NJ: Sponsor of gun bill won't pull trigger yet (>.50" ban withdrawn)


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Kharn
January 6, 2004, 12:09 PM
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Sponsor of gun bill won't pull trigger yet

Friday, FRED J. AUN

BY FRED J. AUN For the Star-Ledger

A proposed new law that could have banned the sale or purchase of many muzzleloading rifles and the possession of many shotguns is being pulled from the state Legislature calendar and will not be introduced, said its sponsor.

Assemblywoman Loretta Weinberg (D-Bergen) said concerns expressed by hunters is prompting her to yank bill A-3942 less than a month after its introduction. As of Wednesday, the state Legislature Web site listed the bill as remaining active, but Weinberg said she "pulled the bill off the agenda."

"I do not plan to push this bill at this time because I think there are some questions," the assemblywoman said.

The state Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs was among the groups that came out against the bill, which was co-sponsored by state Assemblywoman Nellie Pou (D-Passaic) and introduced Dec. 11. The federation said the bill, as written, was "directly aimed at New Jersey big game hunters, re-enactors and muzzleloader enthusiasts."

In essence, the bill would have classified weapons of 50 caliber or greater as being illegal "destructive devices." Currently, the definition of those devices involves weapons of 60 caliber or greater.

An Assembly committee amended the original bill to provide exemptions for sportsmen and gun hobbyists. Antique guns were removed from the list of banned devices and people who lawfully possessed guns of 50 caliber or greater before the bill's date were also exempted.

But George Howard, the federation's conservation director (and a member of the state Fish and Game Council), said loopholes remained. He said his reading of the bill led him to believe it would have barred the future sale, disposal and use of more than 90 percent of the muzzleloaders and many of the shotguns -- those with rifled barrels -- in use by New Jersey sportsmen to hunt bear. A 20-gauge shotgun measures about 61 caliber and a 12-gauge shotgun is about 70 caliber.

In a Christmas Eve "legislative alert," Howard alleged the bill "was rushed through the committee just immediately after New Jersey's highly publicized first black bear hunt in 30 years." Weinberg said she is not against hunting and insisted the bear hunt had nothing to do with it. She said she was asked -- by some of her staffers -- to sponsor the bill as an anti-terrorism measure.

"The way I understand it, there were certain kinds of large-caliber guns that are not used for hunting, and one bullet from them can blast a lot of people or a lot of things," the legislator said.

"It was designed to make sure those guns are not sold in New Jersey. ... But because there were some legitimate questions raised, I did not push this and it certainly is not going to get pushed through in the next session."

Howard said New Jersey's sportsmen must always stay on top of action in Trenton.

"These people are going to keep coming at us and they will use any means they can," he said, referring to anti-hunting groups. "Legislation is a big thing for us now --both answering the attacks and getting legislation passed that's favorable to sportsmen."

Fred J. Aun covers the outdoors for The Star Ledger. He can be reached at outdoors@starledger.com.

Looks like the sponsor finally figured out how dumb the proposed law was.

Kharn

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Thumper
January 6, 2004, 12:19 PM
"The way I understand it, there were certain kinds of large-caliber guns that are not used for hunting, and one bullet from them can blast a lot of people or a lot of things," the legislator said.

Those of you who claim that profanity is the refuge of the inarticulate are wrong.

What begs to be said about this cretin is definitely unprintable.

These imbeciles wallow in their ignorance and wear it with an idiot's pride.

geekWithA.45
January 6, 2004, 12:44 PM
She wanted to ban the evil satellite killing .50 bmg, and got caught in her ignorance by not pandering to the hunters.

When she realized she _was_ after their hunting rifles, she backpedaled in a hurry.

whoami
January 6, 2004, 03:03 PM
Looks like the sponsor finally figured out how dumb the proposed law was.

Loretta Weinberg? Not likely.....I think the more likely senario is that once the tripe was laid bare, and she wouldn't be able to push the bill through and then claim 'It was never intended to do that', she found the political cost of pushing the bill vs. backlash from hunters too high.

What's worse is how many of those hunters who would punish her for this bill:
A) Are in her district and voted for her.
B) Applaud her for her vote on the smart gun bill.
C) Support the reauth of the AWB

50 Shooter
January 6, 2004, 05:04 PM
Wait until they make it just .50 BMG, let's see how many hunters will raise a stink then. :barf:

Standing Wolf
January 6, 2004, 05:49 PM
"The way I understand it, there were certain kinds of large-caliber guns that are not used for hunting, and one bullet from them can blast a lot of people or a lot of things," the legislator said.

She needs to be fired.

Nightfall
January 6, 2004, 06:42 PM
"The way I understand it, there were certain kinds of large-caliber guns that are not used for hunting, and one bullet from them can blast a lot of people or a lot of things," the legislator said.

These are the people we let legislate away our freedoms? These blankety blanking bleeping bleepers are in charge of our nation?

:cuss:

Justin
January 6, 2004, 06:48 PM
In a word? Yes.

Bottom line: There are a lot of people serving in various state and federal level houses of Congress who are much dumber than you or I.

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