[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Lets play a game!

In this game the goal is to ID the last gun posted, the rules are simple.
1. Identify the last gun posted
2. If you have successfully ID'ed the last posted gun and the poster verifies, it becomes your turn to post a gun.
3. No posting out of turn
4. Pictures only except for hints if people are having a hard time figuring it out.
5. Have fun!

I'll go first, lets see if you can ID this! :evil:

http://i56.tinypic.com/10dfn9h.jpg

[NG VI]

It's like a hideous corruption of the Webley Autorevolver. I have no idea, I will have to cheat (google images!) this one

[bannockburn]

It looks like a copy (Spanish?) of a Mauser Model 1878 "Zig-Zag" revolver.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

It is spanish.

[Vyacheslav]

Zulacia automatic revolver

[straybullet]

A Warner Infallible .32?

[straybullet]

Nevermind on the Warner it wasn't a revolver..

[B yond]

HA! finally found a pic of this on google images and it was for THIS THREAD!

[ShroomFish]

It appears to be in the family as the Union Firearms Automatic revolver

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Zulacia automatic revolver

You are correct, your turn now.

[Vyacheslav]

http://benjaminwhitmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cub268_z_f1_h-tfb.jpg

[Sixgun86]

Jarre Harmonica.

This one shouldn't be difficult.

[Cosmoline]

It's a Jarre harmonica pistol. Dangit I was out-drawn by a second.

The next is a Mateba autorevolver. Model 6 Unica

[neededausername]

Mateba Model 6 Unica

[Sixgun86]

Correct, your turn.

Only took one minute.

[Cosmoline]

Who won? I don't know if my edit actually beat neededausername

[neededausername]

I don't know who won but feel free to go ahead Cosmoline.

[Sixgun86]

I guess the first one to post the next picture of the unknown will be the winner. lol.

[neededausername]

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7509/gungy.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/gungy.jpg/)

I gave Cosmo a few minutes, and he didn't post so I went ahead to keep the game going.

[Cal-gun Fan]

Neostead 2000

[neededausername]

correct.

[Shadow 7D]

Or is that the KT version?

[Cal-gun Fan]

@Above: Nope, kel tec has a different design, though I believe it is based on the N2000

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MXu96taKq-Y/S3QXJ5-2l1I/AAAAAAAAHKM/AsdmmlDhZzQ/s1600-h/2.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4bg3k7Hua1qbzcs9o1_500.jpg

[Sam Cade]

Charlton Automatic Rifle

[Cal-gun Fan]

Yep, thats right, fast

[Sam Cade]

Here is a good one

http://img819.imageshack.us/i/boomon.jpg/

138328

[Shear_stress]

Webley-Mars

[Sam Cade]

Webley-Mars

Close enough :)


(its a Gabbet-Fairfax)

[Shear_stress]

Here's one:

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Mystery_gun.jpg

[Cosmoline]

Beretta 38A submachine gun

[Pronghorn]

Can you give out a hint? The stock looks swiss, but I could be wrong. It looks like a suomi SMG and a G43 had a kid

[Shear_stress]

Beretta 38A submachine gun
Nope.

Hint: look at the magazine.

[rfwobbly]

This one came around in an email a few moths back. So I don't even know what it is!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_E3bV2jGIaSg/TR3jWn7rTeI/AAAAAAAAB6A/UGGEkkjrLn8/x10sctmp5.jpg

However, I do know it's not black. Therefore it cannot be a Glock or dangerous. :D

[Pronghorn]

A beretta with no barrel shroud?

[Sam Cade]

Beretta 38A submachine gun

Look at how the magazine is curved.

7.62x25 for sure.

[Cal-gun Fan]

Cristobal Carbine Model 2

@RFwobbly: Sorry, I think you have to answer one of the guns before you can post your own.

[Shear_stress]

Cristobal Carbine Model 2

Well done! The magazine is the same as the M2 carbine.

[Sam Cade]

The magazine is the same as the M2 carbine.

Hah! *facepalm*

I knew it had to be something long.

I bet that thing was a handful!

[Cal-gun Fan]

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/3a/VP15a.jpg/450px-VP15a.jpg

Try this one :P

[Rail Driver]

I've seen a few very unique guns... Anyone have any interesting or rare autoloaders or rifles?

Edit to add: Didn't notice the second page! wow, lots of activity!

[Sam Cade]

Vilar Perosa M-15

[Cal-gun Fan]

Yep, thats it!

[Sam Cade]

Here is an ugly little fellow

http://img824.imageshack.us/i/sewsew.jpg/

138329

[Pronghorn]

can you give a hint?

[Sam Cade]

Sure.

Its inventor revolutionized infantry small arms in the mid-19th century, but only in Europe. :-)

[o Unforgiven o]

Hell Sam, you got me. :D

[Cal-gun Fan]

The Dreyse 1850 Revolver, invented by Johann von dreyse

[Sam Cade]

You got it Cal-Gun.

That was a hard one.:D

[Cal-gun Fan]

Yeah, that was a difficult one!
Heres another:

http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2005_side4image.jpg

[Sam Cade]

KRISS prototype

[Cal-gun Fan]

Can you be more specific? There are several Kriss prototypes

[Sam Cade]

lol, I wasn't involved in the development cycle so I dunno what the build number is.

[Cal-gun Fan]

Alright, well close enough. It is the Kriss Mk7 Prototype

[Sam Cade]

Another easy one:
http://img163.imageshack.us/i/taptaptap.jpg/

138330

[Cal-gun Fan]

I know this one, but I'll let someone else get it, since I've posted a lot :)

[Hurricane]

Steyr-hahn 1911?

[Vyacheslav]

Steyr M1912 machine pistol with an extended magazine

[Oyeboten]

How 'bout this one -



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7630/ea192xg0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/ea192xg0.jpg/)

[Cal-gun Fan]

How 'bout this one -



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7630/ea192xg0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/ea192xg0.jpg/)
You gotta answer one correctly to post I think :)

[Hurricane]

Gonna take a bold step assuming I was correct....


http://collectorebooks.com/gregg01/amerigun/DSC07208.jpg

[Cannonball888]

Marston screw-barrel (breechloader) pistol

[Pronghorn]

my guess would be an ALLEN series percussion cap .32 cal pistol. However, it could be one of many manufactures.

[Vyacheslav]

oyebotens gun is a star z-45 and hurricane's gun is an allen and thurber tube hammer pocket pistol. :)

[Sam Cade]

Vyacheslav got it, M1912 Machine pistol.

[Vyacheslav]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/341/d/5/colt_defender_mark_1_by_teslapunk-d34fbg9.jpg

[Sam Cade]

Hillberg? Dunno which one it is.

[Pronghorn]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4269/pumpactionrevolvershotgal6.jpg

Is it a shortened version of this russian pump action revolving shotgun? I cant read the name because I don't speak russian.

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[Shadow 7D]

I'd go with
The Colt Defender
http://www.lesjones.com/2008/05/06/whacky-clandestine-shotguns/
http://tml.travellercentral.com/hillberg/index.html

[Shadow 7D]

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/picture-1-2.png

Here you go, three barrel drilling pistol
can you name it?

[Sam Cade]

Thats the soviet space agency survival weapon isnt it?. Neat thing. Butt stock conceals a machete.

[Shadow 7D]

Name??

[Sam Cade]

Name??

No Idea. saw it in a display at the Russian space museum.

[Shadow 7D]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/13/tp-82-russian-space-pistol-shotgun-carbine-flare-gun-no-longer-being-carried-into-space/

yep
I'll give it to you

[Sam Cade]

This is a fun one.

http://img854.imageshack.us/i/4way.jpg/

138332

[Wonder9]

Lancaster Four-Barrel Double Action Pistol.

[Sam Cade]

Wonder9 for the win!

[critter]

Guys, I LOVE this thread!

[Wonder9]

My turn.

[lobo9er]

norinco 86 bull pup?

[Wonder9]

Nope.

[Ian]

Russian A-91 experimental bullpup (with grenade launcher).

How about this one?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138296&stc=1&d=1300106277

[WalkAbout]

hint?

[Pronghorn]

Prototype FAL?

[Shadow 7D]

Shapes is wrong, I would go either a shotgun conversion (and the mag would help) of a CETME, or some type of CETME prototype.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Can't find anything on that beast.

[WalkAbout]

I've looked for it as an anti-tank rifle, as a shotgun, and as a light machine gun. No dice. I give up...

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[Shadow 7D]

can you post another pic please from a different angle, or give a hint...

[Ian]

Okay, here's another shot of it (less the grip and stock - most of my photos are of the internal parts). And for a hint, it is an experimental piece developed from a commonly known gun that ran like a fine clock. I've got a nice shiny red apple for whoever can figure it out. ;)


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138327&stc=1&d=1300149891

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Lemat Autopistol

[Shadow 7D]

Ok, the grip looks alot like a ruger MK series,
the upper looks alot like a CETME
and past that, I'm out.

[country boy marksman]

looks like the illegitimate child of an FAL and an STG 44, so does that have anything to do with it??

[Ian]

Nope, not related to an StG, FAL, CETME, or Ruger.

Should I post an easier one instead?

[Cal-gun Fan]

No no no, I'll figure it out...

[Vyacheslav]

is it integrally suppressed?

[country boy marksman]

I just noticed that it has some similarities (at least in my mind) with the PTRS-41 (an anti tank rifle designed by Sergei Simonov), but that's not exactly a well known gun... maybe another hint???

[country boy marksman]

if it's not integrally suppressed, it's got to be something big! or a shotgun. To explain my previous post, It looks Russian.

[straybullet]

Wow, this is a hard one. I've gone through 3 gun collectors digests so far!

[Shadow 7D]

Ok, I will posit that it is a version or prototype of the development of the Swiss stgw57
somewhere between the Ak46 and the AK53, with a blow forward action or a version of gas trap.

That said, the trigger guard is off on it, even if the rest isn't (but stock looks later in the iteration towards the 57) but the trigger guard and grip has a milled look instead of stamped and bent.

[country boy marksman]

must be quite a version/prototype! I'll say it again, "I think we need another hint!":confused:

let me rest my "google-fu" :scrutiny: it'll probably be answered by the time I check back in. This is by far the hardest one yet, IMHO!:banghead:

[Ian]

Nope, not Swiss or Russian.

Another hint: it's chambered for .30-06.

I'm pretty sure nobody will find reference to this one online or in anything but the most obscure published pamphlet. The only way to know it is to recognize it from previous experience or figure it out from my more subtle clues. ;)

I'll be posting all the photos on my web site in a week or two, and then there will be a Google-able reference to it.

[gathert]

Whats the end of the barrel look like? Does it just stop right after the picture with no sort of flash hider?

[Vyacheslav]

the ptr-41 is just a giant sks.

might that gun be based on the garand?

[Konstantin835]

Is it a Pzb-40?

[Shadow 7D]

Ok, in 30.06
so if for the US army, before the 60's
Milled receiver, interesting front, not a shot gun, so looking earlier at a gas trap??
so.. right after the war, based off of the G42 or was it G43 with the gas trap.

As for who, IDK

[CZsp01]

I'm never going to be able to play this game :(

[Cal-gun Fan]

Alright, wanna just tell us?

[Ian]

Alright - it's an experimental shoulder rifle version of the Lewis gun.

Here's a different one that has a pretty clear lineage, but is still pretty interesting (it'll be on the site tomorrow):

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138394&stc=1&d=1300240787

[country boy marksman]

I had considered a few other MG's, but nothing even close to the Lewis! upon searching for your description, I only found two guns that were Lewis-es that bore any resemblance to this! :o the second gun, however, I found quite a few images of. In my opinion, if you could put a 30 round magazine on that thing and make it lighter/smaller, it would actually be a pretty good heavy battle rifle! :D (the first one)

So who's next? :)

[WalkAbout]

Alright - it's an experimental shoulder rifle version of the Lewis gun.

Well played, sir. Well played.

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[Shadow 7D]

NEXT

[Cal-gun Fan]

Kubynov/Type 11 DP-28 variant. It was fed by a hopper.

[Ian]

Yep - your turn!

[country boy marksman]

oh... :uhoh: didn't realize that was the next one, :o as I said, I had seen that one in some searches for the previous one... :banghead: Woops! :eek: Guess I 'll have to give the next one a try!:)

[Cal-gun Fan]

Sorry for late post!
Here:
http://images.bradspictures.com/bpictures/k/korobov_tkb-059-36462.jpg

[Shear_stress]

Korobov TKB-408 (had to look that one up)

Here's another:

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Mystery_gun_2.jpg

[WalkAbout]

Norinco CQ?

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[Shadow 7D]

Yep, pistol grip and handgaurds are a giveaway

[Shear_stress]

Norinco CQ?

Yup. Figured I'd throw an easier one in.

[WalkAbout]

Guess its my turn. This shouldn't be too hard.

b

[Pronghorn]

A Harrington and Richardson top break revolver

[WalkAbout]

Nope.

[Dr.Rob]

Iver Johnson top break, looks like an owl on the grip.

[WalkAbout]

Iver Johnson top break, looks like an owl on the grip

Close enough. Its a Iver Johnson Safety Automatic. The same kind of gun incidentally was used by Leon Czolgosz in the assassination of President McKinley.

Your turn!

b

[bushmaster1313]

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/bushmaster1313/CIMG3271.jpg

[NG VI]

That's not Dr. Rob...

[Dr.Rob]

One of my fave "what the heck is that thing" from the late 70's.

[bushmaster1313]

That's not Dr. Rob...


We can't all be "Dr. Rob" :neener:

[Sam Cade]

One of my fave "what the heck is that thing" from the late 70's.


HESH-RAW. That would have been a mean piece of gear.

[Dr.Rob]

Yes Sam, the ironically named "Rifleman's Assault Weapon" or the bowling ball from hell, as it was made by Brunswick. No more 7-10 splits with this rock.

It's a bullet-triggered, rocket powered, soft launching 3 pound satchel charge designed for busting bunkers and BMP's. Always thought it looked like something from science fiction. Ungainly and ugly, but supposedly it was very effective.

[Sam Cade]

Not hard, but could be a little tricky.

[jerkface11]

Chinese AR variant.

[Sam Cade]

Chinese AR variant

You are correct sir!

[jerkface11]

I guess neither of us was paying attention that same gun was posted on page 5 lol.

[Pronghorn]

sporting model of a early Stevens single barrel shotgun

[Cal-gun Fan]

sporting model of a early Stevens single barrel shotgun
That one wasn't in turn. No cigar :)

[gathert]

I've got a stevens double barrel sitting in my gun safe actually... Two is better than one right?

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I think its Jerkface's turn now.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Well since The last winner hasn't posted, I'll post something to get this going again.

Probably too easy but oh well.
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3151&stc=1&d=1077717842

[The-Reaver]

Gen 4 glock named spectre?

[Sam Cade]

Alchemy Arms Specter.

[Sam Cade]

This is a fun one.

Medium Hard Challenge.

[Vyacheslav]

Alfa-Proj .357 carbine

[Sam Cade]

Vyacheslav for the win!

[Vyacheslav]

http://www.horstheld.com/Dreyse.jpg

[Pronghorn]

stevens sporting edition?\

sry ignore this my computer didnt load the newest pics

[mgregg85]

Would that be some type of dreyse needle fire pistol?