Suppressor noob question


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Ian
March 6, 2011, 10:21 AM
I've been toying with the idea of getting a suppressor for my Savage 10, and I have a total noob question - can a decent suppressor make a .308 quiet enough to shoot without using hearing protection? If I would still need to wear ears with one, I don't think it would be worth the expense.

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BlacklabelOP
March 6, 2011, 10:45 AM
Yes I shoot my .30 cal can on .308 and .223 no ears on.

gary0529
March 6, 2011, 11:24 AM
Absolutely.

All you will hear is the crack of the bullet as it progresses downrange with a supersonic round.
In the case of subsonic ammunition, the silence is deafening. Actually a pop about the sound of snapping the bubble wrap packing.

I shoot through a Gemtech 308 suppressor-mainly 300 Whisper but did have the 308 bolt and 270 bolt threaded to put on the suppressor.
Shoot it that way frequently and never need ear protection IF I am alone on the range.
Greatly reduces recoil as a side benefit.

Gary

AlexanderA
March 6, 2011, 11:58 AM
The only suppressor I've ever owned was the one that came with my FA MAC 11. It reduced the sound of the .380 to about that of a .22. Big deal.

The silencers portrayed in movies, like Clint Eastwood's Where Eagles Dare, are pretty much myths. If you want a silent weapon get a crossbow or an airgun.

kingpin008
March 6, 2011, 02:34 PM
It's home-built (by member PTK) but that's close enough to silent for my tastes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbjXvH7xJA

Also from PTK, a suppressed Nagant revolver. It's at least as quiet, if not moreso, than the chopped-down 10/22.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0

redbullitt
March 7, 2011, 04:54 AM
22 lr with subs through a can is very very quiet. I will go out on a limb and say my mark 2 with subs through an outback 2 is movie quiet. The squirrels hate it hahah.

308 with subs will be very quiet and it will entertain you lol.

The same rifle with supersonics it much less "blasty". yeah that is a technical term. I rarely shoot mine without my suppressor any more. It kills of recoil, blast, and concussion. There really is no reason not too IMHO.

You will be happy with a can on it. I gurantee it.

gary0529
March 7, 2011, 01:20 PM
Not to hijack the thread but kingpin008 how the hell did you get local LEO chief to sign off on a suppressor in the liberal land called Maryland?
It has always been my understanding that Maryland was loath to allow anything firearms related.

Just wondering.

Gary

Zak Smith
March 7, 2011, 01:49 PM
Whether or not it is technically "hearing safe" is up for debate, but full power .308 through a modern suppressor typically meters in the 132-136 dB range. Many people do shoot without extra hearing protection.

kingpin008
March 7, 2011, 03:51 PM
Gary - it's not my gear. Those fun toys (along with quite a few others) belong to another member here who goes by PTK.

That said, NFA goodies are entirely legal here in MD. We have quite a few Class III dealers, in fact. I believe we do have a registration requirement for full-auto stuff, but I'm not entirely sure what it entails, so I won't speculate Maryland is a bit nutty in some regards when it comes to firearms (no CCW, no castle doctrine) but we're much, much less restricted than many of the other "anti" states.

And even if our local LEOs were against such things, that's what trusts are for. :)

animator
March 7, 2011, 06:46 PM
I can safely say that an AAC on the end of an AR-10 with subsonic loads is quieter than a cap gun, and produces recoil at or less than a .22.

AlexanderA
March 8, 2011, 02:57 PM
Not to hijack the thread but kingpin008 how the hell did you get local LEO chief to sign off on a suppressor in the liberal land called Maryland?
It has always been my understanding that Maryland was loath to allow anything firearms related.

Actually, Maryland is relatively NFA-friendly. The CLEO signoff is centralized at the Maryland State Police level, and they're used to this process. I suppose you could alternatively go with a local CLEO signoff, but why bother?

Over here in Virginia, the process is much more spotty. The State Police don't get involved, except for administering the after-the-fact registration. In Fairfax County, the signoff guy is the County Sheriff, and he doesn't have any problems with signing. In Alexandria, however, the CLEO absolutely won't sign.

Mikesull415
March 8, 2011, 03:44 PM
Here's a company near Columbia SC, Innovative Arms, that make some really nice suppressors, with their take on a short barreled suppressed 308

http://www.youtube.com/user/innovativearms#p/search

Dr.Rob
March 16, 2011, 05:37 PM
I just fired a .308 with a ThunderBeast Supressor over the weekend.. with subsonics you'd hear the clang of it hitting steel at 50 yards before you felt the recoil of the shot. Barely notice the sound of it going off. With full power loads there is still a supersonic crack, like a 22. Hearing protection isn't needed, though with all shooting sports hearing damage is cumulative.

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