adams and bennet mauser barrels?


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suzukisam
March 14, 2011, 01:09 AM
I have a very short m96 swedish 65.x55 and I would like to possibly change the barrel. I don't want a benchrest rifle. I have several guns with nice barrels so I know the difference. What I want to know is if anyone has first hand experience with them. I would like a 1 moa-1.5 moa barrel. I don't really wanna wrap $300 in a shilen. just a clean hunting rifle

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Mike Kerr
March 14, 2011, 04:10 AM
I have one. It started life as a "Mexican Mauser" - action removed by a deceased family member who had it rechambered to 6.5x55 with a Adams & Bennet "slim taper barrel in a "pretty awful" Fajen style laminate stock with a "really awful" inletting job. Shot fair though.

I removed it from the Laminate stock and acquired a partially inletted Richards Microfit stock from a Gunsmith aquaintance who is a Mauser specialist. He told me that the slim profile Adams & Bennet barrels supposedly 1. Tended to be heat sensitive more than the standard and heavy profiles that he knew I used. 2. That my usual routine of "free floating" the barrel may produce some stringing when the barrel heats up.

I have found that for less than 10 shots it is well within 1.5 MOA capability and can sometimes get within 1 MOA. I think my gunsmith was correct on the barrel heat and I let it cool really well after 10 -12 shots.

This year I am going to try the suggested (front forearm) one contact point touching for the barrel. Supposedly there is some chance that will help the barrel on long shooting sessions. If that doesen't work I will just shoot short strings. Because I finish contoured the stock for a slim barrel and its fully functional As Is. Plus it was cheaper than a stock Tikka or similar.

I think your idea is doable and Adams & Bennet barrels provide a fairly nice "hunt quality" shooter if money is factored into the equation. You already know its not a "bench rifle barrel" and you already know there is a difference.

Regards,

:):):)

Clark
March 14, 2011, 06:06 AM
I have put enough Addams and Bennet barrels on Mausers and I have put enough Shilen select match barrels on Mausers to know that either MAY work, but the Shilen will work for sure.

A&B barrels that are not too thin can get excellent groups. But some of them get one or two good groups and then are Copper fouled. After and hour of cleaning, one or two good groups, then an hour of cleaning, etc.

I am not worried about lost money, I am worried about lost enthusiasm.

This Shilen select match barrel was a 6mmPPC benchrest take off barrel, and I paid the going rate of $75.

I cut off the threads and chamber and cut my own threads and chamber. I have never been able to get that barrel to foul.

NCsmitty
March 14, 2011, 10:32 PM
Shilen barrels are hand lapped and require little break in time. A&B barrels are machined well, but not lapped, and do require a 50 round break in, to smooth out the burrs. That's how I do it.

suzukisam, if you do swap barrels, you will need the Series 2 Mauser barrel for the M96 Swede. The F34 barrel will give you the weight for targets and game. The F14 is the 21" lightweight
I have a 26" F54 heavy barrel on my VZ-24 M98 action, with 1in9" twist, and it shoots 130 & 140gr 6.5x55 loads very well.



NCsmitty

dirtyjim
March 14, 2011, 10:56 PM
i have one on my 375 h&h and one on a 220 swift AI & both turned out to be a very good barrels for very little money.

critter
March 15, 2011, 08:17 AM
I have 3. Good barrels-not bench rest, but good.

suzukisam
March 15, 2011, 05:27 PM
thanks can any of you tell me how difficult installation is and maybe a quick over view? trying to decide if I should do it myself. I've done several AR's but I didn't set the head space

NCsmitty
March 15, 2011, 06:39 PM
I just checked the A&B barrels at MidwayUSA, and they only list 3 different barrels available with small ring threads, and they are F14 in 21" length. (series 2) They show only 2 in stock, 6.5x55 and 257 Roberts.
I would think that you have to verify the threaded shank length for the Swede after removing the old barrel. I don't believe all SR actions use the same shank length dimensions. You will need to final ream the chamber and check headspace with Go and NOGO gages.
I have a few special tools that make the job doable.

I buy the barrel blanks and thread as needed, so I have not used any pre-threaded barrels.



NCsmitty

dirtyjim
March 15, 2011, 08:00 PM
my 220swift was a prethreaded barrel and the shank was about .010 short, i prefer to cut the shank about .003 long to seat the barrel on the inner torque shoulder.
the 375 was cut from a blank so i did it the way i wanted, but i didn't have a lathe when i did the .220.
the .375 blank cut & chamberd very good.

6.5swede
March 19, 2011, 09:54 PM
I have a M98 modified action 6.5x55 SE with a 22" Douglas barrel, laminate stock and timney trigger that shoots 1 to 1.5 MOA with 120 gr NBT's. This particular rifle shot better with the action and barrel fully bedded.

hhrgprez
March 22, 2011, 09:17 PM
If that rifle is stock, why mess with it? There are many collectors looking for those rifles. Put it on gunbroker, put the money into a good affordable Savage.
You and the collector both end up better off.

jimmyraythomason
March 22, 2011, 09:36 PM
If that rifle is stock, why mess with it? There are many collectors looking for those rifles. Put it on gunbroker, put the money into a good affordable Savage.
You and the collector both end up better off. Why? Because I can build it as I want it and it's mine to do so. I'm not interested in building someone else's collection.

gunplumber
March 23, 2011, 07:11 PM
We took a AB bbl and put it on a VZ98 in 220 Swift. It was a hvy fluted SS. Got about 1.25in @100. Lapped the bbl and it went to 5/8 with the same loads. These bbls are fine for most hunting situations but I have not had as good luck if you want one holers. Most times you get what you pay for. Still kickin my own tail for selling it.

suzukisam
March 26, 2011, 10:04 PM
It doesn't matter if it's stock or not..it's my gun and I can change it if I want...I have savages, 700s, weatherby's...I wanna change the barrel on the mauser

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