Vintage AND Unfired?


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XxWINxX94
March 1, 2011, 10:22 PM
Hello everyone,
I would like to start sort of a show and tell thread, though this one might not have too many participants due to the subject, but it should be interesting.

So heres what I was thinking:
How many people have guns of a certain vintage, that you know are unfired/in original NIB condition that haven't had 1 round put through them?

I'm not looking for the Glock you bought yesterday, but maybe a rifle you inherited, or revolver you bought many years ago that you haven't fired, or you think has never seen 1 shot.

I don't mean to advocate not shooting your guns, I would just like to see if anyone has anything thats "older" that hasn't been shot yet, or is in Unfired/NIB condition.

I'll start with a Winchester Model 94 Centennial Limited Edition in .30-30. I know for a fact that this gun was won by my Uncle in a shooting contest in 1994. When he past away, I found this gun in a case with the tags & safety stickers still on it and it was labeled as NIB. My Uncles old shooting buddies confirmed that the rifle was unfired because they were told by my uncle that this gun was not fired, or even touched all that much. I carefully examined the bore, chamber and other parts and determined that it had never been fired. Since I took posession of it, it has not been fired at all with live ammunition (only dry firing). So this makes this gun close to 17 years old and will remain unfired as long as it is in my possesion. I'm not sure my reasoning for this mentality, but I just think it adds uniqueness to my collection, having a gun thats kind of "old" that has never been fired.
Check it out :cool:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9848/dsc00697ei.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/383/dsc00696j.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9496/dsc00698uq.jpg

So if anyone has any guns they think are sort of old that are Unfired/NIB lets see them!

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Xfire68
March 1, 2011, 10:33 PM
Nice Winchester you have there!

Hardtarget
March 2, 2011, 12:15 AM
When I was 17 my dad bought a Win 94. Brought it home, put it in the gun cabinet, and there it sat. Two months...six months...eleven months!....never moved. It was KILLING me! Then he gave it to me for Christmas!

I just CANNOT imagine 17 plus years and never been shot! More power to ya'!

That is a good looking rifle and one day some one will inherit a perfect rifle...and they will love it. Choose carefully. :D

Mark

lvalmont
March 2, 2011, 12:27 AM
hope youre using snap caps for the dry firing!

XxWINxX94
March 2, 2011, 08:29 AM
Nice Winchester you have there!
Thank you!

That is a good looking rifle and one day some one will inherit a perfect rifle...and they will love it. Choose carefully.

Yup, thats my goal. Hopefully one day it will go to someone who respects it as much as I do

hope youre using snap caps for the dry firing!
I actually didn't, I only dry fired it 2 times total, ever.

SaxonPig
March 2, 2011, 08:34 AM
Over the past 45 years I have purchased a number of older guns that were in unfired condition. None remained that way.

avs11054
March 2, 2011, 08:49 AM
I have a Model 12 Winchester 12 Gauge that my dad inherited from his dad (sorry, I still have not been able to figure out how to put pics in my posts). I called Winchester, and based off the serial number, they told me it was made in 1950. My dad always claimed it was unfired, however, I do not know his reasons for believing this. I never saw any original box or paperwork, so who knows. I do know, however, my dad never fired it, and it was passed on to me when he died, and I know I will never fire it. So I guess that's as close as I can get for now.

PapaG
March 2, 2011, 09:01 AM
Got a third model Detective Special from and estate. Unfired but no box or papers. Only a very, very faint ring from the cylinder being turned a couple times.

ColtPythonElite
March 2, 2011, 09:27 AM
Four Colts...I would have had a fifth one, but shot it the day after I bought it.

InkEd
March 2, 2011, 09:46 AM
Nice guns that never get fired.......sad.

ColtPythonElite
March 2, 2011, 09:55 AM
I'm not shedding any tears. I've got a fired one or two, also.

CraigC
March 2, 2011, 10:10 AM
I'd put a receiver sight on the Winchester and take it to the range, then to the woods. Actually, I almost bought one back then.

Last year I bought a NIB S&W 24-3 6" .44Spl off Gunbroker. It was 27yrs old and had never been fired. It's an excellent shooter!

Same for a 16yr old Ruger Blackhawk Buckeye special .38-40/10mm convertible, an 8yr old Browning 53, a 28yr old Winchester 1971 NRA Centennial Rifle and a 15yr old Davidson's exclusive dovetail rear sight New Model Single Six.

welldoya
March 2, 2011, 10:48 AM
I bought this Browning HP back in the 80s. Last year made and assembled in Belgium. Still has the original grease on it.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/welldoya/GEDC0084.jpg


Bought this 10/22 in the late 90s. Never shot.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/welldoya/GEDC0078.jpg

Also have a Browning A-5 magnum that's never been shot.
And a Winchester 94 from the last year they were made that has never been shot.
I just bought them because I wanted them. I have other guns that I shoot so I just never got around to shooting them.

Manco
March 2, 2011, 12:52 PM
Nice guns that never get fired.......sad.

Philosophically, it seems that they're not truly guns unless they're fired, just exact replicas--mere relics from the same manufacturing facilities that never fulfilled their purpose and promise. :(;)

22-rimfire
March 2, 2011, 01:03 PM
Nice Winchester. If I purchase something old in real good shape, it is generally because I want to keep it as a safe queen. So it would stay unfired or the condition I received it in until I died or sold it.

awgrizzly
March 2, 2011, 01:32 PM
Here are a few of mine, all from collectors and sworn to have never been fired with no indication they have. All with box and the .30 M1 with shipping carton. The Detective Special was made in 1975 three years after Colt discontinued the 2nd issue and the .32 caliber. Colt made it from left over inventory by special order from a collector. The Colt 200th anniversary cavalry commemorative set was made by Colt and is an exact duplicate of the originals with matching serial numbers.

Ruger Single Six Flatgate .22 cal. circa 1956
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/Single-sixrt.jpg

Colt Detective Special 2nd Issue .32 cal. circa 1975*
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/ColtDetectiveSpecial2.jpg

Ruger Blackhawk .30 M1 circa 1977
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/Blackhawkrt.jpg

Colt Navy Percussion .44 Cal. Cavalry Commemorative circa 1977
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/Colt1977CavalryAnniverserySet.jpg

Stevie-Ray
March 2, 2011, 03:18 PM
I've got a circa 1966 Ruger 10/22 that a friend gave me. He said he "didn't think he ever fired it." It was in the box and appears pristine. I intend to fire it, though.;)

XxWINxX94
March 2, 2011, 06:09 PM
Awesome guys! Some real gems here in such perfect condition. Its hard to just keep a gun that long and resist the urge to fire it. Thanks for the comments on my Winchester, I really like it alot and it means the world to me.

Keep the guns & stories coming! Really good eye candy and some good stories here guys.

WhistlinDixie
March 2, 2011, 06:21 PM
You should really start using that High Power, Welldoya

Larry E
March 2, 2011, 06:21 PM
I've got guns I don't shoot frequently, but don't have a single one that's never been fired. Can't see much point in owning a gun that I never intended on shooting, but maybe it's the way I was brought up. :D

welldoya
March 2, 2011, 11:38 PM
You should really start using that High Power, Welldoya
Yeh, I know you are right. I probably should. Maybe I will soon. 25 years is probably long enough to hold onto it without shooting it.

ball3006
March 3, 2011, 04:37 PM
I have an Enfield No4 Mk2 that has never been fired. My M1D that I got from the CMP had never been fired since conversion to a D. I have shot the M1D and it is sweet.....chris3

danprkr
March 3, 2011, 05:45 PM
+1 to inked's comment

content
March 3, 2011, 07:05 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // That is a beautiful Centennial Winchester 94 and a good story to go with it.

Unfired firearms are not my specialty but I do have a few. With other guns of the same type I see no need to shoot these.

1867 S&W Model 1 1/2, .32 rim fire.137578
Of three gunsmiths only one thinks it may have been gone over. No cylinder line or discoloration, I agree with the two that say unfired.

1937 H&R Model 299 "New Defender", .22137579
This caught my eye when looking over a half dozen S&W revolvers from the 1890s-1940s.

I just felt it was a work of art, discoloration of the cylinder indicated it was fired twice most likely at the factory.

1958 Winchester Model 1200 RIOT, 12ga.137581
This shotgun has never been assembled let alone fired.
Not really rare or collectable but the price was right.

1983 Colt Python, .357137580
I also bought one made in 1961 to shoot and boy am I glad I did these babies perform.
I wish the 61 was the NIB but the 1983 will have to do.

PapaG
March 3, 2011, 10:19 PM
Picked up a 2 1/2" Diamondback a few years back from a friend...it had been sitting in a display case at his dad's gas station for years and the grip facing up was sun faded, the backstrap and the "downside" sideplate were lightly rusted and very lightly pitted. I gave him a "fair" price for it, both of us agreeing on condition and the need for careful restoration.

Took it down to the shop, started to clean it up and found old factory oil hardened to a tan hard coating. Jeweler's loupe examination of cylinder face, top strap and barrel throat showed no use whatever. Thirty or more years old, looked not so good and unfired.

Cleaned it up and corrected the unused part of the problem. Great shooter, accurate, and a nice CCW weapon when I'm out of the Republik where I live and can exercise my second ammendment rights.

-eaux-
March 3, 2011, 11:01 PM
Does the fired brass in the little envelope from the proving shot from the factory count?
Just asking to stir the pot. ;)
In response to the OP, no I haven't any firearms I've never fired.

XxWINxX94
March 5, 2011, 12:30 AM
Does the fired brass in the little envelope from the proving shot from the factory count?


Hmmm... it still has been "fired" but i guess factory firing might eliminate alot of guns posted. So factory firing is ok i guess.

Shanghai McCoy
March 5, 2011, 08:19 AM
Buyin' a gun and not shooting it is like marrying a woman and not...:o
Well, nevermind...;)

Nice guns guys. :)

LibShooter
March 5, 2011, 08:59 AM
This is a timely discussion for me. Dad recently gave me a commemorative edition Winchester '94 in 30-30. It's gold plated and has a Texas Sesquicentennial medallion in the stock. It's not close to NiB condition but he thinks it has never been fired.

My dilemma: should I shoot it? I don't think it will affect its value. It's showing signs of past rust and corrosion. On the other side, there's no "reason" to fire it. I don't hunt, and even if I did a gold plated tarted-up rifle seems like a silly tool for hunting deer.

Any ideas?

22-rimfire
March 5, 2011, 09:52 AM
I would take care of the 30-30 and if you feel like shooting it, shoot it. It doesn't sound like it would make any difference what so ever based on your words. Just take care of it.

Claude Clay
March 5, 2011, 10:31 AM
factory fired is like the 3.8 miles on a new car. one is test fired and the other is from moving it around for shipping. some very nice guns pictured here. my only is a numbered Bearcat. if it wasn't that i have another, it would be fired. but it will go to my 1st granchild. someday...:D

SlamFire1
March 5, 2011, 11:54 AM
I have a M624 44 Special NIB. I bought it from the gun store around 1986 and have never fired it.

My excuse was to keep it in "reserve" and use it when I "wore out" my other 4" M624

Here is the other one, and I think I will be worn out before it is worn out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Pistols/ReducedM624rightsideDSCN5067.jpg

Come to my estate sale, it will be good. :)

4000 posts and still nothing to say!

TIMC
March 5, 2011, 12:00 PM
Other than the factory test fire this Remington made Springfield 03 rifle has never had a round through it. The barrel stamp is 12-41. These rifles were made by Remington in anticipation of a sale contract to England starting in October 1941 - March 1942 but were held in reserve when the war broke out. My dad bought it shortly after WWII, I think he said for $25. My dad never fired it and handed it down to me several years ago and while I have been tempted I have not fred it either.

This rifle is 100% without a mark on her.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/1903rifle.jpg

XxWINxX94
March 5, 2011, 12:36 PM
Other than the factory test fire this Remington made Springfield 03 rifle has never had a round through it. The barrel stamp is 12-41. These rifles were made by Remington in anticipation of a sale contract to England starting in October 1941 - March 1942 but were held in reserve when the war broke out. My dad bought it shortly after WWII, I think he said for $25. My dad never fired it and handed it down to me several years ago and while I have been tempted I have not fred it either.

This rifle is 100% without a mark on her.


:what::eek:

I think this one takes the cake!
Thats a fantastic looking rifle, TIMC.
Take very good care of it it's a real gem.

Baba Louie
March 5, 2011, 02:04 PM
TIMC, That is one sweet '03. 12-41 huh? Wow. Just wow.

Back in 1966, my Dad became enamoured with Winchester's gold plated octagonal barreled Centennial model 94 and bought a carbine for $125 or so. Pristine, still new in box... I wonder why I keep it that way sometimes, altho I know I'll pass down a virgin piece of yellow sculpture to my son or grandson some day. What they do with it... not my problem. Let it be their albotross hanging around their neck, or something.

Guns were made to shoot and I don't have a collector mentality at all. Tho I do have some old timers of his also that I won't shoot and keep just because they were his and have some history behind them. But they are not virginal like the Centennial.

Armybrat
March 5, 2011, 02:14 PM
I bought this Mini14 new sometime in the early '80s. Never have shot it becuz I ain't seen any zombies yet:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/GregoryBirthday2011021.jpg

gym
March 5, 2011, 06:18 PM
Shoot em if you got em. Unless you have a rare gun that you plan on selling for enough money to retire on, you may as well enjoy it now while you are still alive. I had a Browning that I left at my moms hose for 50 years, the gun was left to me when an uncle passed away, it had been greased up wrapped in paper and covered in flannel and put in a soft case. I let it stay at my moms figuring It would just keep appreciating till She moved a year ago. So I sold it to some guy on one of the large firearms sales sites. I got 3 calls in the first 15 minutes, I sold it to a guy who already had several of the same rifle?. About a week later he calls me up and tells me it wasn't in "museum quality" shape, So I asked him to go back and look a the ad, he tells me that it was exactlly as I described it to him in the ad and on the phone.
So I said well then If you wanted a Museum quality piece you should not have bought my gun, seeing that I already spent your money. Not a mark chip srratch on it and I never fired it.
So he got pissed off and hung up. He wanted me to pay another three hundred dollars to have the stock brought up to perfect flawless shape. I would have just as soon kept the darn thing than be aggravated by selling it, you just can't figure out what makes certain people tick. So shoot your guns or someone who you leave them to will shoot them lose them or trade them for a new pistol he saw worth nothing.
I have seen too many people sacrafice to leave things to kids who could care less about them. And go through money saved by frugile parents in no time at all. Unfortunate but true.

Giterboosted
March 5, 2011, 07:08 PM
For anyone interested theres a lgs nest e that has a PRE wwII us gift issue colt 45 UNFIRED, one owner had it, sold it to the store cus he was well up there in age and didn't need it, it was his issue piece way back when and he kept it all those years, you can tell not a rd through it, 2500$

doc2rn
March 6, 2011, 12:28 AM
I have a vintage Colt Python also NIB, dont know why I dont shoot it other than the fact I have a Diamondback that I shoot regularly.

WC145
March 6, 2011, 07:22 AM
I've got a couple -

AMT AutoMag V .50AE
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/TRP5_35VM2I/AAAAAAAACoA/RHVFgxln6Gg/s512/SDC11310.JPG

AMT Hardballer Longslide
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/TOxHOWgjVtI/AAAAAAAACjU/7m9oAPmziyU/s800/SDC11250.JPG

S&W 17-6 -
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/THbkfv9zx5I/AAAAAAAACJE/5xjcP5nTzEc/s640/SDC11066.JPG

Here's a couple I had and sold over the last 6mos or so -

S&W 242
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/TM8yzVa5RgI/AAAAAAAACYU/R8Fw7h_VcYw/s640/SDC11158.JPG

S&W M63
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/TM8ysZT3crI/AAAAAAAACX8/aNe8n70MkVg/s576/SDC11152.JPG


S&W M627PC "Blood Work"
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/TL2ed8GQK0I/AAAAAAAACUE/Ny-VdGpgKNM/s640/SDC11130.JPG

content
March 6, 2011, 08:04 AM
Hello friends and neighbors// Nice old style model 63.

I'd pay as much for a vintage 6 shot as I would for new 8 shot w/lock.

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