37mm flare launcher


PDA






ultradoc
March 1, 2011, 07:39 AM
Years ago I had a Cobray 37mm flare launcher. I am thinking about getting one again and was supprised to see that there are several makers of this. I would like to have the style that looks like the M-203 version that fits under a full length AR so I will need the handguards. Anyone have any suggestions?

If you enjoyed reading about "37mm flare launcher" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
Forklift352
March 1, 2011, 12:30 PM
spikes tactical.....thats the ones that are popular around
here.

fallout mike
March 1, 2011, 12:57 PM
The price has doubled over the last few years.

fallout mike
March 1, 2011, 12:58 PM
I'd be interested in knowing if u could load some buckshot for it.

Chopdoktor
March 1, 2011, 01:01 PM
Negatory, Mike. That's not only illegal, it's not very safe, either. The heavy-built 'real' 203's have adapters for shotshells, but it is definitely not a good idea, legally or logically to do it with a flare launcher clone.

fallout mike
March 1, 2011, 01:10 PM
I have seen some with the 12 gauge adapter for shooting flares. If it will shoot flares would it shoot any 12 gauge round? I'm not a retard or anything, I just have no clue how they work. I've never even seen one oin person.

fallout mike
March 1, 2011, 01:12 PM
U used yo be able to buy bird shot rounds in 37mm

Chopdoktor
March 1, 2011, 01:15 PM
12 gauge flares are different from 12 gauge shotgun shells. They're much shorter. Common flare sizes are 37mm, 26.5mm (I think), 12 gauge, etc. You're probably thinking of 'bird-bombs', not bird-shot. Those were like a timed release explosion that blew up once it was airborne.

DammitBoy
March 1, 2011, 01:18 PM
What can you legally and safely shoot out of a 37mm launcher?

Chopdoktor
March 1, 2011, 01:45 PM
37mm flares :-)

Chopdoktor
March 1, 2011, 01:46 PM
And also any of the smaller flares, previously mentioned, with the appropriate adapter. The smaller ones can be significantly cheaper.

fallout mike
March 1, 2011, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the info.

Chopdoktor
March 1, 2011, 02:13 PM
No problem, brother.

ny32182
March 1, 2011, 04:12 PM
Can't you just buy a real 203 just as easily? (I've never really looked into it).

ultradoc
March 2, 2011, 07:45 AM
Thanks forklift. I will check out Spikes Tac.

Sam1911
March 2, 2011, 07:52 AM
Can't you just buy a real 203 just as easily? (I've never really looked into it). A real M203 grenade launcher is a NFA Title II "Destructive Device." So, legal to own, but requires transfer on a Form 4 and $200 tax, CLEO signoff, etc.

The 37mm launchers are determined to be flare guns, so no such hassles.

Here is a site that can explain it all in detail: http://37mm.com/

benEzra
March 2, 2011, 08:10 AM
And if you create any sort of non-flare load for a 37mm flare gun (whether birdshot or whatever), you've just turned your novelty flare launcher into an unregistered Title 2 restricted destructive device. That's 10 years in Federal prison. If you somehow convert it to fire 12-guage shotgun shells, but the barrel is shorter than 18", you've created a Title 2 restricted short-barreled shotgun. That's also 10 years in Federal prison.

I can see the appeal of flare launchers to collectors who want a real-looking M4gery without the Title 2 cost and paperwork, but if you want to shoot something other than flares, you have to go the legal Title 2 route and get an M203.

LemmyCaution
March 2, 2011, 08:14 AM
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe smoke rounds for the 37mm launchers are also legal without a tax stamp, not just flares.

Sam1911
March 2, 2011, 08:23 AM
Yes, you can launch a variety of things, so long as they aren't intended or especially capable of harming something. Nothing that produces shrapnel, no shot, no explosive "bird bomb" payloads that exceed a very small charge, etc.

Possession of a home-made (or purchased) 37mm round loaded with shot, rubber balls, wooden slugs, or other "less lethal" items all will get you charged with posessing an unregistered Destructive Device. It is a "signalling device" only.

XM855
March 2, 2011, 09:07 AM
Don't forget, you can launch fireworks out of them too!

DammitBoy
March 2, 2011, 12:03 PM
What about flash/bang rounds or other types of loud noise rounds?

Gordon
March 2, 2011, 12:07 PM
1/4 oz. explosive charge limit.:uhoh:

ultradoc
March 4, 2011, 07:16 AM
they also have tear gas rounds. when I had mine I shot bird bombs,flares,smoke. No tear gas.

Sam1911
March 4, 2011, 07:38 AM
they also have tear gas roundsYes. According to the latest ATF ruling I've seen, tear gas rounds are not considered "anti-personnel" the way rubber balls or wood baton rounds are.

DammitBoy
March 4, 2011, 03:26 PM
I thought CS rounds are restricted to law enforcement/military?

Do you mean pepper rounds?

Sam1911
March 4, 2011, 03:29 PM
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?topic=191131.0

Here's a link to the ATF ruling on this. They use the term "gas/flare" to indicate which applications are legal without DD registration.

They do not get into exactly which chemicals would be legal to posess or deploy in this document, though obviously there are many such substances that would not be.

DammitBoy
March 4, 2011, 03:38 PM
37mm CS rounds are in the marketplace. It is my understanding that the average joe cannot buy them. Restricted to military and police purchase only.

True or False?

If you enjoyed reading about "37mm flare launcher" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!