why 270 winchester?


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brian923
March 6, 2011, 11:09 PM
Hey guys, I'm lookin to change my mauser build from a 284 win, to a more comercial loaded cartridge. I'm thinking 270 win since I already have a 308 savage bolt gun and an M1 in 30-06. Just lookin for some reasons on why I should go 270, what you like about your 270's, or if there's another, better cartridge. Thanks guys, brian.

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CowboyTim
March 6, 2011, 11:26 PM
The .270 Win is a great cartridge. A good .270 with even the inexpensive plain old Federal 130gr ammo(the lowest priced around here) is flat shooting, accurate, and hits a deer like a sledgehammer. Very mild recoil, fun to shoot, with the right bullet will kill anything that walks or crawls in North America. You're going to get a lot of different opinions about what you should build, but it is REALLY hard to go wrong with the .270.

41
March 6, 2011, 11:34 PM
I love my .270 it is flat shooting, and It is more than any kind of animal in my area (South East) can handle and most other lower 48 animals. I disagree about the very mild recoil statement above though. It's not too bad, but to me the perceived recoil is close to my other rifles (308, 300wsm, 30-06, etc)

Frozen North
March 6, 2011, 11:35 PM
.270 Winchester is among the very elite for many different reasons.

1) Bullet/ammo price, availability, and selection.
2) One of the most versatile cartridges on the planet.
3) Flat shooting, hard hitting.
4) Mild recoil for the punch it packs.

I am sure there are more. I have never heard anyone regret choosing a .270 unless the have a case of "magnum fever".

Rancho Relaxo
March 6, 2011, 11:46 PM
If you really had to nitpick about the .270, the only thing I could think of would be that the cartridge is kind of long. I love the .270, it's easy to load for and very rewarding in so many ways.

Geno
March 7, 2011, 12:20 AM
All that needs saying about the .270 Win is this:

130 grain SPBT, over 60 grains of H4831. :cool:

Geno

Picher
March 7, 2011, 05:27 AM
I love my .270 Win, though it reaches it's potential and flexibility by handloading. I use a lot of 90 Grain Sierra bullets with mild doses of IMR 4895 for relatively comfortable informal target shooting. They shoot to the same POI as my heavier loads, which is quite unusual in the shooting game, but a trait the .270 Win seems to have over other cartridges. Sighted in at about 240 yards, it's within 3" of POI out to 320 yards, using relatively hot 130 grain boat-tailed Ballistic Tip type handloads. That's important, especially if you hunt where deer are crossing woods roads at varied distances and you don't have much time to decide holdover.

The .30-06 is more flexible, due to the vast array of .308 bullets available as either loaded ammo or for handloading. Several of us used 125 grain bullets for woodchucks, 150-165 grainers for deer and 180 grain for very large deer or moose. I've never even thought of using 220 grain bullets in Maine. IMHO, moose aren't that tough. That said, I wish I'd chosen the .270 Win instead of the .30-06 earlier.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
March 7, 2011, 06:33 AM
I dropped my first and only bear with a 270 using handloads, I had just started getting into handloading and got him on opening day.

One shot to the neck and it was all over for him. 130 grain Hornady soft point spire.

BoilerUP
March 7, 2011, 08:22 AM
For many, the 270 Winchester is boring.

"Boring" mean its cheap, widely available, been around a long time, versatile, shoots flatter than nearly all non-magnum chamberings and isn't being pushed by gun writers today.

My first deer rifle was a Savage 110 in .270, that I received 17 years ago this August on my 11th birthday; killed my first buck with it on my father's birthday. I shelved it in my late high school & college years for a 30-06 but started shooting it again in early 2008. Two years ago, I couldn't get it to shoot 130gr Ballistic Tips & Varget handloads (while having great success with a 30-06 and 260) and last year the rifle quit shooting factory 130gr Core-Lokts to the point that I didn't trust it to hunt with. This winter I decided to try one last hurrah before changing the barrel so I replaced the stock, changed the scope, cleaned the bore like a mother and exhausted my BT collection trying 4831SC, finding it likes hotter loads. I'll be trying 140gr Sierra HPBT Gamekings next, and am contemplating trying 150gr Gamekings or NBTs though that much bullet probably isn't "necessary" for KY whitetail.

GooseGestapo
March 7, 2011, 08:57 AM
Why?
Why spend the money to alter a perfectly good rifle?
1. Learn to reload... Anything that can be said for the .270 can be said of the .284wcf.
For the price of a new barrel installed (a quality barrel), you can get enough equipment and componenets to set you for many years of hunting.
2. Buy a used rifle in .270 or .30/06; A local pawn shop has a used Marlin XL7 in .270. I can get it for $275 out-the-door. It has a "cheapy" scope and a sling. I imagine that add a box of ammo and you could sight in and hunt an entire season with just a single box of ammo......

roc1
March 7, 2011, 11:54 AM
I agree with Geno. I shot a load of 55gr H4831 under Sierra 130gr ProHunters it shot almost one hole.
roc1

ADKWOODSMAN
March 7, 2011, 12:03 PM
You can't go wrong with the .270 Winchester. I have been using one for over 50 years!

Love the 140 Hornady's for deer and black bear.

longdayjake
March 7, 2011, 12:28 PM
I am not a .270 fan. Its fine but there is better out there for hunting. So, with that said, can I have your 284 barrel?

NeuseRvrRat
March 7, 2011, 12:34 PM
question should be "why not .270 win?"

D*N*R*
March 7, 2011, 01:01 PM
My next deer rifle will be a 25 06. Same wind drift as my 270-same bullet drop-just less kick and a slightly lighter wack. Still more than it takes. My second choise would be another 270 win.

DirtyHarry31
March 7, 2011, 03:21 PM
270 win with a 130 gr. Balistic point BT (nosler) with a 26" barrel (my Remington Sendero) has a muzzle velocity of just over 3000 (3024 to be exact) with factory loads. That puts it in the "magnum" range. You can reload heavier bullets for bigger game (180 gr.) & lighter ones (65 gr.) for ground hogs. As for recoil the Sendero weighs in @ 18 lbs. with a Burris Black Diamond 8-32 x 50, base & rings (warne) and has a very mild recoil but dead nuts accurate. What more could you ask for. The bullets also have great balistic coeffeicy which comes with the fact the bullet diameter, .277 is .0016 larger the 7mm (.2756 decimal). Don't say a .280 (actually .284) is a true 7mm. That more like a 7.2mm (.2835 decimal).

longdayjake
March 7, 2011, 04:10 PM
The bullets also have great balistic coeffeicy which comes with the fact the bullet diameter, .277 is .0016 larger the 7mm (.2756 decimal). Don't say a .280 (actually .284) is a true 7mm. That more like a 7.2mm (.2835 decimal).

Um. Anything labelled 7mm is actually .284. Which is larger in diameter than the .277 of the .270 bullets. Also, the 7mm bullets of the same weight usually (if not always) have a little better BC.

brnmuenchow
March 7, 2011, 04:23 PM
Absolutely love my Winchester Model 70. (.270win.) It has a flat trajectory, sufficient power, and the recoil is perfect for quick follow-up shots. The ammo can be inexpensive to expensive depending on how much you are willing to spend. I personally use either the 150gr. power point Winchester "super-x" loads or Blackhills "Gold" 130gr. Barnes Triple-shock loads.

heeler
March 7, 2011, 04:31 PM
Not a thing is wrong with the .270.
I hunted with one for years before it was stolen in a home burglary.
Hard hitting,flat shooting,and is in the top three or four of the most easily found ammo and is available practically anywhere.
The only reason I no longer use a .270 is because I now walk hunt and prefer a shorter carbine style short action rifle such as my Remington 600 in .308.

dtvburns
March 7, 2011, 04:36 PM
I asked the same question and ended up with a 270 Wetherby mag. I like the way that round shoots the best. I am good with it off hand too which soots my style of hunting the mid day. I have never had to chase down anything I shot with it. Look at 270 WSM while you are at it to.

cprher
March 7, 2011, 04:46 PM
I recently bought a Win Model 70 Super Grade made in 1949 for my buddy. With Winchester 140 grain Silver Tip he recently shot a 300yd group of 1/2" X 3/4". Needless to say, he was shocked at the gun's (and his) performance. Not typical I'm sure but impressive none the less.

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