Choice for entry level 30-06


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tackleberry45
March 7, 2011, 10:02 PM
OK, so I have been talked out of the "package" deals as described by the responses I received in that thread below. So of the entry level rifle candidates, what would be the choice?

- Savage Axis
- Weatherby Vanguard
- Savage Stevens
- T/C
- other ??

Is there a manufacturer I should stay away from for customer serivce issues ( I avoid Taurus like the plague due to bad experiences) I am leaning toward the Weatherby.

I have a Redfield 3-9 X 50 scope already.

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Frozen North
March 7, 2011, 10:09 PM
Avoid Remington 710 and 770 like a disease. I believe the 710 is out of production, but a few may have survived for sale used.

Anything you have listed will beat these two rifles by leaps and bounds.

mcole
March 7, 2011, 10:11 PM
savage

A-FIXER
March 7, 2011, 10:12 PM
Weatherby, but they say T/C is good as well. Yes I have 3 vanguards/howa.

courtgreene
March 7, 2011, 10:14 PM
Weatherby and Stevens are both great... I like Taurus so you may not want my opinion.

Abel
March 7, 2011, 10:14 PM
The Ruger Hawkeye is a great entry level rifle.

PcolaDawg
March 7, 2011, 10:20 PM
My first 30-06 (okay, my ONLY 30-06) was a Browning A Bolt composite.

I actually got it from my boss as a Christmas present about 11 years ago. I don't think I'll ever need another one. :cool:

CowboyTim
March 7, 2011, 10:21 PM
Stevens 200, already really good for the cash and lots of aftermarket parts out there to customize later.

ScottieRussell
March 7, 2011, 10:24 PM
I'd also vote for the Stevens.

Z-Michigan
March 7, 2011, 10:33 PM
Savage Axis or the Weatherby Vanguard (Howa), and flip a coin between those two.

The Stevens would also be OK but the above are better.

Nothing really wrong with the TC either, but I would favor the above.

jsj127
March 7, 2011, 10:38 PM
From those you listed my order of preference would be
1. TC Venture
2. Other Marlin XL7
3. Weatherby Vanguard
4. Savage/Stevens
5. Savage Axis
I have two ventures really like them both. My sons girlfriend has the marlin xs7y in 308 it's a tack driver for a $320 rifle. I've had a couple different vanguards, good rifles the barrels just heated up really quick. Which is fine for hunting but a pain playing at the range. As far as savage goes, I know they're good accurate rifles but for some reason I just can't get excited about them.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
March 7, 2011, 10:40 PM
The TC Venture is light years ahead of all those others listed by a factor of x1000.

Its stupid accurate--you don't even have to think about it--it sub-MOA groups any crap load I feed it.

slowr1der
March 7, 2011, 10:49 PM
My opinion is the Savage Model 10 or 110 if you get a long action package they sell at Walmart for $387-397 depending on which Walmart. It comes with a Simmons or Bushnell scope depending on which they put on it when it was made. IMO this is a much better deal than the Axis/Edge because it's not much more, and not only do you get a much better quality rifle that is a lot easier to change barrels on, but you also get the famous accu trigger which is great.

redactor
March 7, 2011, 11:00 PM
I have the TC Venture and the Savage. Get the TC.

BoilerUP
March 8, 2011, 08:57 AM
Stevens. The Weatherby Vanguard is a fine rifle, but price point relative to performance, its hard to beat the value of a Stevens 200 (especially since its like the SOPMOD for the bolt-action crowd, super-easy to modify for anything from short-barrel tactical rig to F-class competition rifle and everything in between).

bailer
March 8, 2011, 09:01 AM
Tikka. Cheezy look and feel, but the Superlite 06 I just picked up flat out shoots. I've never before had a rifle come out of the box and shoot sub moa with factory ammo. The load it didn't like, Hornady Superperformance 165grn GMX, went .81". It only got better from there... Next time to the range I'm going to bring a couple Garand Clips of CMP 06 and see if it will group those into an moa.

petrey10
March 8, 2011, 09:25 AM
go with the Stevens 200... if you ever want to upgrade some stuff on it later you will be way better off with the Stevens 200.... its a savage 110 without the accutrigger and some people don't like the accutrigger anyway.... so get the Stevens 200 add a SSS competition trigger and you will have a great shooting gun


BTW I have a Stevens 200 25-06 and it is amazing... I am now in the process of upgrading it...

txhoghunter
March 8, 2011, 12:15 PM
Savage, either axis or stevens

Arkansas Paul
March 8, 2011, 03:56 PM
Weatherby Vanguard gets my vote. I love mine.
It's the only one I personally have though, so my opinion is rather limited. If I was in the market for another hunting rifle, I'd buy another in a minute though. My only knock is that it's a little on the heavy side.

blackops
March 8, 2011, 04:45 PM
Howa w/hogue stock

NovaRey1911
June 15, 2011, 05:03 AM
i own the savage axis and its sweet especially the price!!!! 345 out the door cant beat it! have put over 700 rounds through it havent had one problem

Hunterdad
June 15, 2011, 06:10 AM
Marlin XL7. Best bang for your buck, IMHO.

foghornl
June 15, 2011, 07:01 AM
I have a Mossberg ATR-100 in .30-06 I bought in (IIRC) 2004. I have a Simmons "Blazer" series 3-9 x 50 scope on it. In MY hands with most commercial (read as cheap Rem Core-Lokt) soft-point hunting ammo, well under 2" @ 100 Yds.

Shooting Budd with much steadier and younger hands/eyes than me got a smidge under 0.7" @100Yds 5 shots with Federal "Gold Medal Match" ammo. {very slow-fire aprox 1 - 2 minutes between shots..havent tested with 5 shots as fast as bolt could be worked and resighted}

Sav .250
June 15, 2011, 07:56 AM
Everybody has an opinion.........mines the Savage.

Sheepdog1968
June 15, 2011, 10:14 AM
Any reason you don't have Winchester 70s or Rem 700 or Ruger Hawkeye's on the list? They are timeless classics? These would be the three I'd consider. If its money, I'd just save for a bit longer. It will last you a lifetime.

BrocLuno
June 15, 2011, 11:29 AM
Mossberg 4x4, Marlin XL7, Howa, and the beat goes on.

A bazillion sporterized mil-surps - take your pick. Look at any used gun rack or pawn shop and there will be three or four 06's.

Tikka T3 Hunter if you can find it and afford it. Smoothest action I have every handled and very accurate. Same smooth and even better built - Sako :)

Biggest part of the deal is to get one that actually fits you? One that comes to shoulder well and lands your cheek where the scope needs to be.

bigedp51
June 15, 2011, 12:08 PM
I always thought the Remington 700 was the best rifle on the market, and the Savage rifles were just plane fugly.

I recently sold off some milsurps to start a new modern battery of rifles that were more forgiving with someone with chronologically gifted eyesight. And as a side note I have owned five Remington 700 in the past.

Below one of two Stevens 200 and a Remington 700 bought within the last three months. The new 700 had one locking lug that was barely touching and was not as accurate as the two Stevens out of the box. And I had to lap the lugs on the Remington to get them to bare evenly.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP7358.jpg

Below the Savage/Stevens floating bolt head that always has both locking lugs touching evenly.


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP6477-a.jpg

My favorite deer rifle for hunting in the woods will always be my 30-30 Winchester Trapper model. And I'm 60 years old and I waited far too long to buy the fugly Stevens rifles that have been the most accurate rifles out of the box I have ever owned.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP7237.jpg

And like my Lee Enfield rifles you can adjust head space "AND" change barrels by loosening a simple nut.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP6475.jpg

For under $250.00 you can get a Stevens 200 and have the fugliest and most accurate rifle you can get at the best price.

And all your questions about Savage/Stevens can be answered below. ;)
(and more people are customizing these rifles and shooting them in competition than you ever thought)

http://http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/

Effigy
June 15, 2011, 12:58 PM
I agree Savage makes a great out of box rifle for a reasonable price. I don't really understand the opinion that they're ugly though. They look like any other bolt action with the synthetic stock IMO, and the fit and finish is great (on my Model 10 anyway).

bigedp51
June 15, 2011, 01:13 PM
Effigy

I don't really understand the opinion that they're ugly though.

A Mauser purest might turn up their noses because of the non-classic lines and in the past I have heard people say they did not like the looks. To me with all my milsurps from different countries looks does not matter.

All that really matters is how many fliers you have at 100 yards, darn look two fliers from a fugly rifle. :eek:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/range-day-2-1.jpg

"Only accurate rifles are interesting." ;)

DIM
June 15, 2011, 01:33 PM
Stevens would most economical choice and with barrel nut you can change barrel if you find its barrel has problem, I have older Savage 111 in 270 WIN which is identical to Stevens in every way, even trigger is the same, it shoots small groups less then 0.5", few days ago I shot 0.24"@100.

skoro
June 15, 2011, 02:13 PM
I got a Weatherby Vanguard in 30-06 three years ago. No regrets. It's a fine rifle for a very reasonable price.

sansone
June 15, 2011, 03:59 PM
Marlin XL7. Best bang for your buck, IMHO.
absolutely !!
cheap, accurate, adjustable trigger, Marlin

Hunterdad
June 15, 2011, 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by Hunterdad
Marlin XL7. Best bang for your buck, IMHO.

absolutely !!
cheap, accurate, adjustable trigger, Marlin

I'm surprised only 2 of us recommended the Marlin. Here is my XS7 in .308 with a Boyds stock and Weaver glass. It will shoot an inch at 100yds all day long.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r197/adam11082/DSCF0975.jpg

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