Difference between the MACs?


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TheHighRoadDude
March 12, 2011, 01:01 AM
Just curious what the difference between the macs are if someone could sum it up for me?

Thanks
The HighRoadDude

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mwcharger
March 12, 2011, 01:06 AM
Mac 10 = .45 cal
Mac 11= 9mm
Mac12 (?can't remember for sure what the model # was) = .380

TheHighRoadDude
March 12, 2011, 01:08 AM
So its just the difference in calibers?

I thought maybe it had something to do with physical size?

Carter
March 12, 2011, 02:50 AM
http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/ingram-mac-m10-and-m11-e.html

That should help out a little. There tends to be decent info on there. Plus its just fun to browse.

LiquidTension
March 12, 2011, 10:03 AM
So far as I can remember, the M10 is available in 9x19 and .45acp. The M11 was made in 9x19 and .380. The M10 is blockier, having a taller and shorter form factor than the M11. I went with the M11/9 when I bought a subgun. Only regret I have is that I had to sell it :( Put a Lage upper on the 9mm or .45 guns and it puts the guns a step above the Uzi, IMO. In their stock forms they're just a fun way to turn money into noise unless you spend a considerable amount of time practicing. I think mine in stock form was running around 1400rpm. The Lage dropped that down to 900, added rails for optics and vert grips, and improved controllability. Best way to get into full auto if you ask me.

TheHighRoadDude
March 12, 2011, 02:49 PM
Yes I would only consider a MAC if it had the Lage Slow fire upper. I have seen some videos on youtube with the Lage stuff on them, rate of fire looks good, you can add attachments and stuff to... Not to mention that 9mm isn't that expensive, and .22lr conversions would be nice to..

It wouldn't be my dream M16 lower... But might suffice.

Seems like a decent way to own a FA and not break the bank.

nalioth
March 12, 2011, 02:51 PM
Mac 10 = .45 cal
Mac 11= 9mm
Mac12 (?can't remember for sure what the model # was) = .380No, the MAC-10 came in .45 ACP and 9mm

The MAC-11 came along and was offered in 9mm and .380

There is no MAC-12

kingpin008
March 12, 2011, 04:29 PM
Are there any videos that show the difference in ROF between the stock configuration and with the Lage slowfire upper installed? I'm not super familiar with MACs, and it'd be interesting to see the difference.

Quiet
March 12, 2011, 06:08 PM
MAC (Military Armament Corporation) was the first company that made John Ingram's M-10 submachine gun. Which caused the Ingram M-10 to be commonly called a MAC-10.

The Ingram M-10 was made in 9x19mm and .45ACP.
The Ingram M-11 was made in .380ACP.

Several years later, SWD took the M-11 design and modified it to create the M-11/9 in 9x19mm.

Other firearm manufacturers also produced the M-10 & M-11 in varying configurations in both (open bolt & closed bolt) semi-auto only and (open bolt) select-fire.

One of those manufacturers made what they called the MAC-12, which was a semi-auto only pistol variant of the M-11 in .380ACP.

ramis
March 12, 2011, 07:46 PM
Are there any videos that show the difference in ROF between the stock configuration and with the Lage slowfire upper installed? I'm not super familiar with MACs, and it'd be interesting to see the difference.


http://www.max-11.com/ Click on the link to the video page.

TheHighRoadDude
March 15, 2011, 12:14 AM
Where are the best places to begin looking for class III stuff??

jmorris
March 15, 2011, 08:51 AM
Quiet got it right. If you just want to get past the sticker shock go to subguns.com and look in the NFA section.

GrimmLV
March 15, 2011, 01:01 PM
Where are the best places to begin looking for class III stuff??

Sturmgewehr (http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi)

Subguns (http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/?db=nfafirearms&category=All+Items+in+this+Category&query=category&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=headlines&website=&language=&session_key=)

rodinal220
March 16, 2011, 11:53 AM
Here is a little primer on MACs:

http://www.firearmsid.com/Feature%20Articles/012001/Mac10History.htm

TheHighRoadDude
March 16, 2011, 12:23 PM
That was a good read, thanks.

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