Moving cross country with firearms,ammo,all reloading stuff


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kelo4u2
March 4, 2011, 03:49 AM
[I am going to be moving from the peoples Republic of New Jersey to New Mexico with all of my guns and reloading stuff - powder primers and ammo. Could someone tell me the easiest way to move everything. I will not be driving out myself. Was thinking of renting one of those pods or something like that.
Thanks

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buck1032
March 4, 2011, 09:18 AM
Most, if not all movers will not move ammo, primers or powder. You will have to come up with a way to get it there yourself. Good luck.

glock36
March 4, 2011, 10:14 AM
I don't know what amounts of reloading supply's you have but when I was in the house hold moving trade, boxes that were packed and sealed by the customer were labeled as
(packed by owner, contents and condition unknown) kind of takes the monkey of the drivers back if you know what I mean
Good luck
God speed

Ken C
March 4, 2011, 10:33 AM
Must tell a story about moving reloading stuff from California to Arizona.

About 4 years ago I purchased a ton (literally) of reloading stuff from a former neighbor from when I lived in San Diego. Included was 15-20 pounds of various powders, huge quantities of primers, bullets galore ... you get the picture.

OK, loaded all this into the bed of a Ford Ranger, locked down the hard tonneau cover, and headed to Phoenix. First thing I noticed was the poor little Ranger was a bit overloaded, not much acceleration, headlights scanning the sky.

No real problems driving on I8 through California, a little slow through the mountains. Into Arizona, east of Yuma, a Border Patrol check point, oh no, this could be interesting.

And, the dogs are on duty.

So, here I am with 'explosive materials', in an overloaded truck (could be full of illegals). I am starting to sweat !! :) Pull up to the officer, he gives me the hard stare, I know I'm about to have a heart attack. And then, he waves me through ! Trying to stay calm, I smile and head on down the road.

Got home and made sure the bourbon had not spoiled in my absence ...

22-rimfire
March 4, 2011, 10:50 AM
I will not be driving out myself.

You flying or taking a bus? Does that mean you don't own a car or shipping the car(s)?

I would suggest you drive and use a U-Haul type trailer depending on the volume involved. You could very easily loose your guns if commercial movers move you. No ammo allowed unless you sneak it into the load. A pod might work if the movers do not open the pod between the pick up and delivery points. I am sure you will have to provide keys to the lock or they will cut it off and replace it with their own.

Good story Ken C.

Added: I transport all high value or sensitive items myself. I have done several 1000+ mile moves. My feeling is that if you want the "stuff", you need to take care of it personally. If you don't care, have the movers pack and haul everything that is legal.

JackSaxet
March 4, 2011, 11:09 AM
UPS has a pod service I used two years ago to move from Oregon to Texas. They drop it off at your site, you load it, they pick it up and deliver it on the other end. They will even hold it (for a small fee) if you don't want it delivered right away. Your lock, your key - contents undisturbed.

MEHavey
March 4, 2011, 11:15 AM
Whenever I moved (PCS's over 30 years), I rented a small U-Haul and packed everything in there (light gunsafe/guns/HAZMAT stuff,etc) that the movers wouldn't/couldn't and/or I didn't want to move. It was relatively convenient, as secure as anything can be (short of very large boltcutters and a determined BG that had to pick among many U-Hauls), and didn't leave me vulnerable to incredible liability if I PBO'd and gave it to the common carrier.

Wedge
March 4, 2011, 11:54 AM
Most, if not all movers will not move ammo, primers or powder. You will have to come up with a way to get it there yourself. Good luck.

My movers wouldn't touch anything, I had to move it myself. renting a U-haul would be the way to go.

esheato
March 4, 2011, 12:38 PM
I moved last year from CA to TX.

Used a double axle Uhaul for safe, powder, primers, ammunition and guns. I gutted the safe of all shelving, and soft cased all the weapons and mashed them into the safe. Safe on it's back, locked, and the trailer was locked too. No problems whatsoever. I am glad we moved in the winter (Nov timeframe). Last thing I wanted was to move that rolling bomb through the desert in the summer.

makarovnik
March 4, 2011, 04:53 PM
Good luck, hope you don't get pulled over.

FL Trainer
March 4, 2011, 06:35 PM
Kelo go to the NRA website and find (I think its moving with firearms) the federal ruling on transporting firearms for the purpose of moving to a new location. The feds allow you to do this it is legal. Make sure all firearms are secure, dismantle handguns and rifles, remove bolts and slides etc. Keep ammo separate, ammo cans work great depending how much you have. Secure the cans with padlocks.

When I moved from NY to Florida in 2000 I packed my Camry with all my rifles, handguns, ammo, reloading items etc. I had one thing on my mind.....getting stopped. Jersey and Maryland were my only worry. If I would've gotten stopped the papers would've had a field day with me, (Arsenal found in vehicle traveling to FL.) even though it was absolutely legal.

When you find that paperwork download and print those items, keep them with you during the trip. Don't speed or do anything that will draw attention to yourself.

It took me 18 hrs. from Long Island to Summerfield FL., I stopped for fast food and gas. I never left the car. Get some NO-DOZE they work great.

Stay safe.....Carl

tekarra
March 4, 2011, 08:27 PM
My mover packed everything, said it was household goods. However, I had no primers nor powder.

Sooner1911
March 4, 2011, 09:42 PM
I temporarily moved from Texas to NYC in 2007 with most of my stuff going into storage until I return. Movers said no powder or primers. No way would I trust my guns to a mover. My dad's guns are irreplaceable. They moved my safe to my brother's home and I drove all of my guns/reloading supplies in my personal vehicle. I got a nickle size paint chip knocked off the safe in the move, but at least I knew my guns were treated right. I never really thought about getting pulled over, but I had 2 handguns/16 rifles/4 shotguns in my trunk and kept to the speed limit. No problems.

nalioth
March 4, 2011, 09:53 PM
Make sure all firearms are secure, dismantle handguns and rifles, remove bolts and slides etc.This it so totally not required. Where did you hear this?

FL Trainer
March 5, 2011, 09:14 AM
Nalioth, Kelo go to the NRA-ILA site and find The Guide To The Interstate Transportation of Firearms, it will explain all that's needed to know. Print a copy too carry with you. Most LEO's aren't aware of the laws fed or state.

Maybe dismantling was the wrong word, all I did was remove the bolts and slides which isn't required by any law, as long as their secure; I did it strickly as a precautionary measure. I believe in Murphy's Law.

Stay safe guys.....Carl

Fleetman
March 5, 2011, 10:01 AM
Last year I moved from Texas to Pennsylvania and had to use a commercial mover to move around 100 firearms along with the usual household furnishings and a 1200 lb safe. We discussed the situation with the mover and had to provide a manifest of what was included firearms wise. I also purchased additional insurance. Naturally, they would not carry our 400 lb+ of ammo and reloading stuff. The driver assured me all would be ok but I was worried big time for the four days my stuff was in transit but all arrived fine.

My only issue was the moving company neglected to arrange safe-moving equipment on the Pa end and they manhandled the safe into the house resulting in a small scratch on the door when it slipped off of the way-too-small dolly they tried to use....ended up with a $700 insurance settlement for the scratch. The appraiser said it could be easily repaired by any competent auto body shop for about $100, which is true, but when I asked him about transporting the safe to the body shop, he relented and agreed to the transport charges back and forth thus the $700 settlement.

The ammo and stuff rode in my pick-up. Carry guns were "protected" by small under-seat gun safes for the communist states we had to pass through.

GLShooter
March 5, 2011, 06:31 PM
I would go the pod route if I couldn't haul it myself. I moved from Oklahoma to Arizona once with a 15' truck. It had a bed, a chair, a dresser and some kitchen stuff. The rest was reloading gear and guns. It was completely full. I had enough goodies to outfit the Senola Cartel in there.

I would do it again in a heart beat rather than let a mover touch my stuff.

Greg

NMGonzo
March 5, 2011, 07:07 PM
Welcome to New Mexico.

Enjoy spending all your money in guns and ammo, and wasting the rest.

Nuclear
March 6, 2011, 01:00 AM
I've moved guns & ammo from the People's Democratic State of Chicago (also known as Illinois) to Florida in the trunk of the car I was using to get my 75 pound Lab to Florida. That wasn't too bad, three days in a car with my son and dog, stopped at motels and relatives on the way down. (The movers would not move guns and ammo.)

Fast forward to a few months from now, I'll be moving to Arizona with a lot more guns, ammo, reloading equipment & supplies (including primers!) and a gun safe. I expect to make a road trip with my son and dog again, this time my son will be driving part of the 4 day trip, and my guns will go with me.

My only concern is how much the movers will charge us for the safe, and will they get the right equipment to move it on both ends.

Ala Dan
March 6, 2011, 02:33 PM
Sorry, but I must stay with MY guns and handloading equipment; as I just
don't trust mover's~! :uhoh: ;)

22-rimfire
March 6, 2011, 03:31 PM
My only concern is how much the movers will charge us for the safe, and will they get the right equipment to move it on both ends.

Easy to find out. They charge by the pound. As far as the right equipment, if it can't be moved with a hand truck (regular or appliance), I doubt they will have the right equipment with them. So I would be prepared unless you want your safe man handled.

Once when I moved, I moved a bunch of lumber that I had in my garage. Boy that was a mistake. Afterwards, I figured it cost me more than the lumber cost. The weight issue is important and you have to weigh the costs involved to decide if it is worth it to you.

You can't totally trust movers. If you are concerned about something, transport it yourself or sell it. Of course, you could always ship the firearms to a FFL dealer and pick them up there. I would definitely discuss this with the dealer prior to any shipping.

leadcounsel
March 6, 2011, 03:32 PM
How does a POD compare to say, renting/buying a trailer to tow or renting a Uhaul truck? Talking about price for a cross country move...

nalioth
March 6, 2011, 03:54 PM
You can't totally trust movers. If you are concerned about something, transport it yourself or sell it. Of course, you could always ship the firearms to a FFL dealer and pick them up there. I would definitely discuss this with the dealer prior to any shipping.Why would you do this?

They're your firearms, and you're not trading, selling or giving them away.

You'd have to fill out a 4473 on each of them when picking them up, get a NICS check, be entered into the "buys more than two handguns in a week" program (if one owns more than two handguns), plus whatever Xfer fees might be involved.


. . all for no benefit that I can discern.

22-rimfire
March 6, 2011, 04:04 PM
Just an option. I would move all of the high dollar or sensitive items myself. I have done it before.

The pod idea is interesting. I don't know the procedures involved. But if things stay locked and the way you packed them, it is probably fairly safe.

oneounceload
March 6, 2011, 04:08 PM
When I moved East - I had all of the stuff movers wouldn't take in my pickup. The guns went with the movers - in a box packed and sealed by me, with the contents listed and an additional $25,000 in insurance - they came through just fine. If you ship non-acceptable goods without telling them and there's an issue - like a fire or similar, you won't get a nickel of coverage and they will most likely sue you for a new truck

Take your primers, powder, ammo yourself in your vehicle

oneounceload
March 6, 2011, 04:10 PM
My only concern is how much the movers will charge us for the safe, and will they get the right equipment to move it on both ends.
Easy to find out. They charge by the pound. As far as the right equipment, if it can't be moved with a hand truck (regular or appliance), I doubt they will have the right equipment with them. So I would be prepared unless you want your safe man handled.

They usually have someone come out to do an estimate - show then what is going, get extra insurance for anything worth more than about .60/pound - if they wrap/box it and it gets broken, they pay you for it....if YOU do it, no such luck

22-rimfire
March 6, 2011, 04:13 PM
I would be afraid to list the items. Moving company employees know what is insured and if something happens, it's covered. It's an invitation. I have some firearms that would be VERY difficult to replace. Plus there is no way I could do it as "one box". I am glad that worked for you.

c1ogden
March 6, 2011, 10:18 PM
"I am going to be moving from the peoples Republic of New Jersey to New Mexico..."


TAKE ME WITH YOU!!!
I can't wait to get back to America!

Fleetman
March 7, 2011, 07:38 AM
Like oneounceload, I packed all of my firearms myself in sealed boxes and purchased additional insurance. I accepted responsibility for how I packed them and the moving company knew this...they took the manifest without question There is no way I could have moved all of my firearms myself.

After meeting with the moving company, I was satisfied with my decision....besides, I doubt very seriously if someone could have unloaded the other stuff easily to get to my sealed boxes (total of 9 large boxes) since I supervised where every "special" box went on the truck. I also built a good relationship with the driver and we stayed in touch via cell phone the entire time....he knew a good tip was heading his way if all went as planned. The only real glitch was the scratch on the safe and if the proper safe-moving equipment had been prearranged in Pa, would have never happened. It wasn't the drivers fault but the sister company of the movers that dropped the ball.

To each their own but I doubt the average person is willing/able/comfortable to try to move 94 firearms half way across the country. I guess a rental truck could have been one solution but what happens in the event of a breakdown or worse, an accident and the truck is incapacitated....then you're forced to unload/re-load another. Irreplaceable firearms and our carry guns did stay with us though...nerve-racking to say the least while traveling through the communist state.

The safe and my tools were an additional $150 to move due to the extra weight.

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