Here's the drill. I'm looking for the most accurate (100 - 300 yards) .223 powder using 69g and heavier bullets out of a bolt gun. I've listed some powders for you to vote on as well as a catagory called other.
If you select other, then in your post, include what powder you're using. If other begins to be selected more than the rest, I will review the posts, and compile a secdonary poll using the other listings.
What will happen, over time, is we will begin to shake out the top couple three powders for this particular combination.
I already have a combo that shoots well in my guns, but I'm curious to see what others have and maybe help someone gain a starting point.
So let's see what you've selected. Remember, if your favorite special powder isn't listed, then select other and list it in your post.
OK - I forgot a few - let's see if I can get in to skew the poll and add R-15, 10x and Benchmark for you guys.
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March 15, 2011, 08:06 AM
With the exclusion of R-15 your poll is suspect.:what::what::uhoh::D
Tim the student
March 15, 2011, 09:24 AM
I see no 8208. No Benchmark either.
March 15, 2011, 09:26 AM
I agree with previous poster. RL15 has given me the best results with 65-80gr bullets.
Secondly was BLC2/Win748.
I only tried Varget with 55gr bullets, but couldn't get anywhere near the book charges in the case and certainly not book "claimed" velocities.
RL15 however, gives superb results. Even my Rem.M7 with a 1/12" twist shoots a 65gr Sierra GameKing BT accurately at over 2,900fps from an 18.5"bbl.
March 15, 2011, 10:23 AM
I have used H335 extensively with bullets in the 40-55 grain range, but the results were nothing short of amazing.
March 15, 2011, 11:43 AM
I use mostly H335 for anything to be shot in much quantity. It meters so well through my powder meters that I never have to trickle up a charge. It isn't always the absolute most accurate powder for me, but it shoots fairly well and is much easier to load than most. In my hunting/plinker rounds, I'll give up a little accuracy to cut out the reloading time using other powders.
March 15, 2011, 12:13 PM
I use Varget and Reloader 15 almost interchangeably; although Varget is a bit faster and more appropriate for projectiles lighter than 69gr. With the heavier bullets, I get better velocities with RL15.
When I do use ball powders, like for bulk ammo, I use TAC because I get good accuracy and excellent velocities.
March 15, 2011, 01:49 PM
I use H322,H335, Varget, V-133, all very good with various bullets.
March 15, 2011, 02:28 PM
I've never tried anything but Win. 748 and H335 simply because, it was all that was available to me. I have had real good luck with both powders. I use a dillon Rl 550 Press and both powders meter well for me. I was recently offered a Can of Varget, I took 1 look at the stick powder and gave it back to them. I could buy something else, but I would have to have it shipped. I'm unwilling to pay the additional shippinp charges
for it. Call me an Ole Fool if you will. I don't care.
March 15, 2011, 02:48 PM
I have used Varget, H-335, A2230, and a couple others. The winner always turned out to be H-335 for me.
March 15, 2011, 02:56 PM
H-335 and Varget. The H-335 gets the nod though, especially with Hornady 52 gr. BTHP's, makes some small holes at 200 yds. and the Pd's hate it.
March 15, 2011, 05:40 PM
I use reloder 10x for everything from 35-60gr and they all shoot good. Not sure if iys to fast for the heavier. Id try varget for them
March 15, 2011, 05:50 PM
I dont have a .223 but do have .222 Rem and a .222 Rem Mag. Both have good results with N120, N130, N133 powders.
March 15, 2011, 05:51 PM
No RE-15? No 10X? Silly poll.
March 15, 2011, 05:55 PM
No RE-15? Silly poll.
For 69 to 80 gr SMK's it's R-15 for me.
March 15, 2011, 05:55 PM
I am also looking into reloading the .223. Sorry to invade the post but, can you also add your setup - type/weight of bullet and gr of powder. Thanks in advance.:)
March 15, 2011, 09:40 PM
First time I tried, H335 mixed with 55gr Nosler Varmint bullets, it produced .5" moa at 100 yards from a 16" 1:9 barrel AR-15. It's my current varmint go-to load.
March 15, 2011, 10:26 PM
H-335 for me too~! ;) :)
March 15, 2011, 10:27 PM
Out of my bolt varget is tough to beat with the heavier pills.
March 16, 2011, 01:47 AM
24.3 grains R-15 under 77 SMK, over CCI 450 in a LC case from a Dillon 550, out of a 1/7 twist. Shoots good.
March 16, 2011, 02:02 AM
H335. I have loaded Hornady rounds from 55 to 75 grains and it does very well. I have a very tight barrel as well...1 in 7. The rifle likes the heavier rounds but does well with either and loves the powder. Although, as some of you remember, with that tight a barrel, when using the H335, I load at the lower end of the spectrum...never at max.
March 16, 2011, 01:14 PM
RL-15, with H335, H322, RL-10 & Varget coming in a close 2nd.
March 16, 2011, 11:13 PM
RL-15 is the most accurate that I've tried.
Varget is 2nd
March 16, 2011, 11:23 PM
Surplus WC846 does it for me but I've also had great results with RL-15,
March 17, 2011, 12:03 AM
BLC-2 did better for me than Varget for 69 smk's. Varget did very well for me with 55 gr sierras. I just got some H4895 to try out with 50 gr v-max's and 60 gr varminters.
March 17, 2011, 01:11 AM
In my AR15's I've had great consistent loads with H4895, followed by RL15.
Both with 75gr. Hornady BTHP and 77gr. Nosler BTHP.
March 17, 2011, 07:54 AM
I voted Varget because that is what I've been told I have yet no experience with it, but I will by the end of this week. I loaded some rounds with it and taking it to the range to find out. So my opinion is as yet unproven. But we'll see.
March 17, 2011, 07:57 AM
I only load 50gr to 60gr bullets and have used several powders. Varget has produced sub-1/2 MOA groups @100 yards. H335 has also performed well but not as well as Varget.
March 17, 2011, 08:06 AM
IMR-4064, IMR-4320, and AA-2460 all shoot well in my old Ruger 77V twotone.I've also used Varget, H-335, Win 748, and AA-2230 with good results. Fact is, the Rem .223 is so versitile, it's hard to find a bad load. Lots of good bullet/powder combos out there.
March 17, 2011, 08:20 AM
March 17, 2011, 11:35 AM
I shoot High Master scores with N140 and 80's at 600 yards.
Also shot HM scores with N135.
Actually, it is pretty darn easy to load sub MOA groups in the .223 with any powder in the 4895 burn rate.
Which incidentally, is a great powder in the .223.
March 17, 2011, 01:33 PM
You cannot beat AA2520 for medium (65-69gr)/heavy(77gr+) bullets.
`Just can't be done. :neener:
March 17, 2011, 03:27 PM
AA2520, shoots good, just is filthy. And I had settling issues when changing to stick powders at 600 yards.