Pit Bull Attacks 3, Survives Gunshot To Head
dandean316
January 5, 2004, 09:48 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/2740322/detail.html
Pit Bull Attacks 3, Survives Gunshot To Head
Police Searching For Dog's Owner
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Authorities are searching for the owner of a pit bull terrier that attacked two women and a man in Orange County Sunday and survived being shot in the head, according to Local 6 News.
Three women were walking in a neighborhood on Lee Avenue off Orange Blossom Trail near Lake Holden when they saw a dog, according to the report.
The women reportedly attempted to pet the dog and it attacked.
"I felt like a 2-year-old helpless child," victim Jamie Garner said. "The only thing I could do was cry and ask somebody, please get the dog off me. But everybody was scared to come out of the house."
The dog stopped attacking one woman and attacked another's leg.
"Four bite holes and a big gash on this leg -- you can see all the way to my bone," Sabrina Harris told Local 6 News.
Neighbors hit the dog with a stick and even shot it in the head, but the pit bull survived.
The dog ran by 10 people and found another victim.
"After he jumped on her, they got him away from her," a victim said. " He (then) found me. Come looking for me. And he dragged me from one point of the street to the next."
Orange County Animal Control workers later captured the dog still roaming in the neighborhood with a visible gunshot wound to the head.
All three victims were transported to a local hospital with injuries from the dog. Two of the victims were released Sunday night.
The dog was being evaluated by a veterinarian and will be quarantined for 10 days.
Animal Control officials put up this sign letting the dog's owner know he or she has until Jan. 9 to claim the dog.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
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Amish_Bill
January 5, 2004, 09:56 PM
Orange County Animal Control workers later captured the dog still roaming in the neighborhood with a visible gunshot wound to the head. Can we say "Not Enough Gun" boys and girls?
Highland Ranger
January 6, 2004, 12:41 AM
Alright, who's going to start the customary caliber/shot placement discussion.
DougCxx
January 6, 2004, 06:18 AM
It's the lousy public educational system. :/
They don't teach kids how to place proper brain shots on anything anymore.
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DougCxx
January 6, 2004, 06:19 AM
?
....... -Although a heart shot would be more fitting I suppose; they use the brain to test for diseases I thinks.........
GLOCKT
January 6, 2004, 08:20 AM
I'll say a 380 or under!
Wedge
January 6, 2004, 08:47 AM
Who would go up to a strange dog and try to pet it?!?!
It might have been a larger caliber than .380, but I guarantee that it was a hollow point.
carpettbaggerr
January 6, 2004, 09:11 AM
Pitbulls have thick skulls with a lot of muscle to drive their jaws. And if they had someone's leg in their mouth, you'd have trouble making a good shot to the head anyway. Not suprising it didn't go down.
Snowdog
January 6, 2004, 09:11 AM
JHP, FMJ... doesn't matter. It's doubtfull the slug ended up in the brain. The slug probably skimmed the skull, merely tearing the scalp and making a nasty looking wound, though a nonfatal one. This glancing effect isn't all that unusual.
Heck, the pit very well could have been hit with .45acp hardball for all it matters.
A nasty flesh wound, that's my guess.
JimJD
January 6, 2004, 09:26 AM
I posted something about a pitbull surviving a shot to the head back in november. Here, take a look:
THR-"Owners Of Pit Bulls Killed By Officer Could Face Charges" thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52047&highlight=pitbull)
Wish I had a videocamera with Me that day. Or a still camera.
Travis McGee
January 6, 2004, 09:32 AM
I read on another thread yesterday about a farmer who heard noises in his chicken coop, and went out at night to investigae with only a 410 shotgun. Much to his surprise a grizzly cub ran out followed by its charging mother! He took a snap shot with the 410, dropping the 400# grizzly dead at his feet! Seems that little shotgun hit "just right" entering through the nose and penetrating all the way to the brain. Talk about luck! Sort of the opposite of this pit bull story....
TarpleyG
January 6, 2004, 09:40 AM
The dog was being evaluated by a veterinarian and will be quarantined for 10 days.
Why??? Kill the damned thing and be done with it.
GT
roo_ster
January 6, 2004, 11:25 AM
A cop buddy of mine has had some bad luck with dogs.
Once an owner of a Rottie sicced it on him & my buddy had to defend himself. Shot it with a .40S&W. Hit it in the snout, penetrated top of snout & out the bottom of the jaw. The Rottie survived & got the heck outta dodge.
Vets were called to the scene.
Owner got 3 hots/cot courtesy of the local taxpayers.
DougCxx
January 6, 2004, 11:40 AM
The dog was being evaluated by a veterinarian and will be quarantined for 10 days.
Why??? Kill the damned thing and be done with it.
-Because they observe it for possible signs of emerging diseases such as rabies:
---There are a number of diseases that humans need treatment for if they are infected (by animals), and if they destroy the dog right away, then the only way to find out what diseases it had is to run a series of tests--and most all of those tests will turn out negative. In fact, a lot of the time, all of the tests will turn out negative.
---Rabies is the big concern however, and it has stages. The pre-active stage can be up to several years, the furious stage is ~1 week, and the paralysis/coma stage is <1 week. Rabies is not particularly difficult to treat in humans as long as treatment begins before the active stages (the last two). Most humans enter the active stage in one to three months after infection, and after that occurs usually cannot be saved, even now.
---Now they could destroy the dog immediately and run a bunch of tests on its tissue for a number of different diseases, but that would cost a lot of money and even worse, doing that take more than a week. So you see, the live dog is the quickest lab test they have: if it has become aggressive because it is already entering the furious stage of infection, that will be obvious just by observing it for a few days. Meanwhile, if the dog is rabid, you probably have at least thirty days before you've got real problems.
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So basically what they are doing is,
they are betting that if the dog has rabies, it will turn mad before you do.
:what:
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Tall Man
January 6, 2004, 12:51 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107423,00.html
(I personally don't consider the new name any improvement at all over the existing moniker.)
TM
Suomipoika
January 6, 2004, 12:55 PM
Am i correct: Pitt bull is a dog?
TarpleyG
January 6, 2004, 01:20 PM
Yes, an American "Pit" Bull Terrier. They are named such because certain cretins like to throw two of them in a pit against one another and bet on them fighting to the death.
GT
http://www.colbypitbull.com/sam2.gif
JimJD
January 6, 2004, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I can't believe...no wait, I can believe that some moron wants to name them "New Yorkies".
Funny thing is, most of the so-called "pitbulls" I encountered when I lived/worked in NYC were mutts.
Damn hoodlums let them breed like crazy with anything.
I am however waiting for the day when I come across a pitbull-chihuahua mix!:D
Oops! had to edit bad grammar...
riverdog
January 6, 2004, 06:18 PM
Every pit bull I've met has been a real puppy dog, but boy can they play. All my neighbors Pit ever wanted was a scatch behind the ears and a little exercise. One day the neighbors Pit and my dog were chasing each other and one of them (probably my retriever) clipped me behind the knees while it was running full out. I went down like I had no legs. Both dogs kept going like nothing had happened.
Pit Bulls get the way they are with people because of their environment. Their breeding was for a dog that would not touch a human who was in the pit while they were fighting. Recent years that genetic code has been rewritten. Too bad, I wouldn't hesitete to take in a Pit Bull pup that hadn't yet been mistreated.
Spot77
January 6, 2004, 06:39 PM
Anybody do the math?
The article was posted January 5th on the local6.com website.
The owners have until Jan. 9th to claim the dog.
The dog must be quarantined for 10 days.
What if the owners claim the dog on the 10th?
"Sorry folks, you're a day late. We're keeping your dog alive for testing for a few more days then we're going to kill it. (Insert evil laugh here)
:confused:
Cosmoline
January 6, 2004, 07:09 PM
I'm around big dogs a lot and I've seen how they attack. The trained ones will typically go for the arms (security) or for the kill (military), depending on how they are trained and what jobs they do. The untrained ones, which includes 99% of the big dogs out there, will go for sucker bites when the person is running away or attack small people. They rarely bite a grown man who isn't running away. Most of the "latch on" bites therefore come in the buttocks or back of the legs. NOT the best arrangement to be trying for a head shot! It's a much better idea to wait till you have a good heart/lung shot. Lots of animals and even people have survived head shots and even brain shots, but nothing on this planet can survive a bullet through the heart and lungs.
mtnbkr
January 6, 2004, 07:35 PM
I am however waiting for the day when I come across an pitbull-chihuahua mix
A family in my neighborhood had a pit/<something> mix that was about 12lbs or so. It only had three legs, so we nicknamed it "Tripod". Mean sucker, but when it copped an attitude, all you had to do was tip it over. :D
Chris
anapex
January 6, 2004, 07:58 PM
Man I know one thing I learned pretty quick as a kid was never go near a dog that you didn't know. Guess it takes some people a little bit longer.
JimJD
January 6, 2004, 08:07 PM
Every pit bull I've met has been a real puppy dog, but boy can they play.
For the most part, that is true. My cousin has a purebred, and boy is He fun. Looooves to play! His little buddy is a pomeranian, it's funny to watch the two get into things.
I agree, most of the problems lie in upbringing. Sometimes.
Can't stand it when I saw the ones that were put on steroids and treadmills. :cuss:
Chipperman
January 6, 2004, 08:29 PM
Probably the biggest reason for keeping the dog alive right now is politics.
If they kill it now, they have to send the head off for Rabies testing. They are probably concerned about the media hyping up the fact that the head is going to be chopped off and sent to a State Lab.
If the dog is still alive and not exhibiting any neurologic signs after ten days, they can just put it down and be done with it.
Highland Ranger
January 6, 2004, 08:35 PM
What if the owners claim the dog on the 10th?
Owners won't be claiming that dog - it attacked humans so its good as dead in any case and opening yourself up for a liability suit for a dead animal, although the right thing to do (responsible for your actions), just won't happen.
I read on another thread yesterday about a farmer who heard noises in his chicken coop, and went out at night to investigae with only a 410 shotgun. Much to his surprise a grizzly cub ran out followed by its charging mother! He took a snap shot with the 410, dropping the 400# grizzly dead at his feet!
Goes to the chicken coop with a Rocket Launcher and two grenades now eh?
Glamdring
January 7, 2004, 12:18 AM
No.
The problem is that it is an "Undead Ninja Pit Bull" named Grizzly. They just can't kill it so far, no matter what they try. :neener:
gabeodog
January 7, 2004, 01:22 AM
I hate pitbulls. wouldnt want to kill one. but if i had too i wouldnt loose sleep
DougCxx
January 7, 2004, 01:49 AM
Gun could have been a 25ACP pocket pistol--the dog probably laughed at it.
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MrPink
January 7, 2004, 09:50 AM
OK so maybe this was an example of "not enough gun" but what I don't get is why didn't the gun owner keep shooting?
What about the maxim, shoot and keep shooting until they stop?
Ky Larry
January 7, 2004, 10:03 AM
As I understand the story, the dog survived a gunshot to the head.If it had been shot with MY (insert gun here) in (insert caliber here) that dog wound have been decapitated.
Just trying to give the caliber/gun make idiots a jump start. Go ahead . Flame away. :D
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