Remington 209 primer fouling


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jhngardner367
March 14, 2011, 01:20 AM
I use a CVA hunterbolt .50 inline,for all my deer hunting.I normally use Winchester 209 primers,and haven't had any problems.This season,I had left my Wins at home by accident,so I bought some Remington primers,and I noticed 2 things that bother me. The first,is that the Remingtons seem to foul more.and thwe second,is that they seem to expand rearward,actually raising out of the flanged cup,by 3/32"! I went back to the Winchesters,and they looked normal,and didn't foul. I asked the local gs owner,and he said the Remingtons are made in China! Is this true??

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arcticap
March 14, 2011, 02:10 AM
I don't believe it. They have a lot of American plants including some new ones.
They're an American defense related company which also sells to law enforcement. Their primers and ammo. are highly regarded and I don't think that they would want to risk their reputation. They do partially own ammo. plants in Mexico but I don't think that it would make sense to import them and risk quality or a shortage.
What does it state on the box of primers? :)

All UMC Ammunition is American-Made in Lonoke, Arkansas, using first-quality factory-fresh brass and clean-shooting Kleanbore primers to provide the best value for practice and personal defense. Remington UMC is the best value in rifle ammunition available today. Priced competitively with re-loaded ammunition but made exclusively with finest-quality, first-run components, no corners are cut with Remington UMC ammunition. With Remington UMC ammunition you can afford to train your operators to the extent that their duty, their county and their community demands.

http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Ammunition/Rifle%20Carbine/UMC.aspx

makos_goods
March 14, 2011, 02:32 PM
John,
I agree with Arcticap. If the primers were made in China it would have to say it on the packaging. Where did this gunshop owner hear this story?

~Mako

jhngardner367
March 15, 2011, 04:18 AM
Well guys,as I've told Articap in a pm.the primers were old(11yrs),and contaminated.I was allowed to try several Remington primers,from a fresh batch,and there's been no more fouling,or swelling,and they are,indeed US made. Just goes to show you,that some people will sell you any ammo,any condition!

T.R.
March 24, 2011, 02:42 PM
I've been shooting my CVA Optima with Remington BP primers ever since they came out. I'm pleased with accuracy; I assumed that the gray fouling was normal.

On a different note: Remington 22LR ammo most definitely produces more fouling than FEDERAL or Winchester ammo. Yet accuracy is fine.

TR

frontiergander
March 24, 2011, 02:55 PM
Buy the hexhead breech plug for the cva optima, accura, wolf,kodiak and install it in the hunterbolt. Before installing it though, use a 006 size o ring and put it into the primer pocket. Should give a nice tight fit when you close the bolt and keep all the primer blow by out of the action.

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