Buying guns at a gun buyback


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tuckerdog1
February 22, 2011, 07:02 PM
It troubles me to say Austin is having a 'groceries for guns' buyback this weekend. This kinda thing shouldn't happen in Texas. But it's Austin. Berkeley with cowboy hats. Guess they did this back in June & brought in 350 firearms ( per the article I read )

Two firearms max can be turned in. $100 for handguns & rifles, $200 for assault rifles. Gun dealers not elegible for turn in ( like that would happen ):confused:

Anyway, you know what I ( and probably many others ) are thinking. Go down there with a sack full of cash & see what bargins we might find.

But wondering what the APD might have up their sleeves to deter my working a deal or two.

Has anybody gone to one of these buybacks and tried to cut a deal? Did the authorities leave you alone? If not, what did they do to mess things up? If anybody was actually able to get a good deal, would you care to share?

Thanks,
Tuckerdog1

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danprkr
February 22, 2011, 07:08 PM
I don't know, but I'd be happy to come im me with details please. I live in the area.

jon_in_wv
February 22, 2011, 07:10 PM
I would be very leary of trying to purchase one of those weapons. Chances are they are stolen, altered, illegal, etc....or they wouldn't be taking amnesty and bottom dollar on the sale of it.

Pronghorn
February 22, 2011, 07:11 PM
I remember several people on this forum talking about the same exact thing. The problem is, most police officers are uninformed of the laws and overly arrogant. When they see you buying guns in a COMPLETELY LEGAL way, they see an "illegal unregistered sale" and will try and give you grief. I would just stay away, i wouldn't want any of those guns anywheys. These gun by backs are the perfect way for criminals to dispose of stolen and "hot" guns. I wouldn't want to take the risk. The last thing I need is a cop with an attitude catching me legally buying a stolen gun in a cash transfer.

average_shooter
February 22, 2011, 07:20 PM
I would be very leary of trying to purchase one of those weapons. Chances are they are stolen, altered, illegal, etc....or they wouldn't be taking amnesty and bottom dollar on the sale of it.

These gun by backs are the perfect way for criminals to dispose of stolen and "hot" guns. I wouldn't want to take the risk. The last thing I need is a cop with an attitude catching me legally buying a stolen gun in a cash transfer.

The vast majority of pictures I've seen from these "buy backs" contain little old grandmas selling off dear departed granddad's beautiful, old shotgun. Or Granddad selling off his old WW2 1911 bring-back so the grandkids don't play with it. They need groceries more than they need the gun.

These things never actually seem to result in too many "illegal" weapons showing up. I think it's much easier to dispose of a "hot" gun by wiping it and throwing it into a random dumpster or storm drain than actually taking into a crowd of police officers.

Jaybird78
February 22, 2011, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43xxz5COUE


Check out the above link. Some of our finest in blue. :rolleyes:



I say do it, maybe you will find a gem.....then get arrested and can sue the local government for some money. :D

Hanzo581
February 22, 2011, 07:37 PM
While legal, you will absolutely be hassled by the police. If you can somehow catch them before they make their way onto whatever property is hosting the event you may be ok, but will probably still be pestered.

XxWINxX94
February 22, 2011, 07:44 PM
That would be a great idea, but my concern would be the legality of some of those guns. You could probably offer a guy $150 for a handgun or rifle and really make $ on it if you try to re-sell it, but again if the ATF catches you with an illegal gun you better find a lawyer.

average_shooter
February 22, 2011, 07:51 PM
Full video from post #6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gMHv-tCgCI&NR=1

Hanzo581
February 22, 2011, 07:52 PM
How would that work? What if I buy a gun from a private sell I meet and the gun happens to be stolen, don't you have to knowingly receive stolen goods for it to be a crime, I mean I know the gun would be confiscated but you'd only be out $50-$100, and I certainly wouldn't resell something I bought at a buy back.

SharpsDressedMan
February 22, 2011, 08:02 PM
Carry a sign with your phone number, and the promise of better money. Hard to argue (or arrest) for that. Set the deals up later, without the chaperones.

leadcounsel
February 22, 2011, 08:22 PM
First, provided that FTF sales are legal, I'd take some cash and go down there and hang out and see what people bring up. I might even bring a sign with me that says, "I give X $ for X guns." I would just hang out and watch and see what goes on and what people bring in. Keep the sign hidden until you see something just really worth the effort to negotiate (the fabled M1 Garand, or an M4, a 1911, or a Browning High Power, or an AK47...).

Make 100% sure that you follow all FTF laws to the letter, including checking the persons' license for age, residency, etc. And for good measure I would ask all the right questions like, "are you the lawful owner of this gun," and questions like that.

I would print a copy of the laws for FTF private sales and take it with me in case you get harrassed. You might also bring a friend and at least 1 camcorder in the event the police attempt to drive you off a public street. Provided you follow the law, you should be GTG.

nosmr2
February 22, 2011, 08:45 PM
If you do head down please keep us posted.

XM855
February 22, 2011, 09:06 PM
Sounds like a great investment to me. If you don't go, tell us where and when it is! I live in Austin!

Bubbles
February 22, 2011, 09:28 PM
Gun dealers not elegible for turn in ( like that would happen)
How would they know who is and isn't a dealer? And I could easily see it happening - some guns simply aren't worth $100.

Carl N. Brown
February 22, 2011, 09:49 PM
I recall reading the story of a widow who turned in her late husband's Winchester 1897 shotgun at a gun buy-back because she had no use for it. A gun collector, hunter or cowboy action sports shooter would have given 400.00 to 700.00 for that gun.

If the goal is to get unwanted guns "off the streets", they should send the guns thru a NCIC check for hot or stolen guns, then to a gun shop to get the owner a good value and the gun a good home.

If the goal is to randomly select the one of 10,000 guns that might be used in a murder, they should rethink costs v benefits of other policies.

hammerklavier
February 22, 2011, 10:11 PM
If the cops really want to mess with you, they could take your cash under the authority of the Clinton drug laws and never give it back.

XxWINxX94
February 23, 2011, 09:39 AM
How would that work? What if I buy a gun from a private sell I meet and the gun happens to be stolen, don't you have to knowingly receive stolen goods for it to be a crime, I mean I know the gun would be confiscated but you'd only be out $50-$100, and I certainly wouldn't resell something I bought at a buy back.


For me & all the folks in Illinois, if the guy who is giving his gun to the buyback does not have a FOID card, the sale would be illegal. It wouldn't do us much good because I guarentee that most people participating in the buy back don't have FOID cards and a lot of the guns are illegal.

tuckerdog1
February 23, 2011, 09:44 AM
For those in the Austin area, here is a link to the article I read. It has location, date & time info.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/APD-brings-back-Guns-for-Groceries-buyback-program-116601818.html

Make 100% sure that you follow all FTF laws to the letter, including checking the persons' license for age, residency, etc. And for good measure I would ask all the right questions like, "are you the lawful owner of this gun," and questions like that.


Leadcouncel, excellent advice. I wouldn't put it past the APD to try and entrap potential buyers by having someone not legal in some way attempt to sell a firearm.

Tuckerdog1

MisterMike
February 23, 2011, 10:03 AM
Carry a sign with your phone number, and the promise of better money. Hard to argue (or arrest) for that. Set the deals up later, without the chaperones.

I'm all for this approach, and/or printing up a bunch of flyers and giving them out to those contemplating the sale. That way, you'd have more control over what you're getting, with a better opportunity to get the seller's contact info, check the S/N, etc. Warranted or not, you're likely to be harassed if you interfere with the city's grand scheme to end violence.

WNTFW
February 23, 2011, 10:10 AM
I know one guy that personally bought two guns in the mannner.

Someone showed up at his place of work and asked if the gun buy back was here & today. He said no he didn't know anything. Then, "Wait, what do you have?". He got 2 shotguns.

Going to the location could end up in drama with the police. Maybe or Maybe not. I'd say more likely to be a story involved.

Panzercat
February 23, 2011, 10:36 AM
$100/200? ...Seriously, that's robbery.

You would think that a program as auteristic as "guns for groceries" would value items a bit more... Fairly? I mean, since we're obviously helping those so destitude that they need to sell their firearms off just to make ends meet, wouldn't we all want to give them as much money as possibly? Even a used hi-point will sell for more than that minumum. :rolleyes:

What a crock.

earlthegoat2
February 23, 2011, 10:53 AM
I would think if a PO asked you to leave you would be well advised to actually leave.

You are looking for trouble RIGHT OR WRONG by doing this. It is kind of like the open carry issue. Sure its legal but you WILL be hassled.

But, like open carry, I do see it as a valuable awareness tool for the community.

Spec ops Grunt
February 23, 2011, 11:07 AM
That video helped me start my day with rage.

Spec ops Grunt
February 23, 2011, 11:16 AM
You know, considering it's Texas and this is paid for with tax dollars, how hard would it be to contact the TSRA and protest?

LawScholar
February 23, 2011, 11:57 AM
The problem is, most police officers are uninformed of the laws and overly arrogant.

As a family member of many pro-gun police officers, I strenuously object to that statement. Bad experieinces with a handful of police do not entitle a person to generalize the majority of LEOs as "uninformed" and "arrogant"

earlthegoat2
February 23, 2011, 12:16 PM
Object all you want but generally speaking most police are either uninformed or act the part. This is coming from someone who has 2 siblings and three other family members as police officers. I know more about guns, laws, and shooting then all of them combined.

Yes, arrogant is not the correct word to use. That implies something else entirely unrelated to knowledge of the law.

LawScholar
February 23, 2011, 12:23 PM
EDIT: I had a large argument written and submitted, but I'm bowing out of this one now. My father, grandfather, brother, uncle, and close friend are all dedicated, well-educated, pro-gun police officers and I do not believe I will be able to maintain emotional objectivity or keep things The High Road if this goes any further. Also, I don't want to divert from the OP's thread about the legality of buyback purchases.

DammitBoy
February 23, 2011, 12:39 PM
Over 50% of the officers in that video were uninformed and arrogant. In fact they were abusive without warrant.

Not hard to find videos of that kind of behavior all day long.

Sgt.Murtaugh
February 23, 2011, 12:49 PM
even if you were to go down there and challenge the menacing LEO's who try and stop your purchase, what recourse would you have against those LEO's even if you were in the right?

None. The APD (or any PD for that matter) is not gonna do a damn thing about it if you file complaint against the cops for stopping a perfectly legal handgun purchase.

jon_in_wv
February 23, 2011, 12:54 PM
That video is just affirmation of why you DO NOT live in areas like Detroit, New York , Philadephlia, Baltimore, California, or other abusive police states.

danprkr
February 23, 2011, 02:11 PM
Heck, just go down with fliers and a blue book, and offer free appraisals. Might make them think twice before turning in a $1000 gun for a $100 bucks.

danprkr
February 23, 2011, 03:03 PM
Another thought though I'd bet the church hosting the event would be more than happy to ask the cops to escort you off the property under trespassing laws. With that in mind plan on setting up on either public property or adjacent. But I'm guessing APD will utilize trespassing to harass you. I wish I could be there, but I'm not going to be able to make it. Next time hopefully I'll find out in time to arrange my schedule accordingly.

Panzercat
February 23, 2011, 03:15 PM
Heck, just go down with fliers and a blue book, and offer free appraisals. Might make them think twice before turning in a $1000 gun for a $100 bucks.

HA! That's an awesome idea! Likewise, venues through which they can realistically sell their firearm, too. You aren't soliciting. You might even get some unsoliscited offers in the process. Love that.

BLACKHAWKNJ
February 23, 2011, 03:53 PM
Actually, someone should challenge the legality of these buybacks, it seems to me a lot of state and federal laws are being broken.

Shadow 7D
February 23, 2011, 04:07 PM
I would make a LARGE sign that says
"Please Don't let the Police ROB you
stop by for a FREE appraisal"

wildlifeclyde
February 23, 2011, 04:33 PM
I paid $35 for an old beat up single shot .22 a while back and I've been contemplating hauling it down to cash in. Last year, I thought about the same thing but I didn't think I could stand there watching guns worth more than 100 bucks be turned over to be destroyed. This year my economic situation has me thinking a little harder about it.

The local news here in Austin has reported in a "surprised manner" that none of the guns turned in at the last buy back program had a criminal background. I seriously doubt there are too many criminals looking to get $100 in groceries for something they could probably sell to a partner in crime for a lot more.

As for trying to buy some of these guns from individuals, I doubt I would want to pull that around the officers from this area. I was pulled over for having a headlight out not long ago, when I presented my CHL to the officer he got pretty wound up about it even after stating that I wasn't carrying at the time. He asked me at least three times (in a not so friendly aggressive tone) if I had a weapon in the car the first time with his hand on his sidearm. I was so caught off guard from even being pulled over that I didn't think about what had happened until after I was driving off, then it took me about a week to cool off. I was kinda glad we were in the wife's car, I don't know what he'd have done if we were in my truck and I'd have said I had several.

Spec ops Grunt
February 23, 2011, 04:42 PM
"Please Don't let the Police ROB you
stop by for a FREE appraisal"


I like this idea!

rr2241tx
February 23, 2011, 05:01 PM
This is going down in Austin, nothing of what you know of the law is of any use to you. Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo and his goon squad sent a known Mexican Illegal WITH a Texas Driver's License to buy a legal FTF gun and in spite of that and the fact that the stoolie admitted in discovery that the seller did everything right, there is an innocent man now convicted of a felony. None of the officers of APD nor BATFE who violated numerous laws in this case nor the illegal alien ever got so much as a slap on the hand.

APD will absolutely sweep the streets with both uniformed and undercover officers and if it was MY hide on the line, I would not trust anyone offering to sell me anything in the vicinity of the buyback. It is a real shame that some people are so ignorant and scared by disinformation spewed by the Libtards in Austin and some beautiful guns will be either destroyed or siphoned off by unscrupulous persons as a result but that is the situation in Austin today.

Being legal and right in Austin won't do you one iota of good if APD decides you are in their way. You HAVE been warned.

Danb1215
February 23, 2011, 05:06 PM
This appraisal idea is the best of both worlds. I'm not necessarily looking to buy anymore guns but it would be a fun/rewarding day helping the public not get ripped off by the department running the buyback, and informing people of other ways that they could legally sell the weapons probably for much more money.
As far as criminals showing up with stolen guns or guns used in a crime it doesn't make much sense in terms of criminal economics. There aren't any handguns made that would sell for less than $100 cash on the street, never mind that the buyback is paying in $100 of groceries. Hence these buybacks mainly appeal to the old widows or people that don't know anything about guns but just don't want one they inherited sitting around their houses.

Any thoughts on where we can find a wider listing of any such events? If I can find one within 100 miles I'll be there with a sign and at least one price reference book.

41
February 23, 2011, 05:25 PM
Make 100% sure that you follow all FTF laws to the letter, including checking the persons' license for age, residency, etc.

What would their age matter for a FTF buy, and if it is a long gun why would you need to know their residency?

Samsonite
February 23, 2011, 06:27 PM
What would their age matter for a FTF buy, and if it is a long gun why would you need to know their residency?
In Texas, you must be a resident of the State of Texas to purchase firearms. You must be 18 years of age to buy a rifle/shotgun and 21 years of age to buy a handgun. Same with ammunition.

nwilliams
February 23, 2011, 07:04 PM
I'm not sure I'd want to take possession of any guns being brought to a gun buy back. My guess is most of the guns are going to be junk, stolen or used in a crime or all three.

I like the sign idea. However I would only offer to buy guns from people if they were willing to sign a receipt with the serial number of the gun and copy of their drivers license. The last thing I'd want is to take possession of a stolen gun or one used in a crime, when I sell privately I'm very cautious of who I'm willing to sell to or buy from. I'd be especially cautious if I were buying a gun from someone at a gun buy back.

jumpdog789
February 23, 2011, 07:09 PM
I like this idea!
I agree. I have a friend that is an APD officer. I am going to ask him if he knows of any other way to possibly purchase any guns that are turned in.

Danb1215
February 23, 2011, 07:13 PM
I'm not sure I'd want to take possession of any guns being brought to a gun buy back. My guess is most of the guns are going to be junk, stolen or used in a crime or all three.

I would imagine that if the person bringing the gun is not a thug trying to get quick cash of some stolen property then they are probably anti-gun and of the mindset that they are doing society a favor by turning in a gun, a person like this is very unlikely to sell said gun to someone who just walks up and offers them cash for it. If a person has any respect for guns at all then they would take it to a gun shop and get rid of it or sell it privately, they would not take their gun to a buy back.
There have been several of these events where not a single one of the guns collected were stolen/used in a crime. As I posted previously these events draw people who have guns (usually from someone else) lying around the house and they have no use for them. You might be on to something in that many of the people that would show up at a buyback event would be hesitant to sell to someone on the street, as they assume its illegal. That's why I think the appraisal approach is the best idea; inform the public how they are being ripped off and provide business cards of local shops/collectors that might be willing to pay fair market value and not a $25 olive garden gift card for in many cases $500+ guns.

41
February 23, 2011, 07:50 PM
In Texas, you must be a resident of the State of Texas to purchase firearms. You must be 18 years of age to buy a rifle/shotgun and 21 years of age to buy a handgun. Same with ammunition.
Ok that's pretty similar to the laws here in Alabama for a FFL purchase, but we have much laxer laws for FTF purchases.

NMGonzo
February 23, 2011, 07:58 PM
What can I say, I love my State of New Mexico.

EddieNFL
February 23, 2011, 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Pronghorn
The problem is, most police officers are uninformed of the laws and overly arrogant.
As a family member of many pro-gun police officers, I strenuously object to that statement. Bad experieinces with a handful of police do not entitle a person to generalize the majority of LEOs as "uninformed" and "arrogant"

I know cops who strenuously agree with that statement.

Shadow 7D
February 24, 2011, 04:01 AM
Hey, Offering to read out of the blue book of gun values will get less flack than carrying a sign, and with a business card, a well cut, PROFESSIONAL demeanor, the LAW sitting on a clip board that has a COVER SHEET that says 'Texas Gun Statues'

I think you would get alot more flys to honey than
Jimbob and 'Ol Bill hang out on their pick up saying, 'I'll buy er, and pay you more too'

Oh and for the cops, an OBVIOUS camera helps too, and so does the not so obvious when they break the first.

ultradoc
February 24, 2011, 09:05 AM
Nice idea and I hope it goes well for you. Also the video was very imformative. Don't know if it would help to go to the owners of the property and ask them if you could do this. The video was at a church and if it was at my church I would say that I get first dibs.:neener:

danprkr
February 24, 2011, 10:23 AM
Along with the appraisals you might have a little form to write the appraisal on that has a list of the Local Gun Shops that buy, and of course your own name and phone number. Along with the laws on selling FTF in TX.

Just a thought. If someone is interested drop me a line, and I'll set up a form. All you'll have to do is print them out. And, I'll definitely be at the next one. I really hate that my schedule doesn't permit me to be at this one.

danprkr
February 24, 2011, 11:18 AM
BTW - Why do they call it a buy back program when the cops never owned the guns in the first place? :scrutiny:

Apuuli
February 24, 2011, 12:11 PM
BTW - Why do they call it a buy back program when the cops never owned the guns in the first place? :scrutiny:

That's an excellent point. Probably for the same reason people say "wetland reclamation" instead of "wetland destruction". It makes it sound more legitimate and morally correct.

Superlite27
February 24, 2011, 02:29 PM
Another vote here for taking a gun value book and offering free appraisals.

I'd simply take a table and a chair, put up a cardboard sign on the front of the table saying "GET MORE MONEY FOR YOUR GUNS", and have a gun value book and a list of local dealers and their addresses.

Video of any officer interactions would also probably be a big hit on YouTube. Especially questions regarding your intentions, which would easily be countered with questions regarding theirs.

I thought public servants were supposed to help the public. How is ripping off folks unaware of firearm values a public service?

Ask them on video if they hassle you.

tuckerdog1
February 26, 2011, 05:52 PM
Okay, almost blew this off, but decided I shouldn't have to be intimidated out of a lawful exchange. So I went. To try and make my presence "legit", I stopped at Wal-Mart and bought a toy pistol. They were accepting toys for turn in as well as real firearms. As it turned out, that was $6 I didn't need to spend. I'll be giving that to a neighbor's son.

The set up had the buy back at a church ( private property ). Was told once on the church property, I could not try to buy anyone's firearms. However, on the sidewalk that ran along the church property, the police had no problem with FTF buys. They ( police ) were very cordial to us. Zero harassment. In fact, when some vehicles pulled into the church driveway ( manned by a police officer ), he'd be giving the driver instructions, and we'd have our heads right next to theirs informing them of the better deal on the street. This caused some to make a U turn in the parking lot, and come back to the street and sell. Doing this got no grief from the police. I was pleasantly surprised.

I arrived 30 minutes after the thing started, and the church parking lot was already packed. The line to turn in firearms was almost around the building. This was partly due to them running out of the grocery gift cards ( this was not supposed to happen like it did the last time ). But they had more funds available & were off to get more of those cards.

Anyway, there were already about half a dozen other "buyers" along the sidewalk. Most had signs about CASH +10% over what the city was offering. And there was the added bonus of not standing in that line ( That got a lot of folks to pull over & deal ). It was also trying to rain. Standing in line in the wet also helped us.

I must say, almost all the guns I looked at were crap. A few were borderline, but not what I'd buy. There was one Taurus 83 revolver that was pretty nice. But another guy had 1st refusal, and he bought it. There was a small "group" that per the conversations on the sidewalk, were funded by some anonymous wealthy pro 2A guy in San Antonio. They would buy ANYTHING that functioned. The 'lead' guy had the trunk of his car STUFFED with guns. Supposedly, these guns were going to be given to poor folks that wanted. but could not afford guns. Pretty cool if all true. It made it nice to look at someone's POS ( in my opinion ), tell them it was not something I'd be interested in, but point that guy out to them, and he'd buy their POS. Everybody seemed to be driving away happy.

Did I get a deal there? Yes. I'd figured before I left home, I'd be offering double to make a deal ( city $100 gift card=me $200 cash ). But everybody had signs +10%. And that seemed to be enough to sway the sellers. So I went with the program & offered the $110 on an excellent Mossberg 500 with the 20" barrel & 8 shot tube. It's now in the safe:)

Tuckerdog1

DammitBoy
February 26, 2011, 06:22 PM
Outstanding tuckerdog!

danprkr
February 26, 2011, 09:44 PM
Very nice, and very happy you didn't get any grief from the cops.

Here again, sorry I had to miss this one, but I made a sale for myself that was nice anyway.

Blakenzy
February 26, 2011, 10:42 PM
I wonder how many people would show up if the "authorities" ever try to get people to sign away their 2nd Amendment Rights, whole sale, in exchange for something like a $500 check... probably enough to cause projectile vomiting :barf:.

"We call it the Rights for Safety buyback program, 'cause we can't have those obsolete Constitutional guarantees getting in the way of...of.....of the Children's safety!, yeah".

hogshead
February 26, 2011, 11:07 PM
Good job Tuckerdog1!

TennJed
February 27, 2011, 01:27 AM
so maybe all cops are not ignorant and hostile:rolleyes: even in liberal ole Austin:cool:

Shadow 7D
February 27, 2011, 03:29 AM
Did you see any cherrys walk to the smelter, or go home

CollinLeon
February 27, 2011, 04:47 AM
I have to wonder if someone could get the $100 for a homemade 12-gauge shotgun that was made from a piece of 3/4" and 1" steel pipes...

Something like this:

tuckerdog1
February 27, 2011, 08:20 AM
so maybe all cops are not ignorant and hostile even in liberal ole Austin

Probably the case most anywhere you go. People are people, some take jobs as cops.

Did you see any cherrys walk to the smelter, or go home

Couldn't see what was turned in. People were required to drive onto the church property. So guns turned in were not out of the cars for us to see. I was chatting it up with a few of the police, and asked if anything nice had been turned in. Only one of them was a gun guy, and he said nothing he saw was worth squat. One guy that stopped to sell did take his back home. It was a double barrel shotgun ( unknown make ). Had a plastic stock & some pretty visable rust at the muzzle. He was under the impression the city was giving $500. Once he learned the truth, he decided he'd just keep it.

Since making this post, I saw the morning news. Of course the buy back was a topic. In that report, they had a shot of a rifle that was turned in. Can't be 100% sure from the TV picture, but I'd swear it's an old Winchester model 55. The stock was scratched up, but that could be refinished. So at least one collectable going to the chopper.

There was one SUV I waved over, that as soon as I did, I saw it was a mistake. They had New York plates on the vehicle. If not a Texas resident, they could not do a legal FTF. When they rolled down the window, I said " You folks aren't from Texas are you?" That was of course a "No." But the lady asked what was going on at the church with all that police presence? I told her the city was having a gun buy back. At this point, she mistook me for someone involved in the buy back. Told me that was a wonderful idea and wished us good luck with the program:p

One thing that I did notice was peoples' complete lack of knowledge about the guns thay had. Being involved for 30+ years, I have a 'decent' understanding about firearms. So it caught me off guard that people were so uninformed about their guns. When most of these people pulled over to possibly sell, we'd ask what they had, and so many times they had no idea. Sometimes they'd know the caliber, but 80%-85% they'd have no idea who the maker was. So not even knowing who made it, forget about knowing what model it was.

Tuckerdog1

ultradoc
February 27, 2011, 09:46 AM
Awsome report Truckerdog. Thanks for keeping us posted. Glad the cops didn't hassel you and maybe next time you will find that jewel.

WNTFW
February 27, 2011, 03:26 PM
You guys showed up on a local gun forum. Link below has links to news articles.

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?p=689352#post689352

tuckerdog1
February 27, 2011, 05:48 PM
WNTFW,

Thanks for the link. While I was looking around the net to see if anybody at the event had scooped up any sweet deals I didn't know about, I saw it was also posted on a Pennsylvania forum.


http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/127630-apd-austin-activists-hold-neighboring-gun-buy-back-programs.html

I read a post on bayoushooter where the poster envisioned a rush on potential sellers and a bidding war for guns happening. This never happened. Everybody was very respectful of first to walk up to a seller had 1st refusal at the +10% price. Now I can't say if any sellers turned down the +10%, the person with 1st refusal decided they didn't want to pay any more than that, and then possibly more was offered by someone else. But these people were already about to turn their guns in for $100. So I don't see them saying "No." to $110.

It was a good freindly time, shared by a lot of like minded people. I'm sure to attend the next one.

Tuckerdog1

HankB
February 27, 2011, 05:57 PM
On the news I heard that "a group" was offering 10% over the "buyback" value and paying in cash, not gift cards. They supposedly bought about 25 guns.

cane
February 27, 2011, 06:09 PM
When I'm near one of these "buy backs", I drop off a couple of non-functioning old break top revolvers. Maybe a rusty "acme/hercules/farmers friend" single barrel shotgun. Most of them don't work and aren't worth repairing.

longdayjake
February 27, 2011, 06:13 PM
What ever happened to the "no questions asked" at these gun buybacks? The cops in that video were sure asking a lot of questions.

DammitBoy
February 27, 2011, 06:57 PM
I can't believe someone turned in a $900+ bushmaster AR pistol for $200 bucks!

Wedge
February 27, 2011, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the report tuckerdog1. I was wondering how it was going to go down and if there were any real gems being given away. Sounds like you got a decent deal and from the vids it didn't look like anyone was really getting rid of anything of any real value.

cassandrasdaddy
February 28, 2011, 03:55 PM
i hope this


This is going down in Austin, nothing of what you know of the law is of any use to you. Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo and his goon squad sent a known Mexican Illegal WITH a Texas Driver's License to buy a legal FTF gun and in spite of that and the fact that the stoolie admitted in discovery that the seller did everything right, there is an innocent man now convicted of a felony. None of the officers of APD nor BATFE who violated numerous laws in this case nor the illegal alien ever got so much as a slap on the hand.


is not in reference to C B Copeland? if it was you are severely factually challenged and a search will turn up members here who were witnesses to what happened , in real life not some angry blog

cassandrasdaddy
February 28, 2011, 04:02 PM
https://www.tsra.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=256:cb-copeland-casualty-of-the-austin-gun-show-chaos&catid=55:tripp-talk&Itemid=113

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=543399&highlight=copeland

cassandrasdaddy
February 28, 2011, 04:13 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/ATFReportPaulCopelandCase.pdf

CollinLeon
February 28, 2011, 04:14 PM
Austin is where we keep all the flaming liberals in Texas... But then again, a Texas liberal is probably about the same as a California conservative...

geekWithA.45
February 28, 2011, 04:24 PM
@Tuckerdog: got pix? :)

rajb123
February 28, 2011, 05:59 PM
They have one of these programs ongoing 24/7 in Westchester county NY but there is no compesnation offered. Apparently, the guns are NOT resold but melted down.

velojym
February 28, 2011, 06:42 PM
If the goal is to randomly select the one of 10,000 guns that might be used in a murder, they should rethink costs v benefits of other policies.

"What? It ain't like we *earned* the money or anything!"

(In other words, SOP is "Spend all you want, we'll steal more!")

velojym
February 28, 2011, 06:43 PM
That's an excellent point. Probably for the same reason people say "wetland reclamation" instead of "wetland destruction". It makes it sound more legitimate and morally correct.

....or using the term "Giving Back" any time you're expected to make a sacrifice for the Collective.

tuckerdog1
March 1, 2011, 07:21 AM
@Tuckerdog: got pix

If you mean of the 'event', you can google AUSTIN GUN BUY BACK. It will give several links. Some have video. Check the date. There was another one of these back in June. That's old news.

If you mean pic of the shotgun I scored, it's just a plain Mossberg 500A. I did give it a closer look today. I don't think it's ever been fired:D

Tuckerdog1

TXSurf
March 1, 2011, 03:00 PM
http://deadlinelive.info/2011/02/26/first-ever-austinites-outbid-police-in-gun-buyback-counter-program/

Kingofthehill
March 1, 2011, 09:17 PM
wow, great stuff!...

I would have donated if i knew about it... or at least gone to help out and be another body on the sidewalk.

great stuff!

10mm Mike
March 2, 2011, 12:39 AM
That video helped me start my day with rage.

I know that wasn't meant to be funny, but I was laughing at that comment right up until I saw the video of that cop who could benefit from a thorough attitude adjustment.

Question about the Austin buy-back: If it was on church property, what authority does the Austin PD have to prevent you from trying to buy the guns in the church parking lot? Even if the church agreed to pull the trespassing card on people that did that, as long as you complied isn't the most they can lawfully do is to make you leave?

tuckerdog1
March 2, 2011, 09:25 AM
Question about the Austin buy-back: If it was on church property, what authority does the Austin PD have to prevent you from trying to buy the guns in the church parking lot? Even if the church agreed to pull the trespassing card on people that did that, as long as you complied isn't the most they can lawfully do is to make you leave?

I'm pretty sure the church pastor had already made that stipulation. When he ( the pastor ) pulled into the church driveway, I stuck my head in his window ( not knowing he was the pastor ), and offered to give him more for his guns than the city. That was met with chuckles from both him and the cop that was manning the driveway. I also hit on a couple SUVs that were driven by reps from the crime commission. They didn't want to sell me any guns either:D

Tuckerdog1

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