pull through cleaning rod question?


March 12, 2011, 01:39 AM
i bought an otis ar15 pull through for 25 bucks alittle cheaper then otis, but after about 6 passes in the bore the coating is ripped off about a inch long in two spots, anybody else ever have a similar problem? the exposed steel now shows were its supposed to be rubber i dont want to damage my bore using this gunslick, and i cant believe how wuick it wore through, i would hope the otis one would last a few years

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March 12, 2011, 02:06 AM
I suspect one or both of the following:
-You may have used a solvent that weakened the cable coating.
-You may be pulling the cable through the action or out the muzzle in such a way that you are damaging the coating.

I have never had problems with the Otis cable.

March 12, 2011, 10:55 AM
just hoppes solvent

March 12, 2011, 11:09 AM
Otis has a lifetime guarantee on everything they sell. Go to their web site and call them. Also when you use a Otis, be sure and pull it straight out. Don't allow it to rub or contact the bore. I still use a bore guide, even with the otis pull through.

March 12, 2011, 11:19 AM
mines gunslick

March 12, 2011, 12:20 PM
"mines gunslick"
Therein lies the problem. Otis is very high quality. Gunslick?

March 12, 2011, 02:32 PM
Never used a gunslick, but Ive had my Otis system for the AR for years now, and it still works like new, with no visible signs of wear on the cables or their coatings.

March 12, 2011, 03:04 PM
Got the Otis system and works great on my Garands and M14's to clean from breech to muzzle. 3 years and still working fine.

March 12, 2011, 04:30 PM
I have a couple Dewey cables, an Otis kit and several Bore Snakes, no problems with any of them using M-Pro 7 bore cleaner.

Technically, these things are "cleaning cables" not "cleaning rods".

March 12, 2011, 09:50 PM
I have not cleaned my Garand bore in years. I was always scared I might damage it. But there comes a time when you've gotta cry BS and do something. I think it's that time now. I Think what I'm going to do is screw the cables and boresnakes and get me a muzzle end bore guide and using my fiber glass rod, clean it by shoveing the rod gentle down the muzzle, putting a patch on and pulling it through with the first patch soaked in Deatons Deep Clean, which is the best copper cleaner I've ever used. It will remove the carbon which covers the copper and makes it darned near impossible to remove. Then it will soak into the copper and release it from the bore. The second patch comes out dark blue. Then I put another patch through again soaked with Deaton's and let it sit about 15minutes. Then push clean patches through til they come out clean. After about five patches I like to spray one with Rem Oil or Breakfree and run it through. Then proceed with the clean patches again until they come out clean. In my SS barrels this is almost immediately, but with chrome moly barrels it takes about twice as many patches.

Believe me, if you want to safely get rid of copper, Deaton's Deep Clean is the best and fastest one I have ever seen. I can clean a bore with shooter's Choice or Hoppe's Copper cleaners and push patches till they come out clean. Then push a patch with Deaton's on it and it will come out dark blue, in other words full of copper again. However, the opposite is not true. I have used Deaton's and pushed the patches til they come out clean, then followed with a treatment of the other, and not picked up any copper. Deatons is on the net under Deaton's Gun Care Products. Try it, you might like it. Be careful it has lots of ammonia though. However it won't damage your bore because it has lubricants in it that keep your bore from rusting up. Dont get me wrong here, I don't work for these people, or profit inn anyway from their product, but I'm plenty excited about it since I've tried it, experimenting with it and now i use it for all my bore cleaning. It not only gets copper but seems to clean everything from my bores. Just spreading the word.

March 13, 2011, 12:20 PM
Another good experience with the Otis kit. Had mine for a few years now, no problems thus far. Best cleaning device I know of for those pesky .22LR repeaters (like the Marlin M-60 & Ruger 10/22) that preclude normal cleaning from the breach. I purchased mine on clearance from Dicks; IIRC it was $15 for a .17cal rifle cable, .22cal rifle cable, .22cal pistol cable, carrying case, fiber-optic bore "light", and various attachments/accessories.


March 13, 2011, 02:03 PM
My Otis cables show no damage, and I'm not particularly careful about dragging them on edges while I haul them through.
I suppose that if I tried to drag one through with the breech closed it might damage the coating, and some feedramps have a sharp bottom edge ... but if your is falling apart after a few uses you either bought junk (and should contact the company) or you're doing it wrong (and should contact the company).

I bought the Otis kit mostly for guns that wouldn't let me get the rod/jag in from the breech, but I've started using it for most bore cleaning, it lets me do the bore quick and then devote attention to what actually matters - the moving parts.
I do not understand the obsession with a spotless bore, just get the fouling out and then ensure the moving parts will continue to move properly.

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