Advice Needed - XDm 40 compact or Glock Gen 4 23?


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tprice
February 26, 2011, 11:16 PM
Here's another "choose" thread :)

I'm trading in my two "larger carry" pieces - a SIG P229 in 40 and a Ruger SR9C. I have a P226 in 40 and just like it better for home defense. My other 9mm is a HK USP9 but I don't think the 2000SK is worth as much as it retails for.

So the two guns I'm thinking of are a Glock Gen4 23 and an XDm 3.8" compact in 40. I like the "convertible" idea of the XDm (can "shorten" the grip for a subcompact basically) and it's grip safety, but the Glock has more readily available gear (mags, etc).

Or the heck with both of them and get the M&P compact in 40?

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GuysModel94
February 26, 2011, 11:37 PM
For carry i would prefer the XD, the grip safety, for holstering or drawing the weapon is the reason why.

TheOhioan
February 26, 2011, 11:54 PM
I had Glock 19, traded for XDm Compact 9mm (so the exact same guns you are asking about in a smaller caliber). Try shooting them both, but I am in love with the ergonomics of the XD pistols. Traded my Glock away and haven't looked back (yet anyways). I have shot around 600-700 through my XDm and minus a hiccup (FTE) in the first 100 rounds due to forgetting to lubricate the gun after cleaning, the gun has been stellar.

CZ57
February 27, 2011, 12:28 AM
XDm .40 Compact. More versatility and better chamber support of the round.;)

AZ Five seveN
February 27, 2011, 03:03 AM
M&P! I love my compact M&P.

RancidSumo
February 27, 2011, 03:12 AM
I would buy the M&P. I like the Glock but the M&P was designed around the .40 and handles the caliber very well. The XD isn't even in the same league as the other two.

AndrewST
February 27, 2011, 02:36 PM
He is talking about an XDm not just an XD, there are a couple of differences between the two. As to the OP I would say shoot them both and decide what YOU like. I personally love the XDm, it shoots amazing and is very comfortable in the hand.

S&WKING
February 27, 2011, 02:48 PM
im in the same boat and im really likeing the XDm 40 i am going to be 21 in june and want to get familiar w/ a gun befor i go to my cc class. ive never been a fan of glock no paticular reason. i think im going to get a XDm so when i get 1 i will let you know how i like it.

ForumSurfer
February 27, 2011, 03:01 PM
I recently went through the same ordeal. Shoot all 3 and a preference should emerge. You really can't go wrong.

I'm of the minority that chose the glock. I still find myself wanting the m&p, though. The XDm or XD are great and I shoot well with them, I just went the other route. No particular reason. I'm a 1911 guy and I like the grip safety but I feel fine without it, also.

RancidSumo
February 27, 2011, 03:20 PM
He is talking about an XDm not just an XD, there are a couple of differences between the two. As to the OP I would say shoot them both and decide what YOU like. I personally love the XDm, it shoots amazing and is very comfortable in the hand

That doesn't matter. What matters is that it still has that damn grip safety, the weak pin in the top of the slide, and should be in a lower price bracket among other things.

ForumSurfer
February 27, 2011, 03:52 PM
What matters is that it still has that damn grip safety

That's a matter of preference. I've shot one several times and ran drills with it. As long as the handgun was in my hand, the grip safety wasn't an issue and the gun fired.

the weak pin in the top of the slide,

Could be true but I wouldn't know. I never ran one until it broke.

and should be in a lower price bracket among other things.

Yes it should. I saw no features on the xdm to justify it's higher price bracket over the xd. It just didn't feel that much better. When I was in the market, I ruled the xdm out unless I was purchasing a used one at a deal.

Again, I prefer a glock...but I see nothing wrong with the XD based on my experiences. I feel it is more subjective preference than anything else. The average person will likely never wear out an XD, m&p or a glock.

steveo77
February 27, 2011, 09:27 PM
XD for three reasons, grip angle,metal body mags,grip safety

CJS06
February 27, 2011, 09:30 PM
Take a look at the M&P. Both the XD and Glock are good, just pick the one the fits you the best.

JQP
February 28, 2011, 12:48 AM
Glock 23 all the way.

I have owned both, and sold off the Springfield, as I personally experienced way too many FTE with it.

YMMV.

p.s. - Whoever said that the magazines on the Springfield are better because they're all metal, I take issue with that statement. In fact, I'd argue that few, if any, factory magazines are as well thought out or built than Glock factory magazines. Polymer encasing stainless steel, with great tension and feeding reliability, nearly impervious to rust and that can suffer lots of abuse without any complaint? What's not to love?

ForumSurfer
February 28, 2011, 12:58 AM
p.s. - Whoever said that the magazines on the Springfield are better because they're all metal, I take issue with that statement. In fact, I'd argue that few, if any, factory magazines are as well thought out or built than Glock factory magazines. Polymer encasing stainless steel, with great tension and feeding reliability, nearly impervious to rust and that can suffer lots of abuse without any complaint? What's not to love?

I'd agree. Those feed lips aren't going to bend. They are a little tricky to take apart, but only the first time. I have9 factory g19 mags and I really, really use them. Ran 500 rounds through them earlier. While running drills I dropped them on a concrete pad, dropped them in a freshly plowed field, stepped on them inadvertently while moving and slammed them home during reloads hard enough to make the slide close automatically (not hard at all on 19's). They were filled with dirt and all sorts of crud. While out shooting I simply shook the dirt out as best I could and reloaded them. Didn't bother stripping the mags till I got home.

My point is that if these mags can take this kind of use (not abuse, use)...then they are good enough.

azranger1
February 28, 2011, 01:02 AM
Both of your choices are good, reliable guns. I like (and have)the XDm for the grip angle, better trigger, match barrel. YMMV. Test fire them both if possible, then decide.

gamestalker
February 28, 2011, 01:08 AM
One of my Son's just bought the XDM, not the compact. After shooting it, I would have to say it's probably the best handling auto I've ever shot. I love the grip safety, and accuracy is diffinitely competitive with anything else out there. Between my Son and I, we put 4 of boxes of factory federal JHPs, and a couple boxes of high velocity hand loaded JHPs through it, at least 300 rounds without cleaning it. It delivered 100% reliability, and accuracy didn't change. My vote is for the XD.

MartyGrant
February 28, 2011, 02:11 AM
I'll take the XD Subcompact over the XDm Compact but that's really splitting hairs.

JCOOL
February 28, 2011, 05:57 AM
Both weapons are accurate and reliable. I am issued the glock for department/ on-duty carry, but I prefer the XDm compact for off-duty/ concealed carry. Personally, I dont like the block like grip and grip angle of the glock. The ergonomics of the XDm are far more superior. However, I suggest you test fire both before you buy anything.

Mudinyeri
February 28, 2011, 05:36 PM
May I ask why you're getting rid of your two "full-size" pistols and looking at "smaller" pistols?

If you're thinking about carrying concealed, consider the following:
1. Are you reducing weight when fully loaded?
2. Are you reducing width?
3. Are you reducing grip length?

Based on my experience, those are the three primary reason people switch to polymer "compact" pistols.

I own both Glocks and XD's, including an XDm, so I won't even dip my toe in the Glock vs. XD debate. My main concern would be that you not get rid of two guns that you shoot well only to purchase a gun that you may not like as much.

pistolpacker
February 28, 2011, 09:18 PM
I have both the XDM and M&P compacts, and I have to say I absolutley love both of them. You cant go wrong with either, or the Glock for that matter. It's a cliche but everyones right if theres anyway you could shoot all three side-by-side, or at very least hold and handle all three that would ensure you make the best choice possible.
With that said, when comparing the XDMc vs. M&Pc both pistols have proved very accurate and extremely reliable. I have put just over 2,000rds through my XDMc and about 1,000 through the M&P without a single problem of any kind, I also own a full-sized XDM .40 thats digested almost 10,000rds without any problems.
I've carried both as my EDC gun and after switching back and forth between the two my XDMc is now regulated to car gun. My reason for this decision was simply the thinner,smaller and lighter M&Pc was easier to conceal and more pleasant and convenient to pack around all day.
As far as my favorite of the two, it all depends on what day you ask me;)

P.S. For those of you keeping track, thats about 12,000rds through my two XDMs without a single problem or malfuction of any kind. And dont worry about a "so-called" weak pin, there tough as nails and my full-sized has endured alot of abuse over the years and is no worse for wear.

Good Luck

2WheelsGood
February 28, 2011, 09:29 PM
XDM.

tprice
February 28, 2011, 11:49 PM
Thanks for all the replies. To clarify, both the P229 and the SR9c are new guns to me, only put a few hundred rounds through each. I'm needing a larger gun to carry during winter - I carry a snub 340M&P during the summer. I'm a fan of the 40 which has made me rethink the 9mm SR9.

As for what I shoot best, I have both a full size HK USP9 and a SIG P226 in 40 which are accurate (the later is my HD gun, the former my range gun).

Around here, most LEO's are now carrying the M&P in 40 (Atlanta PD, Dekalb Co PD) and that's got me thinking about the M&P. I have held one and like the ergos. I owned a Glock 22 and just don't like the grip that much, so the Gen 4 piques my interest. And I used to own an XDSC 9mm which I liked a lot, but traded for a P250 (one of my not-so-bright days).

AZ Five seveN
March 1, 2011, 12:00 AM
Refer to this thread. (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887) It's probably the best info available on duty / defense rounds and handguns.

SIGLBER
March 1, 2011, 11:41 AM
I have both and like both. The only way to choose one over the other is to feel and shoot both. Lots of folks prefer the feel of the grip and trigger on the XD series. The GEN 4's are better in the grip than the older Glocks though. And yes the Glock has a ton of aftermarket parts the XD doesn't. And the Glock design is simpler. But both are reliable, compact, and accurate. You just have to decide which is best for you. I can and do alternate carry between them.

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