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alan
January 6, 2004, 06:26 PM
I hardly ever smoke anymore, used to though, so perhaps I'm "neutral". Other than that, readers might find aspects of the following that transcend, by quite a bit, the boo-ra-ha over smoking, in what are often described as "public places" or "public spaces". Read on, and draw your own conclusions.

January 6, 2004


Harm's a Two Way Street
by Walter E. Williams

Walter E. Williams, the John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University, is an adjunct scholar with the Cato Institute.

The largest losers of America's anti-tobacco crusade aren't tobacco companies and smokers, it's the American people who are incrementally giving up private property rights. You say, "Hold it, Williams, I agree that people have the right to smoke and harm themselves, but they don't have the right to harm others with those noxious tobacco fumes!" Let's look at it, because harm is a two way street.

If you're allergic to tobacco smoke or just find its odor unpleasant, and I smoke in your presence, I harm and annoy you. However, if I'm prohibited from smoking a cigarette in your presence, I'm harmed because of a denial of what I find a pleasurable experience.

There's an obvious conflict. One of us is harmed. How can it be resolved? There are several ways. You might consider the harm I suffer trivial compared to yours. You could organize a sufficiently large number of people and lobby lawmakers to enact smoking bans in bars, restaurants and workplaces. Alternatively, I might consider the harm you suffer trivial, and organize a bunch of people and lobby lawmakers to mandate that smoking be permitted in bars, restaurants and workplaces.

Let's think about this for a moment. If you owned a restaurant, and did not allow smoking, wouldn't you find it offensive if a law were enacted requiring you to permit smoking? I'm guessing you'd deem such a law tyranny. After all, you'd probably conclude, it's your restaurant, and if you don't want smoking it's your right. Similarly, I'd deem it just as offensive if smoking were allowed in my restaurant and a law were enacted banning smoking in restaurants.

The totalitarian method to resolve the conflict is through political power and guns. In other words, the group with the greatest power to organize government's brute force decides whether there'll be smoking or no smoking in restaurants. Totalitarians might justify their actions by claiming that bars, restaurants and workplaces deal with the public, and thus the public should decide how they'll be used. That's nonsense. Just because an establishment deals with the public doesn't make it public property.

The liberty-oriented method to resolve conflict is through the institution of private property. In fact, conflict resolution is one of the primary functions of private property, namely it decides who gets to decide how what property is used in what way. Put another way: Who may harm whom in what ways? In a nutshell, private property rights have to do with rights held by an owner to keep, acquire and use property in ways so long as he doesn't interfere with similar rights held by another. Private property rights also include the right to exclude others from use of property.

Under the liberty-oriented method of private property, as a means to conflict resolution, we'd ask the question of ownership. If the owner wishes his restaurant to be smoke-free, it is his right. Whether a smoker is harmed or inconvenienced by not being allowed to smoke in his restaurant is irrelevant. Similarly, if a restaurant owner wishes to permit smoking, it is his right, and whether a nonsmoker is harmed or annoyed is also irrelevant. In the interest of minimizing possible harm either way, it might be appropriate for restaurant owners, by way of a sign or other notice, to inform prospective customers of their respective smoking policy. That way, customers can decide whether to enter upon the premises.

In today's America, the successful anti-tobacco campaign has become a template for conflict resolution through the forceful imposition of wills through the political system. It's part of a continuing trend of attacks on private property rights. Private property rights are the bulwark for liberty, and should be jealously guarded and not be sacrificed for the sake of expediency.

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7.62FullMetalJacket
January 6, 2004, 08:41 PM
I have a serious problem with the direction we have taken as a country. Private property rights must be respected. One of the reasons I fled the PRK.

I am leaving PRK after a visit. A local convenience store which I frequented was burglarized. What did the burglars take? Not the booze on the shelves. Not the twinkies or the fruit pies. Not beer or gatorade. They stole 50 cartons of cigarettes. The rising taxes have created a black market, apparently. It is now worth the risk of burglarizing to obtain cigarrettes.

They are going after fast food, or more specifically, "obesity." Nothing like government edicts to prevent that

:rolleyes:

And they are after your guns. They are making it an underground cult, limiting choices, and making purchases very inconvenient. Moreover, the courts are involved in the ongoing assault on the manufacturers.

When I have to get a permit to install a dishwasher, or a wooden fence, or get permission to paint my house, then my rights have been infringed. I voted with my feet.

Andrew Rothman
January 6, 2004, 10:15 PM
If you're allergic to tobacco smoke or just find its odor unpleasant, and I smoke in your presence, I harm and annoy you. However, if I'm prohibited from smoking a cigarette in your presence, I'm harmed because of a denial of what I find a pleasurable experience.

Unmitigated bullhockey.

As any libertarian will tell you, your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

The smoke is that fist.

The most amazing thing is that OSHA ignores the harm of secondhand smoke to employees. They certainly regulate much less harmful substances in the workplace!

Here in Minnesota (except for a few cities), there are smoking/nonsmoking areas in restaurants. The separation is rarely adequate. I end up going home with a headache and smelly clothes. This is in addition to tar and carcinogens in my lungs.

I tend to vote with my feet -- I avoid such places in the future and gleefully visit 100% smoke-free restaurants (Famous Dave's, Sidney's, etc.)

True public places though -- courthouses, for example, had better damn well be smoke-free, as I do not have the choice to stay out.

As far as government regulation is concerned, all I'd like to see is some consistency. Since alcohol and tobacco are allowed, there is no reasonable cause to ban marijuana, mushrooms or coca leaves.

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