Sheeple and the 2nd Ammendment


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Unknown777
February 28, 2011, 08:18 PM
This isn't exactly gun related, but it IS second amendment related.
Today I was at the mall with my little brother. He had bought something in one of those impossible-to-open plastic boxes. I pulled out a Spyderco Delica and cut it open, and some people turned at me and stared in fright. I will note it is legal for anyone of any age to carry a folding knife where I live (under 3 inches open, over 3 inches concealed.) A guy even rushed over and tried to grab it out of my hand, while yelling "put it down, put it down!" California has become way to PC.

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TexasRifleman
February 28, 2011, 08:31 PM
Whether knives are covered by 2A is still under debate in many circles.

But, besides that, what is the discussion here other than the fact that many people today freak out at the slightest thing?

There a point to this story other than to rant? If so that's fine, otherwise it's going nowhere.

I will say that if I was using a legal knife in a legal manner and someone tried to take it from me I'd not be too happy about that. I'll also say that maybe using a knife out in public isn't the best way to win friends and influence people, even if legal :)

The term sheeple is goofy though. No offense.

Unknown777
February 28, 2011, 08:32 PM
Whether knives are covered by 2A is still under debate in many circles.

But, besides that, what is the discussion here other than the fact that many people today freak out at the slightest thing?

There a point to this story other than to rant? If so that's fine, otherwise it's going nowhere.
I want to knowh ow to deal with these situations, and I am inquiring if anyone else has expreienced similar situations.

BLB68
February 28, 2011, 08:34 PM
If someone rushed at me and tried to take a knife out of my hand, they'd probably lose a finger.

But I'm pretty sure that's not the right response. =)

TexasRifleman
February 28, 2011, 08:34 PM
Fair enough question, thanks.

NMGonzo
February 28, 2011, 08:37 PM
Sheeple ... mmhm ... should be trying to win their hearts and minds?

oldbear
February 28, 2011, 08:39 PM
Your post has nothing to do with “sheeple”, the second amendment, or California becoming to P/C, (which it has) but it is a sad commentary on how paranoid our society has become, and how quickly people are to believe the worst. Perhaps next time it may behoove you to be a little more discreet in helping someone open one of those miserable sealed packages.


The term sheeple is goofy though. No offense.

+1

TexasRifleman
February 28, 2011, 08:42 PM
By the way, a couple of folks have questioned whether knives are covered by the Second Amendment.

That appears to be undecided in court, but many folks believe they are. So for now let's assume at least that they are, for the sake of discussion.

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?id=58&option=com_content&task=view has an interesting article on the subject. We also have a non-firearm forum here at THR, so there's that.

Carter
February 28, 2011, 08:44 PM
This isn't exactly what you asked, but close.

I was getting out of the back of a van one sunday when a bunch of my family got together for lunch. Well, my suit jacket got twisted and stuck on my holster, which I didn't realize, and my gun was showing proudly.
To my surprise, my aunt (who I thought would def be a "sheeple") said something along the lines of "cool, I just got my CC permit too". Sometimes people you expect to be sheeple, can surprise you.

Never had someone try to grab a knife out of my hand, but I'm sure if someone grabbed me I wouldn't let me stand there trying to take my knife away.
I have gotten some rather odd looks when flicking out a knife for a legitimate purpose. College kids are some of the worst. Even had one girl go in to a rant about how I must feel cool because I carry a knife.

Oh well, some people just over react about everything.

EddieNFL
February 28, 2011, 08:50 PM
The term sheeple is goofy though.

Albeit descriptive. Of course, goofy is a pretty descriptive term for many antis.

Several years ago I purchased an Xbox or Playstation for my kid at Wally World. The lady at the electronics station was trying to pop open a little tab to retrieve the S/N. I finally asked if I could help and she responded, "please do." I pulled my Benchmade (auto) and opened it (by my leg so she wouldn't see) and popped the little tab. She took a step back, put her hands up and shuddered.

I guess if I had opened my jacket she would have fainted dead away.

mrbladedude
February 28, 2011, 08:50 PM
A guy even rushed over and tried to grab it out of my hand, while yelling "put it down, put it down!"

For real? Wow what the ...

captain awesome
February 28, 2011, 08:53 PM
that is absolutely ridiculous. People actually freaked out when you took out a knife, to open something? And a pocket knife at that? And a guy rushed you? remind me never to go to California again. People are retarded. This crazy cancer has to be stopped.

Unknown777
February 28, 2011, 08:54 PM
A guy even rushed over and tried to grab it out of my hand, while yelling "put it down, put it down!"

For real? Wow what the ...
A very stupid idea, because what if he was running toward my back, which he was, and i turned around? Ouch. I thought most guys carried knives...

4sooth
February 28, 2011, 09:02 PM
One of my co-workers had to work out of San Diego some years ago in order to do some work on a ships boiler.

On his day off he went to a coffee shop and sat down to enjoy a cup and his copy of American Handgunner. The guy at the next table gasped and said "You have no right to read something like that", and then tried to grab the magazine out of his hand. Bad move--an instant later the guy was in an arm bar doing a faceplant. My buddy tweaked his arm a little and then left before the cops got there. The guy was still on the floor crying when he left!!

He and I both agreed he was lucky not to get arrested--since he was in California!

Cal-gun Fan
February 28, 2011, 09:35 PM
A very stupid idea, because what if he was running toward my back, which he was, and i turned around? Ouch. I thought most guys carried knives...
No offense, but I sincerely doubt someone would maniacally run over to try to grab a knife out of the hand of an 8th grader.

EddieNFL
February 28, 2011, 09:39 PM
No offense, but I sincerely doubt someone would maniacally run over to try to grab a knife out of the hand of an 8th grader.
You underestimate maniacs.

Cal-gun Fan
February 28, 2011, 09:43 PM
Again, no offense, it just seems far fetched.

Carter
February 28, 2011, 09:53 PM
Again, no offense, it just seems far fetched.

In a world where a stranger asks to sell you weed at a gas station, a stranger with no shirt and covered in blood runs up to you in the street trying to fight you, or in a world where anyone who has a knife or a gun is made to look like a scary nut job/criminal nothing is too far fetched.

Cal-gun Fan
February 28, 2011, 10:03 PM
In a world where a stranger asks to sell you weed at a gas station, a stranger with no shirt and covered in blood runs up to you in the street trying to fight you, or in a world where anyone who has a knife or a gun is made to look like a scary nut job/criminal nothing is too far fetched.
Thats not always true. Not as many people actually view people who have a knife or a gun as a nut job or a criminal as a lot of people seem to think (Trust me, Ive been to a gun store in San Francisco and carried two guns in cases with my dad for a couple blocks), its just easier for gun owners to play the victim sometimes than to actually admit that in some cases, reason has been given for the view of anti's (Such as the thread about the guy walking down the street with an AK 47).

As for the stranger with no shirt and covered in blood trying to fight you...really?

Again-I sincerely doubt a random person in a mall would run up, yelling at an 8th grader to drop a knife he is using to open a package.

Carter
February 28, 2011, 10:04 PM
As for the stranger with no shirt and covered in blood trying to fight you...really?

Happened to me in Asheville, NC.

Why not yell at an 8th grader? They're young and dangerous. Or so everyone seems to think. It is those darn youth that keep killing each other. The younger you are, generally the more distrust there is of you, just saying.

Cal-gun Fan
February 28, 2011, 10:07 PM
Happened to me in Asheville, NC.

Why not yell at an 8th grader? They're young and dangerous. Or so everyone seems to think. It is those darn youth that keep killing each other. The younger you are, generally the more distrust there is of you, just saying.
Alright, I've said my point of view, so instead of disputing it lets just agree to disagree.

Sam1911
February 28, 2011, 10:21 PM
Good grief.

Focus, guys, focus. THR has a raison d'etre.

Welcome to The High Road, an online discussion board dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership. It is the declared mission of this board to achieve and provide the highest quality of firearms discussion on the Internet, ...

There are only a few house rules:

1. All topics and posts must be related to firearms or 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' (RKBA) issues.

Knives may be on-topic (we do have that whole "NFW" sub-forum, after all) but the trials and tribulations of growing up, or of trying to open packages without inciting mass panic are not.



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As an aside, if you want to be taken seriously, don't ever ... EVER ... use the word "Sheeple" again.

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