carry a small medical kit and 2 handguns with 1 brick of .22s and a couple 1911 or Sig 226 Mags. There is absolutely nothing tactical about this bag. Its purly functional. I also need to add handwarmers and high calorie food bars.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/085759-big.jpg
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JShirley
January 4, 2004, 07:35 PM
Looks like you've put some thought into this.
How much does this weigh? Have you considered adding a small tarp? How about 4 lightweight bungee cords?
I'm used to hearing small folding shovels called "E-tools". Is this what you mean, or do you mean a multi-tool (Leatherman, Gerber, etc)?
If you have an e-tool, do you need a hammer?
You definitely have a lot of potentially useful gear. I guess I'm not sure whether you mean for this to be manportable. I suppose I might be most comfortable with a tool bag for "good but not essential" gear, with vital items in a backpack. Just a thought...humping anything can get old quick, especially through wicked terrain in inclement weather.
John
Need to replenish Alice...
edit- picture finally loaded! Okay, looks like you've got a good start on a vehicle bag. Now, I would think about a load in an easily carryable format, maybe something like this: multitool (will have knife, scissors, etc), fire sources, small tarp or military poncho, 4 pack bungee cords, pair extra thick socks, a few of those peanut butter or cheese MRE packs (switch them out; I was surprised to find they could go bad), water. Depending on the type bag you get, you may be able to lash a decent fixed blade shovel- such as the Special Forces shovel from Cold Steel, or any of several such surplus shovels- onto the outside of your bag. (This would give you an expedient ax, hammer, shovel, and weapon.) To your vehicle pack, I would definitely add an extra-large tub of baby wipes. You can get the large generic size at Wally World for no more than $3.00, and just switch this out yearly. Field sanitation is something a lot of folks overlook, and these will not only make your life easier, but safer. You can add a "travel pack" of wipes to your carry pack for $1.00.
45R
January 4, 2004, 07:52 PM
The BOB is for a one or two day emergency. Anything else I would probably need to hump it and find food and more supplies. I have a rather large ammo box in the car that contains a few small bungies, a medical kit. I've left the axe and hammer in the kit because the Etool hasnt been proven yet. A friend in the Army sent it to me in exchange for some tools he couldnt get in Korea. It looks sturdy enough. A tarp is a good idea esp for shelter. The Emergency Poncho probably wont cut if if I have to really dig in.
If I had to hump it over crummy landscape the tool roll, axe and hammer would get buried once I know the Etool can handle the job.
The bag currently weights probably no more than 25lbs.
Here is a picture of the E-tool
Edit to add
looks like you've got a good start on a vehicle bag. Now, I would think about a load in an easily carryable format, maybe something like this: multitool (will have knife, scissors, etc), fire sources, small tarp or military poncho, 4 pack bungee cords, pair extra thick socks, a few of those peanut butter or cheese MRE packs (switch them out; I was surprised to find they could go bad), water
The scissors and can opener stuff were added before I got a multitool. I am definetly a believer in those things now. I will probably pack one or 2 military ponchos and socks. Socks are good. I hate soggy feet.
JShirley
January 4, 2004, 08:00 PM
Yeah, sorry, I wrote the first part not knowing if your pic would come up.
Those E-Tools aren't bad, but they're really only good for digging in and hammering. If you have the advantage of a vehicle to lug it in, get a better shovel. You can always choose some type of carry system that will allow you to fasten your E-tool on, since it's lightweight, its one big advantage. I've beat all hell out of those tools, and they work pretty well, within their limitations. Folding is a mixed blessing!
I really don't mean to sound like I'm down on your gear; it sounds like you've got the right idea. At the very least, get a cheap backpack from Wally World, so you can move with your hands free, should you need to. May not be alien Elvis clones invading; you could have the dam burst, or something, and may need to move fast, and away from your car. Oh- one more thing. Consider getting something like a Pelican L1 LED. Not expensive, weighs almost nothing, lasts a long time, is surprisingly capable. I've often used Cases 4 Less, but there are several very nice folk here who sell lights, too.
One of the guys visiting the hunting cabin last night, was complaining about the snoring in the other sleeping area. Grabbed a tarp, 4 bungees, a little twine, and whipped up a shelter in a few minutes. No problema...until they started calling me "Ranger Joe"...:rolleyes: :D
45R
January 4, 2004, 08:18 PM
I've got the LED light covered with a Streamlight Stylus penlight. The thing works great and made of metal. I take that with me just about everywere. I've also got a surefire in the car with fresh batteries. Just in case.... :)
Its not packed neat by any means but its a bunch of things that will make life a little easier if I need to get out fast. Rice is easy to cook over a fire source and if will help keep me moving if I am away for the masses for a long period of time. I've also got a pair of Ti chopsticks I need to add into that bag...
The parachute cord has made my life easier on many occasions. So has a tarp. One time we went camping and the damn tent had a small hole in it. The thing was brand new and we had a storm. The inside of the tent started dripping so I pulled out the tarp and covered the side of the tent that was leaking.................the Parachute cord help hold it down from being blown away.
JShirley
January 4, 2004, 08:26 PM
Good deal w/ the Stylus. Makes an innocuous defensive tool, too. :D
Give me a day or two to verify...may have a reading suggestion for you.*
You really do have a lot of good gear. A couple small items and a carry system, and you should be "GTG". :)
*Wait a minute. Ti chopsticks? Maybe you don't need any Eta Koppo/Yarawa suggestions!
Skunkabilly
January 4, 2004, 09:12 PM
My Benelli M1 Super 90 skeet gun for when blue helmeted alien fallschirmjagers beam down from those Aeroflot birds and my SHTF kit and some pre-packaged water and HeaterMeals when I barricade myself in my Honda Crisis Response Vehicle (CRV).
http://www.skunkabilly.com/images/tactical/shtf.jpg
Stowed in the vehicle in the second row. Fire extinguisher secured with paracord to driver-side seatbelt. Safety pin secured to fire extinguisher as I broke the retainer years ago :banghead:
http://www.skunkabilly.com/images/tactical/shtfstowed.jpg
Will break apart the contents later ...it's getting dark.
45R
January 4, 2004, 09:14 PM
J-
Here are the pictures of the Ti Chopsticks and a Ti Ring. I've got a thing for Ti.
45R
http://www.hunt101.com/img/085820.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/img/085821.jpg
Skunkabilly
January 4, 2004, 09:18 PM
What's the ring for--your friends that don't know how to use chopsticks? :confused:
Hey everyone:
Q: What do you call a container for dead batteries?
A: A flashlight. Check your batteries, people! While you're at it, reinventory your first aid kit--you may have 'borrowed' something out of it months ago and forgot....
JShirley
January 4, 2004, 09:23 PM
Jeff, since you have the approved gear carrier with hydration system, but sans ridiculous marketing ads with lots of explosions, I pronounce you Tactical. I will rescind this award if it is ever discovered that you have participated in any ad showing lots of explosions.
45, very cool. You seen the JSP Bladerigger (http://www.bladerigger.com/scpsticks.html) stuff? Lots of Ti. Not cheap, though...
John
Skunkabilly
January 4, 2004, 09:32 PM
John, the rifle case is Blackhawk. I called Eagle and heckled them to make a double-rifle case but they wouldn't--I needed one case to carry two guns and BHI were the only folks that made it. They gave it to me in exchange for letting them take pictures of me for their ads. I'm not in that one, but that's me in the gas mask, NVGs and M4 in the Hydrastorm ads. Those are also my hands (with the Sig) in the Heckstorm glove ad, but I turned those down as I already had Oakley CF knuckled gloves.... :evil:
I like the Camelbak but the Buy American crowd my kick my butt since it's made in the Philippines.... :rolleyes:
JShirley
January 4, 2004, 09:48 PM
I've seen a lot of good stuff come out of the Philippines...:evil:
Jeff, you should arrange to meet me in person at your earliest convenience. You should be ashamed...:D
45R
January 4, 2004, 09:55 PM
A friend of mine has one of those Ti rods. He was wearing it IWB type holster. I was a little worried about asking him why he had the bulge :o
Skunkabilly
January 4, 2004, 09:58 PM
I've seen a lot of good stuff come out of the Philippines...
Me too, but none of them liked me. :(
45R
January 4, 2004, 10:35 PM
Oh I can also add a mobile Trunked Scanner to it also. :)
Schuey2002
January 4, 2004, 10:52 PM
Jeff, what AMK Kit is that? The 'Fundamentals' or the 'Comprehensive' Kit?
I take it that you bought it from Tadgear, right? :o
Skunkabilly
January 4, 2004, 11:55 PM
Schuey,
It's the Fundamentals kit. I bought it at REI (local camping/outdoorsey store). Added some antacids, motion sickness and anti-diarrhea medicine. Worst case scenario is I'm sitting by a girl (nervousness) on a plane (motion sickness) eating Thai food (....), I'll be prepared :D
Schuey2002
January 5, 2004, 12:00 AM
Thanks, Skunk. Now I'm gotta go order one for my SHTF bag.
Schuey, the Fundamentals is a good kit--it has more than I know to do with (mainly because I cancelled a first aid course to take a knifefighting course :D )
If you get one, don't forget to inventory and restock the thing every 3 months or so. Took me about an hour to do mine yesterday. I forgot about some of the items I borrowed from it.
45R, cell phone? I carry my cell phone, not leave it in my SHTF pack :p
Now I guess I oughta go get a Camelbak to put all this stuff that I'm buying in.. It looks like its Camelbak BFM/ or Motherlode time!! :D
SapperLeader
January 5, 2004, 09:32 AM
Skunk, have you actually tried eating one of the heater meals yet? My national guard unit gets them on occasion, and we are always dissapointed. When we eat one, its usually one heater meal, 2 pieces of bread, and a package of four oreo cookies. We always are starving after eating the heater meals. Im not sure how it would be if you could eat two, since the army wont let us do that :).
45R
January 5, 2004, 11:57 AM
Skunk-
If you have an old cell phone you can periodically charge the battery in it and leave it in your BOB bag. The battery will last for a long long time and you maybe able to use it in CA to try and call 911 if say your primary cell runs out of batteries or the anaolog mode eats up your cell battery too fast.
I have an old Nokia that has been sitting around for over a year now and the battery still works. :)
45R
Sportcat
January 5, 2004, 02:25 PM
Skunk,
Nice pictures. I love my CRV too! I'm gonna take out my car BOB tonight and catalog the contents for everyone. Any suggestions for additions/ removals will be appreciated.
Skunkabilly
January 5, 2004, 05:33 PM
Sapperleader
>> Skunk, have you actually tried eating one of the heater meals yet? My national guard unit gets them on occasion, and we are always dissapointed. <<
Yes, I have at gun school...I brought some urban camo Oreos and an orange. I may get some snack sets of Oreos and maybe some apple sauce or Hunt's pudding and stow them with them. It kept me satisfied...If you see me in person you'll see I can run on little food :)
45R
>> If you have an old cell phone you can periodically charge the battery in it and leave it in your BOB bag. <<
45R, is it true they can make 911 calls even if they don't have service? :confused:
Sportkitty,
>> Nice pictures. I love my CRV too! I'm gonna take out my car BOB tonight and catalog the contents for everyone. Any suggestions for additions/ removals will be appreciated. <<
When you take pics, split it up by food, water, shelter, etc...it will make looking at the contents more digestable to other viewers. It's like organizing your room...there may be a method to the madness, but to other observers, it may just look like a mess... Divvying it up will help us help you. :)
45R
January 5, 2004, 06:00 PM
Skunk-
They will call 911 even if they have no service provider. :)
45R
SapperLeader
January 6, 2004, 09:59 AM
Skunk: I have noticed your a little...less large than myself. I just wanted to make sure you had done some sort of serious activity and then ate a heater meal. I might give them another try, but bring some more side stuff(applesause, pudding, etc.) Taste wise I think they kick mre's little butts. I was just always hungry afterwards ...
Skunkabilly
January 6, 2004, 11:16 AM
They make some complete meals that run $2 more that come with a few sides (crackers or cookies and pudding, froot or applesauce) along w/ a bottle of water...but they seem like a lot of bulk to me since I already have water, and I can imagine they probably won't be packed down that tight...considering them though.
SapperLeader
January 8, 2004, 09:04 AM
Skunk: . We did get some of those complete heater meals + sides last january, and until you mentioned them, Id totally forgot about them. THe box is a lot bigger than the standard heater meal, and the quanity of food is provided that you can actually eat a meal, and slip some snacks into a pocket for later. They even come with some pretty decent spice packets for the entree. The water bottle is what adds most of the space, so you if you dont mind repacking them, just take out the bottle of water, and you should be able to condense them down a lot. Do you have a online source you order your heatermeals from, or a local brick and mortar?
Skunkabilly
January 8, 2004, 11:34 AM
Sapperleader, I ordered them di-reck. I got the meal-only variety pack. The complete meals only come in bulk packs of 10 of one meal only.
They said they could repack them for a fee to have variety but as I thought about it, I may as well just get 10 of a meal I like. I eat 10 of the same things in a row even WTSIHTF (when the caca isn't hitting the fan). I had curry straight for a week and a half once.
brownie0486
January 8, 2004, 12:00 PM
Skunk:
Curry, one of my favorites. :cool:
My wife makes a chicken curry from scratch with curry direct from India. It'll fix what ails ya and then some. Good on cold nights for dinner.
Some like it hot;)
Brownie
Sportcat
January 8, 2004, 12:03 PM
I cataloged my BFM contents last night, I hope to catalog my Blowfish (car bag) tonight.
Thankfully I did this, some of the medicine I carried in the BFM had expired. Mainly it was Advil that was only a month out of date, but I figure go ahead and get it replaced.
Skunkabilly
January 8, 2004, 12:29 PM
Curry, one of my favorites.
Brownie, why do you think I'm SKUNKabilly? :D
Sportcat, yeah it's embarassing huh. I did that last time I checked my pack, when we turned our clocks back in Oct. (good way to remember when to inventory)
Yo' Skunk, how about a list of the various contents? :)
(I'm still waiting to see the contents of Sportcat's BFM, ;) )
Sportcat
January 11, 2004, 08:37 PM
Schuey,
My bad. I actually did an inventory, but the list is at work. I'll post tomorrow.
-Sport
Skunkabilly
January 11, 2004, 09:12 PM
Schuey, what you see is what I got.
Essentials:
First aid kit (see www.adventuremedicalkits.com under mountain series then fundamentals for inventory)
paracord
12 CR123 batteries
duct tape
snakebite
knife
am/fm radio
Shelter:
Complete change of clothes (underwear, t-shirt, wool tights, wool tip t shirt, Coolmax shirt, 5.11 pants, wool gloves, wool socks, wool beanie, boonie hat and waterproof shell) all stored under driver side seat since it's too bulky to store in the bag, and I always borrow from it when it's cold out
Wiggy's 0 degree bag
Matches
Water & food:
3 liters of packaged water reinforced by cardboard box
Purification tablets
Water filter
Survival rations
That's about it.... the rest of the stuff (Surefire, leatherman, Nalgene, etc.) is on my person.
Schuey2002
January 11, 2004, 11:37 PM
Skunk, the reason that I asked is, because of the crappy video card in my computer all I see is black pixels (with a smattering of lightly colored objects).. :o
Dr.Rob
January 12, 2004, 12:15 AM
With out dry socks and TP, it may well be a miserable time. Never under estimate the value of dry socks.
Sportcat
January 12, 2004, 05:13 PM
Schuey,
Here are the contents of my home BOB in my BFM...
Low profile pocket:
2 emergency ponchos
2 space blankets
2 4-count disposable hand warmers
Outside pocket:
whistle
swiss army knife
Gerber 450 knife
5 green 12-hour glow sticks
12 AA batteries
Main pocket:
1 roll of TP
6 Mayday 2,400 calorie emergency rations
1 Coghlans emergency tube tent/ ground cover
6 30 gallon trash bags
1 emergency candle
2 disposable lighters
2 40-counts boxes of weatherproff matches
1 Esbitt stove
18 individually wrapped Trioxant tablets in zip-lock bag
Thanks, Skunk and Sportcat, for the lists (of the contents of your B.O.B.'s).. They'll come in handy when I go to fill up my new bug out bag. Obtw, I bought a brandnew black, Camelbak Motherlode on Ebay for $67.00..
(Hmmm. Now I need a Marmot or Western Mountaineering bag to keep me warm 'n toasty at night.. Time to do some more smurfin'. ;) )
zahc
January 17, 2004, 08:41 PM
I thought it was gonna be a picture of bombs over baghdad.
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