A few questions about my new Burris Fullfield


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slowr1der
March 5, 2011, 07:08 PM
So I got my Burris Fullfield II 4.5-14x42 mounted today and attempted to sight it in. I noticed a few weird things right off of the bat. The first ones is the paralax adjustments don't seem anywhere close. However, I know this sometimes happens and it even says in the manual they might be off. I found that with it set on 100 yards the picture was very blurry at 100 yards. If I set it between 50-100 so around where I'd guess 75 is, it seemed to work great at 100. I made a mark here and I guess this is normal.

The next issue and this is the biggest imo. It seems like if I put up or down pressure on the eyepiece it seems like it moves just slightly. It looks like the cross hairs are jumping up and down by doing this even with the rifle 100% still. I'm guessing the cross hairs aren't moving, but the glass in the eye piece making it seem as if the cross hairs are. Now, I've noticed in all of my other scopes if I loosen the eye piece to adjust focus they do this too. However, once I tighten the lock ring down on most of them, it doesn't do it anymore and the eye piece is 100% tight. Since this scope isn't designed like that it doesn't have a lock ring to lock the eye piece down since it's always turning. Anyone else experienced this? Is it going to cause me problems shooting? Should the eye piece be 100% wobble free, or should you be able to move it slightly like this by pushing up and down on it? If any of you guys have this scope could you please let me know?

The other question I have which isn't really particular to this scope is if I adjust the AO will it hit the same poi? Like say I have it sighted in at 100 yards with the ao set on 100 yards. Then I adjust the ao to infinity, or 400 yards, but still shoot at 100 yards, will it shoot to the same spot, or somewhere different?

I tried to sight it in and I'd put 2-3 in the bullseye, then or 3 about 1" high and 1" right. This repeated itself over and over, so I'm not sure if it was something with the scope, or if it was just me not shooting well today.
Thanks guys.

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Hangingrock
March 5, 2011, 10:33 PM
I have not experienced a problem as of yet with the parallax adjustment at 50yds-100yds and 200yds. With the eyepiece focused for my vision I did not notice distortion at the three yard lines mentioned with the parallax adjusted for those ranges.

The eye piece if one exerts a side load there is what feels to be a slight amount of movement.

At 200yds my 10 shot group was just less than one inch that was with Sierra 69Gr Match King, R15, military brass and Winchester SR primers.

The mount is Burris two piece with rear windage adjustment and Burris signature ring with the inserts.

Yesterday Friday was my first opportunity to fire the rifle since mounting the scope a few weeks back.

The Burris warranty is for every so I would contact them.

suzukisam
March 5, 2011, 10:41 PM
my burris has had no problems. Is your eye piece adjusted? Mine is clear even with the paralax out of adjustment.. my 200 yrd groups are also 1"+/-. make sure the eye piece is tight. there should be a lock ring. I had a similar problem with a leupold and the eye piece had just worked loose

Hangingrock
March 5, 2011, 10:51 PM
make sure the eye piece is tight. there should be a lock ring.

There is no locking ring for the eye piece on a Burris FFII series scope.

suzukisam
March 5, 2011, 11:12 PM
you are correct.. I just ran and got mine out and checked it. Yeah for sure if your eye piece is loose take it back..optics will make you pull your hair out. My eye piece is so tight it's even stiff to turn. I was thinking of the leupold. The FFII is a great scope if you even think your having issues, send it back. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/suzukisam967m/ar/SAM_0008.jpg

slowr1der
March 5, 2011, 11:29 PM
Yes, there is no locking ring on the FFII scopes. So for you guys with these scopes, does the eye piece wiggle on yours? Can you see where it makes it look like the cross hairs move when wiggling the eye piece even though it's not actually the cross hairs moving? I have a 3-9 I've never noticed this one, but I've never really payed attention and unfortunately it's not here with me so I can't check it out to compare right now.

slowr1der
March 5, 2011, 11:31 PM
Mine is tight enough to be hard to turn, but it still wiggles up and down slightly. Does yours do this? I may have to send it back, but it kind of ticks me off that a brand new in the box scope is going to have to be sent back, on my dime none the less, and me be without a scope for who knows how long. I may get to see if Burris's service is as bad as some others claim.

That being said, my Burris FFII 3-9 is my favorite scope I've owned which is why I bought this one.

slowr1der
March 5, 2011, 11:41 PM
I should also mention that the eyepiece doesn't feel loose. It's not an obvious wiggle, it's just enough that you can't really feel it, but can see it so it makes it look like the cross hairs are moving. You can also see it slightly if you look where the gap is right past the "magnification ring" part and it's barely moving. I just thought I'd mention this so no one thought it was super loose.

suzukisam
March 6, 2011, 12:12 AM
I didn't notice any movement in mine, but only you know if your having trouble shooting with it. if you can't get the blur out and your vision is fine, then you should probably send it back

slowr1der
March 6, 2011, 12:30 AM
Got it clear and it shot decently as long as I set the paralax adjustment between the 50 and 100 yard mark. This rifle will usually shot .5" groups where as I was shooting around 1.5" groups today, but I can't tell if it was just me or the scope. I was feeling a little rusty. That being said, I just wondered if others wiggled the eye piece while having the rifle held still and looking through it if it looked like the cross hairs moved.

suzukisam
March 6, 2011, 12:32 AM
I will check in the daylight tomorrow and see but it doesn't appear to just looking through it inside

Hangingrock
March 6, 2011, 08:18 AM
This is my first Burris scope so I can’t say what is and is not normal. Like I said the AO adjustment worked for me at 50yds, 100yds, and 200yds. The click adjustments were positive for both elevation and windage. With out additional usage and shooting at longer ranges I can’t say more than I’ve already stated in regards to functionality.

ElPasoCounty
March 6, 2011, 08:42 AM
I have 6 or 7 burris scopes and never had a problem. I've called them to get a new bikini cover for one of my scopes and was surprised to get a human.

If there's a problem with your glass they'll make it right...

slowr1der
March 9, 2011, 10:23 PM
Okay, I called Burris and they are supposed to be sending me a call tag for this scope so I can send it back and have them check it out.

I also want to add that I finally got a chance to check my other FFII 3-9x40 and I noticed this one does the exact same thing. It feels as if the eye piece is pretty tight, but it moves just enough to do this. It's hard to tell on that rifle if the eye piece affects the poi or not as the rifle it's mounted on shoots about 2" groups at 100 yards with ammo it likes. It does that consistently and has with more than just this scope. It doesn't have any problems shooting the same 2" groups the rifle normally will.

With this other 4.5-14x42 I tried it and it's really hard for me to tell if it's me or the rifle. It was shooting about 1.5"-2" groups and the rifle usually has no problem shooting sub moa groups. However, I've had days where 2" is the best I could shoot. I mounted the Nikon back on it and shot it a couple of days later and I shot the sub moa groups I'm used to, but it's really hard for me to tell if it's me or the scope.

I'm really curious to hear if guys that have this scope that shoots well for them could check this out and see if theirs does this. If you guys that have them can check them by locking the rifle down in a vise, or putting it on a bipod or something that holds it really still, then wiggling the eye piece while looking through it and see if it makes it appear the crosshairs are moving. If you guys could do this I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

jbr
March 9, 2011, 10:30 PM
Never missed a deer with mine but can't say i ever tried to shoot Sub 1" groups - i'm not that good - with any scope. Mine seems solid though - have you tried setting it for 100 yards and then turning the eyepiece and see if it gets clear with adjustment.

slowr1der
March 9, 2011, 10:45 PM
Yes, I've gotten it clear and focused. The only thing I'm wondering about now is the slight eye piece wiggle. Any way you could check and see if yours does that?

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