Name that gun!


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FIVETWOSEVEN
March 13, 2011, 01:58 AM
Lets play a game!

In this game the goal is to ID the last gun posted, the rules are simple.
1. Identify the last gun posted
2. If you have successfully ID'ed the last posted gun and the poster verifies, it becomes your turn to post a gun.
3. No posting out of turn
4. Pictures only except for hints if people are having a hard time figuring it out.
5. Have fun!

I'll go first, lets see if you can ID this! :evil:

http://i56.tinypic.com/10dfn9h.jpg

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NG VI
March 13, 2011, 03:05 AM
It's like a hideous corruption of the Webley Autorevolver. I have no idea, I will have to cheat (google images!) this one

bannockburn
March 13, 2011, 10:31 AM
It looks like a copy (Spanish?) of a Mauser Model 1878 "Zig-Zag" revolver.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 13, 2011, 11:11 AM
It is spanish.

Vyacheslav
March 13, 2011, 11:25 AM
Zulacia automatic revolver

straybullet
March 13, 2011, 11:30 AM
A Warner Infallible .32?

straybullet
March 13, 2011, 11:39 AM
Nevermind on the Warner it wasn't a revolver..

B yond
March 13, 2011, 03:46 PM
HA! finally found a pic of this on google images and it was for THIS THREAD!

ShroomFish
March 13, 2011, 03:48 PM
It appears to be in the family as the Union Firearms Automatic revolver

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 13, 2011, 05:23 PM
Zulacia automatic revolver

You are correct, your turn now.

Vyacheslav
March 13, 2011, 07:29 PM
http://benjaminwhitmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cub268_z_f1_h-tfb.jpg

Sixgun86
March 13, 2011, 07:52 PM
Jarre Harmonica.

This one shouldn't be difficult.

Cosmoline
March 13, 2011, 07:53 PM
It's a Jarre harmonica pistol. Dangit I was out-drawn by a second.

The next is a Mateba autorevolver. Model 6 Unica

neededausername
March 13, 2011, 07:54 PM
Mateba Model 6 Unica

Sixgun86
March 13, 2011, 07:55 PM
Correct, your turn.

Only took one minute.

Cosmoline
March 13, 2011, 07:58 PM
Who won? I don't know if my edit actually beat neededausername

neededausername
March 13, 2011, 08:01 PM
I don't know who won but feel free to go ahead Cosmoline.

Sixgun86
March 13, 2011, 08:01 PM
I guess the first one to post the next picture of the unknown will be the winner. lol.

neededausername
March 13, 2011, 08:08 PM
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7509/gungy.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/gungy.jpg/)

I gave Cosmo a few minutes, and he didn't post so I went ahead to keep the game going.

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 08:11 PM
Neostead 2000

neededausername
March 13, 2011, 08:13 PM
correct.

Shadow 7D
March 13, 2011, 08:15 PM
Or is that the KT version?

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 08:16 PM
@Above: Nope, kel tec has a different design, though I believe it is based on the N2000

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MXu96taKq-Y/S3QXJ5-2l1I/AAAAAAAAHKM/AsdmmlDhZzQ/s1600-h/2.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4bg3k7Hua1qbzcs9o1_500.jpg

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 08:21 PM
Charlton Automatic Rifle

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 08:21 PM
Yep, thats right, fast

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 08:28 PM
Here is a good one

http://img819.imageshack.us/i/boomon.jpg/

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Shear_stress
March 13, 2011, 08:32 PM
Webley-Mars

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 08:34 PM
Webley-Mars

Close enough :)


(its a Gabbet-Fairfax)

Shear_stress
March 13, 2011, 08:36 PM
Here's one:

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Mystery_gun.jpg

Cosmoline
March 13, 2011, 08:47 PM
Beretta 38A submachine gun

Pronghorn
March 13, 2011, 08:48 PM
Can you give out a hint? The stock looks swiss, but I could be wrong. It looks like a suomi SMG and a G43 had a kid

Shear_stress
March 13, 2011, 08:49 PM
Beretta 38A submachine gun
Nope.

Hint: look at the magazine.

rfwobbly
March 13, 2011, 08:49 PM
This one came around in an email a few moths back. So I don't even know what it is!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_E3bV2jGIaSg/TR3jWn7rTeI/AAAAAAAAB6A/UGGEkkjrLn8/x10sctmp5.jpg

However, I do know it's not black. Therefore it cannot be a Glock or dangerous. :D

Pronghorn
March 13, 2011, 08:49 PM
A beretta with no barrel shroud?

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 08:50 PM
Beretta 38A submachine gun

Look at how the magazine is curved.

7.62x25 for sure.

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 08:51 PM
Cristobal Carbine Model 2

@RFwobbly: Sorry, I think you have to answer one of the guns before you can post your own.

Shear_stress
March 13, 2011, 08:52 PM
Cristobal Carbine Model 2

Well done! The magazine is the same as the M2 carbine.

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 08:54 PM
The magazine is the same as the M2 carbine.

Hah! *facepalm*

I knew it had to be something long.

I bet that thing was a handful!

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 08:56 PM
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/3a/VP15a.jpg/450px-VP15a.jpg

Try this one :P

Rail Driver
March 13, 2011, 09:01 PM
I've seen a few very unique guns... Anyone have any interesting or rare autoloaders or rifles?

Edit to add: Didn't notice the second page! wow, lots of activity!

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 09:02 PM
Vilar Perosa M-15

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 09:04 PM
Yep, thats it!

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 09:06 PM
Here is an ugly little fellow

http://img824.imageshack.us/i/sewsew.jpg/

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Pronghorn
March 13, 2011, 09:30 PM
can you give a hint?

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 09:34 PM
Sure.

Its inventor revolutionized infantry small arms in the mid-19th century, but only in Europe. :-)

o Unforgiven o
March 13, 2011, 09:49 PM
Hell Sam, you got me. :D

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 09:52 PM
The Dreyse 1850 Revolver, invented by Johann von dreyse

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 09:57 PM
You got it Cal-Gun.

That was a hard one.:D

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 09:59 PM
Yeah, that was a difficult one!
Heres another:

http://gullyborg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2005_side4image.jpg

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 10:01 PM
KRISS prototype

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 10:02 PM
Can you be more specific? There are several Kriss prototypes

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 10:05 PM
lol, I wasn't involved in the development cycle so I dunno what the build number is.

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 10:07 PM
Alright, well close enough. It is the Kriss Mk7 Prototype

Sam Cade
March 13, 2011, 10:08 PM
Another easy one:
http://img163.imageshack.us/i/taptaptap.jpg/

138330

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 10:11 PM
I know this one, but I'll let someone else get it, since I've posted a lot :)

Hurricane
March 13, 2011, 10:49 PM
Steyr-hahn 1911?

Vyacheslav
March 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
Steyr M1912 machine pistol with an extended magazine

Oyeboten
March 13, 2011, 10:59 PM
How 'bout this one -



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7630/ea192xg0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/ea192xg0.jpg/)

Cal-gun Fan
March 13, 2011, 11:02 PM
How 'bout this one -



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7630/ea192xg0.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/ea192xg0.jpg/)
You gotta answer one correctly to post I think :)

Hurricane
March 13, 2011, 11:11 PM
Gonna take a bold step assuming I was correct....


http://collectorebooks.com/gregg01/amerigun/DSC07208.jpg

Cannonball888
March 13, 2011, 11:52 PM
Marston screw-barrel (breechloader) pistol

Pronghorn
March 13, 2011, 11:53 PM
my guess would be an ALLEN series percussion cap .32 cal pistol. However, it could be one of many manufactures.

Vyacheslav
March 13, 2011, 11:56 PM
oyebotens gun is a star z-45 and hurricane's gun is an allen and thurber tube hammer pocket pistol. :)

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 12:29 AM
Vyacheslav got it, M1912 Machine pistol.

Vyacheslav
March 14, 2011, 01:05 AM
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/341/d/5/colt_defender_mark_1_by_teslapunk-d34fbg9.jpg

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 01:27 AM
Hillberg? Dunno which one it is.

Pronghorn
March 14, 2011, 03:22 AM
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4269/pumpactionrevolvershotgal6.jpg

Is it a shortened version of this russian pump action revolving shotgun? I cant read the name because I don't speak russian.

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Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 03:55 AM
I'd go with
The Colt Defender
http://www.lesjones.com/2008/05/06/whacky-clandestine-shotguns/
http://tml.travellercentral.com/hillberg/index.html

Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 03:58 AM
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/picture-1-2.png

Here you go, three barrel drilling pistol
can you name it?

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 04:16 AM
Thats the soviet space agency survival weapon isnt it?. Neat thing. Butt stock conceals a machete.

Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 04:49 AM
Name??

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 05:16 AM
Name??

No Idea. saw it in a display at the Russian space museum.

Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 05:20 AM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/13/tp-82-russian-space-pistol-shotgun-carbine-flare-gun-no-longer-being-carried-into-space/

yep
I'll give it to you

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 05:27 AM
This is a fun one.

http://img854.imageshack.us/i/4way.jpg/

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Wonder9
March 14, 2011, 08:09 AM
Lancaster Four-Barrel Double Action Pistol.

Sam Cade
March 14, 2011, 08:16 AM
Wonder9 for the win!

critter
March 14, 2011, 08:41 AM
Guys, I LOVE this thread!

Wonder9
March 14, 2011, 08:58 AM
My turn.

lobo9er
March 14, 2011, 09:02 AM
norinco 86 bull pup?

Wonder9
March 14, 2011, 09:07 AM
Nope.

Ian
March 14, 2011, 09:38 AM
Russian A-91 experimental bullpup (with grenade launcher).

How about this one?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138296&stc=1&d=1300106277

WalkAbout
March 14, 2011, 11:37 AM
hint?

Pronghorn
March 14, 2011, 02:55 PM
Prototype FAL?

Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 03:49 PM
Shapes is wrong, I would go either a shotgun conversion (and the mag would help) of a CETME, or some type of CETME prototype.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 14, 2011, 07:14 PM
Can't find anything on that beast.

WalkAbout
March 14, 2011, 07:25 PM
I've looked for it as an anti-tank rifle, as a shotgun, and as a light machine gun. No dice. I give up...

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Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 07:39 PM
can you post another pic please from a different angle, or give a hint...

Ian
March 14, 2011, 09:48 PM
Okay, here's another shot of it (less the grip and stock - most of my photos are of the internal parts). And for a hint, it is an experimental piece developed from a commonly known gun that ran like a fine clock. I've got a nice shiny red apple for whoever can figure it out. ;)


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138327&stc=1&d=1300149891

Mongo the Mutterer
March 14, 2011, 09:51 PM
Lemat Autopistol

Shadow 7D
March 14, 2011, 10:36 PM
Ok, the grip looks alot like a ruger MK series,
the upper looks alot like a CETME
and past that, I'm out.

country boy marksman
March 14, 2011, 11:05 PM
looks like the illegitimate child of an FAL and an STG 44, so does that have anything to do with it??

Ian
March 15, 2011, 09:32 AM
Nope, not related to an StG, FAL, CETME, or Ruger.

Should I post an easier one instead?

Cal-gun Fan
March 15, 2011, 11:17 AM
No no no, I'll figure it out...

Vyacheslav
March 15, 2011, 06:55 PM
is it integrally suppressed?

country boy marksman
March 15, 2011, 07:05 PM
I just noticed that it has some similarities (at least in my mind) with the PTRS-41 (an anti tank rifle designed by Sergei Simonov), but that's not exactly a well known gun... maybe another hint???

country boy marksman
March 15, 2011, 07:14 PM
if it's not integrally suppressed, it's got to be something big! or a shotgun. To explain my previous post, It looks Russian.

straybullet
March 15, 2011, 07:32 PM
Wow, this is a hard one. I've gone through 3 gun collectors digests so far!

Shadow 7D
March 15, 2011, 07:35 PM
Ok, I will posit that it is a version or prototype of the development of the Swiss stgw57
somewhere between the Ak46 and the AK53, with a blow forward action or a version of gas trap.

That said, the trigger guard is off on it, even if the rest isn't (but stock looks later in the iteration towards the 57) but the trigger guard and grip has a milled look instead of stamped and bent.

country boy marksman
March 15, 2011, 08:35 PM
must be quite a version/prototype! I'll say it again, "I think we need another hint!":confused:

let me rest my "google-fu" :scrutiny: it'll probably be answered by the time I check back in. This is by far the hardest one yet, IMHO!:banghead:

Ian
March 15, 2011, 08:55 PM
Nope, not Swiss or Russian.

Another hint: it's chambered for .30-06.

I'm pretty sure nobody will find reference to this one online or in anything but the most obscure published pamphlet. The only way to know it is to recognize it from previous experience or figure it out from my more subtle clues. ;)

I'll be posting all the photos on my web site in a week or two, and then there will be a Google-able reference to it.

gathert
March 15, 2011, 09:02 PM
Whats the end of the barrel look like? Does it just stop right after the picture with no sort of flash hider?

Vyacheslav
March 15, 2011, 09:12 PM
the ptr-41 is just a giant sks.

might that gun be based on the garand?

Konstantin835
March 15, 2011, 09:39 PM
Is it a Pzb-40?

Shadow 7D
March 15, 2011, 10:09 PM
Ok, in 30.06
so if for the US army, before the 60's
Milled receiver, interesting front, not a shot gun, so looking earlier at a gas trap??
so.. right after the war, based off of the G42 or was it G43 with the gas trap.

As for who, IDK

CZsp01
March 15, 2011, 10:15 PM
I'm never going to be able to play this game :(

Cal-gun Fan
March 15, 2011, 10:41 PM
Alright, wanna just tell us?

Ian
March 15, 2011, 11:01 PM
Alright - it's an experimental shoulder rifle version of the Lewis gun.

Here's a different one that has a pretty clear lineage, but is still pretty interesting (it'll be on the site tomorrow):

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138394&stc=1&d=1300240787

country boy marksman
March 15, 2011, 11:31 PM
I had considered a few other MG's, but nothing even close to the Lewis! upon searching for your description, I only found two guns that were Lewis-es that bore any resemblance to this! :o the second gun, however, I found quite a few images of. In my opinion, if you could put a 30 round magazine on that thing and make it lighter/smaller, it would actually be a pretty good heavy battle rifle! :D (the first one)

So who's next? :)

WalkAbout
March 16, 2011, 12:01 AM
Alright - it's an experimental shoulder rifle version of the Lewis gun.

Well played, sir. Well played.

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Shadow 7D
March 16, 2011, 02:08 AM
NEXT

Cal-gun Fan
March 16, 2011, 07:54 PM
Kubynov/Type 11 DP-28 variant. It was fed by a hopper.

Ian
March 16, 2011, 10:35 PM
Yep - your turn!

country boy marksman
March 17, 2011, 12:02 AM
oh... :uhoh: didn't realize that was the next one, :o as I said, I had seen that one in some searches for the previous one... :banghead: Woops! :eek: Guess I 'll have to give the next one a try!:)

Cal-gun Fan
March 18, 2011, 10:15 AM
Sorry for late post!
Here:
http://images.bradspictures.com/bpictures/k/korobov_tkb-059-36462.jpg

Shear_stress
March 18, 2011, 11:01 AM
Korobov TKB-408 (had to look that one up)

Here's another:

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Mystery_gun_2.jpg

WalkAbout
March 18, 2011, 10:20 PM
Norinco CQ?

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Shadow 7D
March 19, 2011, 02:33 AM
Yep, pistol grip and handgaurds are a giveaway

Shear_stress
March 19, 2011, 08:13 AM
Norinco CQ?

Yup. Figured I'd throw an easier one in.

WalkAbout
March 19, 2011, 07:40 PM
Guess its my turn. This shouldn't be too hard.

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Pronghorn
March 19, 2011, 08:38 PM
A Harrington and Richardson top break revolver

WalkAbout
March 19, 2011, 09:10 PM
Nope.

Dr.Rob
March 19, 2011, 10:31 PM
Iver Johnson top break, looks like an owl on the grip.

WalkAbout
March 20, 2011, 12:47 AM
Iver Johnson top break, looks like an owl on the grip

Close enough. Its a Iver Johnson Safety Automatic. The same kind of gun incidentally was used by Leon Czolgosz in the assassination of President McKinley.

Your turn!

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bushmaster1313
March 20, 2011, 01:32 AM
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/bushmaster1313/CIMG3271.jpg

NG VI
March 20, 2011, 01:36 AM
That's not Dr. Rob...

Dr.Rob
March 20, 2011, 01:46 AM
One of my fave "what the heck is that thing" from the late 70's.

bushmaster1313
March 20, 2011, 02:07 AM
That's not Dr. Rob...


We can't all be "Dr. Rob" :neener:

Sam Cade
March 20, 2011, 05:04 AM
One of my fave "what the heck is that thing" from the late 70's.


HESH-RAW. That would have been a mean piece of gear.

Dr.Rob
March 20, 2011, 10:29 AM
Yes Sam, the ironically named "Rifleman's Assault Weapon" or the bowling ball from hell, as it was made by Brunswick. No more 7-10 splits with this rock.

It's a bullet-triggered, rocket powered, soft launching 3 pound satchel charge designed for busting bunkers and BMP's. Always thought it looked like something from science fiction. Ungainly and ugly, but supposedly it was very effective.

Sam Cade
March 20, 2011, 04:36 PM
Not hard, but could be a little tricky.

jerkface11
March 20, 2011, 04:45 PM
Chinese AR variant.

Sam Cade
March 20, 2011, 05:30 PM
Chinese AR variant

You are correct sir!

jerkface11
March 20, 2011, 05:58 PM
I guess neither of us was paying attention that same gun was posted on page 5 lol.

Pronghorn
March 20, 2011, 07:20 PM
sporting model of a early Stevens single barrel shotgun

Cal-gun Fan
March 20, 2011, 09:58 PM
sporting model of a early Stevens single barrel shotgun
That one wasn't in turn. No cigar :)

gathert
March 20, 2011, 10:31 PM
I've got a stevens double barrel sitting in my gun safe actually... Two is better than one right?

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 21, 2011, 11:58 PM
I think its Jerkface's turn now.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 23, 2011, 09:15 PM
Well since The last winner hasn't posted, I'll post something to get this going again.

Probably too easy but oh well.
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3151&stc=1&d=1077717842

The-Reaver
March 23, 2011, 09:27 PM
Gen 4 glock named spectre?

Sam Cade
March 23, 2011, 10:06 PM
Alchemy Arms Specter.

Sam Cade
March 23, 2011, 10:23 PM
This is a fun one.

Medium Hard Challenge.

Vyacheslav
March 23, 2011, 10:51 PM
Alfa-Proj .357 carbine

Sam Cade
March 24, 2011, 06:09 AM
Vyacheslav for the win!

Vyacheslav
March 24, 2011, 10:55 AM
http://www.horstheld.com/Dreyse.jpg

Pronghorn
March 24, 2011, 08:34 PM
stevens sporting edition?\

sry ignore this my computer didnt load the newest pics

mgregg85
April 9, 2011, 09:35 PM
Would that be some type of dreyse needle fire pistol?

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