What do you guys think about this?


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Unknown777
February 27, 2011, 07:53 PM
At school about 4 days ago, we were reading the book "Of Mice and Men." Note I am in the 8th grade. A sentence was read, something along the lines of "I'm going to get my rifle." And a girl in my class raised her hand and asked "What's a rifle?" I thought most people knew by age 13/14. Your thoughts?

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Liberty1776
February 27, 2011, 08:30 PM
just...utterly sad. I dare say when that book was written, such a question would have been inconceivable...:banghead:

firemanstrickland
February 27, 2011, 08:38 PM
What was said after she asked what a rifle was?

danprkr
February 27, 2011, 08:42 PM
I also am curious as to what was said to the question, "What's a rifle?"

And by whom it was said.

TexasKid
February 27, 2011, 08:46 PM
Im also interested.

firemanstrickland
February 27, 2011, 08:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I've got to admit at first i was kinda...well...:fire: Good one.

cambeul41
February 27, 2011, 08:56 PM
How was her query responded to?

kayak-man
February 27, 2011, 09:02 PM
I remember when I was maybe 14, I had grown up with guns, mostly rifles, and I was talking to a new kid in school who had moved thier from alaska. One of his choirs was to shoot the coyotes with a .22.

I told my dad about it, and he said the kid was probably using a .22 handgun. And thats the first time it ever occured to me that .22 did not mean the same thing as rifle :D

Its possible the parents aren't anti, just indifferent, and don't really know the differance between rifle/shotgun/pistol/revolver/BPrevolver and consider them all guns.

To the OP - I know this is off topic, and you didn't mention it, but I couldn't, and still can't, stand Stienbeck, too depressing. Just so you know, in about 3 or 4 years, the books you have to read get a LOT better.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson

GCBurner
February 27, 2011, 09:56 PM
Not too unususal. I doubt if any kid that age has seen a typewriter, a record player, or even a Sony Cassette Walkman or black & white TV set.

Gordon_Freeman
February 27, 2011, 11:16 PM
This is hard to believe. Even if her family are anti gun, wouldn't she know from movies and television?

Carter
February 27, 2011, 11:21 PM
Most girls I went to high school with didn't know jack about guns, heck most boys didn't either. Its pretty obviously she doesn't have firearms as part of her life. However, it is odd she didn't even know what the basic concept of a rifle was.

But, if you've never been around guns, never been around someone who likes guns, etc etc then I doubt you'd know much about them.

Could be she is just extremely sheltered as well.

doc2rn
February 27, 2011, 11:23 PM
It's a fair question if she is from an anti house and brought up on soap opperas.

Hatterasguy
February 27, 2011, 11:26 PM
14 is pretty young, they have a lot of life to live and learn from.

dawico
February 27, 2011, 11:27 PM
Could it be the terminology? Maybe he dad has an ought-6, a long gun, a deer slayer, or something of that sort. Rifle seems commonplace to most of us, but that may not be the case everywhere.

MilitisDeii
February 28, 2011, 12:00 AM
Since i had to deal with school mates who
didn't know what a spear is,
that really does not surprise me.

I was about 18 at that time, like my mates.

XxWINxX94
February 28, 2011, 12:09 AM
Note I am in the 8th grade
That puts you at what 13? 14? years old? And at this age one does not even know what a rifle is?

Also, how was your classmate's question responded to? Did the teacher explain to her that a rifle is a long gun, or did she not even know what a firearm is?

killchain
February 28, 2011, 12:10 AM
Here's a question to ponder for those who are shocked that the girl had never heard of a rifle.

What is Kava?

Most of you are going to google it like I did. And you probably had no idea what it was until you googled it, and more than likely you went "Huh, neat."

Point is, not everyone grew up around firearms. Maybe her parents didn't feel the need to show her the hunting rifle. Ragging on the kids or their parents is not a healthy way to promote a pro-gun culture.

General Geoff
February 28, 2011, 12:15 AM
No harm, no foul. The girl didn't know what a rifle is, so she asked. Isn't that what school is for? Learning? :)

Joe Demko
February 28, 2011, 12:21 AM
I think you are misremembering. I really doubt she doesn't know what a rifle is. Fairly early in the story Carlson uses a Luger to put down Candy's old dog. Later, George uses the same pistol to put down Lennie. I could see a kid from a family where nobody is a gun enthusiast not knowing what a Luger is. A rifle, though? Call me curmudgeonly , but I'm not buying the story as told.

XM855
February 28, 2011, 12:21 AM
So much for violence in the media...

Billll
February 28, 2011, 12:25 AM
1. A rifle is a tool, used by governments to enforce their authority, or

2. A rifle is a tool used by citizens to replace governments mentioned in 1.

Other uses abound, of course.

country boy marksman
February 28, 2011, 12:39 AM
wow... in my neck of the woods, even the antis kids are educated enough about guns to know that! I don't have much experience with people that don't know that much about guns, and I don't remember a time when I didn't know about guns! in general, however, I know how you feel, being in 10th grade with a bunch of "city slickers" (I have to explain the difference between a mac 10 and an uzi about twice a month, for instance! :))

Unknown777
February 28, 2011, 12:50 AM
K guys. Sorry for the late response, but the question was responded to with "A rifle is a gun. When on TV, you see soldiers in Iraq, the black guns they are carrying are rifles."

Unknown777
February 28, 2011, 12:52 AM
I think you are misremembering. I really doubt she doesn't know what a rifle is. Fairly early in the story Carlson uses a Luger to put down Candy's old dog. Later, George uses the same pistol to put down Lennie. I could see a kid from a family where nobody is a gun enthusiast not knowing what a Luger is. A rifle, though? Call me curmudgeonly , but I'm not buying the story as told.
The kid knew what a luger is, because another kid said it's a handgun. He knew this from playing Call of Duty, he said.

USAF_Vet
February 28, 2011, 09:55 AM
Not too unususal. I doubt if any kid that age has seen a typewriter, a record player, or even a Sony Cassette Walkman or black & white TV set.

Because those have fallen out of general use. The rifle has not. My stepson was facinated with the concept of the rotary phone. But the concept of a cell phone is as common to him as the rotary phone was to me at his age, whereas the cell phone was nearly inconceivable when I was 7.

CajunBass
February 28, 2011, 10:34 AM
K guys. Sorry for the late response, but the question was responded to with "A rifle is a gun. When on TV, you see soldiers in Iraq, the black guns they are carrying are rifles."

Then the question was answered. That's what school is for. Learning.

As for her not knowing what a rifle is, I'm almost 60 and I still don't know what "apps" are.

VT Deer Hunter
February 28, 2011, 12:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I've got to admit at first i was kinda...well...:fire: Good one.
SAME HERE! I have read Of Mice & Men and its a great book and in NH in the small town lots of people know what a rifle basicly is and a city probally would be different or the families might not like guns?

22-rimfire
February 28, 2011, 12:14 PM
Interesting response to the question. I did notice the "black" being added. Black usually means "bad". I guess the pink ones are "good".

If a student asks a reasonable question, it should be answered in non-political terms.

dirtykid
February 28, 2011, 01:53 PM
maybe if the word rifle was pre-ceeded by the word "assault" , then she would have HAD to heard that conjunction mentioned on the news before,, maybe that kid isint allowed to watch the news ?

FROGO207
February 28, 2011, 06:35 PM
Not knowing what a rifle is follows along the same lines as this that has been around for a while. When asked where that came from, the "vegetarian" girl while eating a hamburger said "from a package in the grocery store". A complete disconnect in some places IMHO.

Ironclad
February 28, 2011, 07:54 PM
Never would have happened at my school. We had a MANDATORY gun safety / hunters education class for all 7th graders put on by the conservation department.

firemanstrickland
March 1, 2011, 03:44 PM
Ironclad, that sounds like a good school to me, and personlly i think the whats a rifle question was for attention, as you can see.......it worked.

NMGonzo
March 2, 2011, 03:29 AM
I've seen kids in the 4th grade that did not know what a scarecrow was.

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