Gun Buyback in Buffalo, NY May 14


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bobbo
March 18, 2011, 01:29 AM
There's going to be a gun buyback May 14 in Buffalo, NY.

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/Gun-buyback-program-returns-to-Buffalo

Anyone else interested in setting up and offering $15, $60 or $110 for their guns, i.e: Like the guys in Austin in February? Sounds like a fun Saturday to me...

BTW, I plan on going to one of the sites (not sure which one) with a sign, my C&R (in case of an out-of-state seller), possibly a Blue Book and a stack of $10 bills.

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ZCORR Jay
March 18, 2011, 08:29 AM
Seeing as Buffalo is only an hour west of me I might have to make the drive out and see what $10 will get me.

lobo9er
March 18, 2011, 09:07 AM
could buy you a stolen piece of crap broken gun a crook doesnt want anymore

RONSERESURPLUS
March 18, 2011, 10:44 AM
I see Gun Buy Backs as a silly sort of 'Feel Good" legislation and to Lobo, NO, Criminals never sell the tools of thier Trade good bad or what ever! They steal from you and me, Rob and more! Buying guns from a Buy Back Location shocks the cops into seeing rthe futility of such actions and waks folks up to other ways to sell off Guns they don't need or want? It's still a srange deal but It's Buyer beware no mater what ya buy where?


RON

LtShortcut
March 19, 2011, 10:23 PM
could buy you a stolen piece of crap broken gun a crook doesnt want anymore

Why would you buy that?

Shadow 7D
March 19, 2011, 10:29 PM
Um, why would they sell a gun, last I heard, the few places that cops actually do check to see if any of the guns were stolen, had like one or two out of hundreds to thousands.

Most of these are grandma turning in pre 64 hunting rifles and WWII bringbacks cause she 'don't like guns'....

armoredman
March 19, 2011, 11:05 PM
It's not a buy back - the governments never owned them in the first place,. so they can not "buy them back", it's a partially compensated voluntary confiscation.
Now, in your area can you legally set up a table there to purchase firearms? If so, why not? Might get something nice. Put up a sign, "It's for MY children!". They'll get confused and come to you instead. :D

jimmyraythomason
March 19, 2011, 11:10 PM
a partially compensated voluntary confiscation. There it is and very well put.

Shadow 7D
March 19, 2011, 11:27 PM
So lets get a link, don't know the legalities of FTF in NY (state, which yes, I know isn't the communist prison of NYC)

So, get some pro-gun orgs or even a local gunshop out there to purchase
Run a table with a banner offering to show "True Blue Book Value" and purchase for $50 over the turn in.

whalerman
March 20, 2011, 12:32 AM
Believe me, anything of any value does not end up getting destroyed. Somebody takes it home. Don't lose any sleep over that.

HEAVY METAL 1
March 20, 2011, 01:19 AM
The weapons won't be traced at all.

Mayor Brown said, "Some of the weapons our police department has determined in looking at them, were probably used during crime events, and it was good that through the buybacks, we were able to get those buybacks off the streets."


Do a murder, then ditch the evidence...& pick up a credit card to boot!

I have been trained in the scientific method, but even a 3rd grade dropout can surmise that just because "over 2,300 plus weapons(were) removed from the streets" does not guarantee that even one was or ever will be used in the commission of a crime. It's very telling in that no gun control measures have ever been able to prove that they work to reduce crime.

But I digress...there was a gun shop where I used to live that offered ridiculously low prices to people looking to trade their guns for cash. I often thought of hanging around the doorstep and offering the soon to be disappointed fellow $25 over the shop's offer. I like the above poster's idea of setting up your own table. The churches would likely have you removed from their property though!

Sunray
March 20, 2011, 05:59 AM
"...aimed at reducing violence on Buffalo streets..." As opposed to getting the violent riff-raff off the streets?
"...The money used to pay for the gun buyback comes from money seized from drug dealers..." Drug dealers getting some of their money back.
"...The weapons won't be traced at all..." Kill somebody with a junker and get paid to have the City get rid of the evidence.

Bernie Lomax
March 20, 2011, 08:40 AM
So lets get a link, don't know the legalities of FTF in NY (state, which yes, I know isn't the communist prison of NYC)

Here ya go:

http://opencarry.com/privatetransfers.html

According to this, private transfers are perfectly legal for long guns, as long as you're not at a gun show. Be aware, however, that New York has no preemption law, and that Buffalo, being the second-most populous city in the state, probably has lots onerous gun laws of its own.

Heretic
May 25, 2011, 05:27 PM
They are basically paying criminals to steal your guns that they can turn for cash to buy drugs no questions asked. Do the cops run the numbers to see if these guns are stolen?

ErikO
May 26, 2011, 01:26 PM
So, did anyone get anything good on the courthouse steps?

RightCoastBiased
May 26, 2011, 11:49 PM
They are basically paying criminals to steal your guns that they can turn for cash to buy drugs no questions asked. Do the cops run the numbers to see if these guns are stolen?
I don't think these people are getting large sums of money for turning in the firearms. I doubt it is enough to motivate people to steal guns in the first place. More likely they would steal guns and sell them on the street or use them for their own nefarious purposes.

I am, however, conflicted about the ideas of these sorts of events. Does trading in these guns get guns off the streets? Obviously it does. But to what end? Perhaps someone dumps a murder weapon no questions asked and then they go steal another. Perhaps someone turns in a gun that they've found in their child's room and they fear bringing it to the police because they don't want questions asked. Maybe the child never used the gun and now they won't be able to or maybe the parent just inadvertently dumped the kids murder weapon for them. Or maybe widow doesn't know what to do with a firearm that belonged to her late husband and she just wants it gone. Not knowing the legality of firearms trades, this would probably sound pretty appealing.

Very simply...its complicated.

alsaqr
May 27, 2011, 09:27 AM
Do the cops run the numbers to see if these guns are stolen?

Usually not.

robhof
May 27, 2011, 09:34 AM
When they did those events(sponsored by a local radio station) in Orlando, the police were arresting buyers within a 3 block area, for buying without a permit! One of the radio announcers was describing the guns; a lot of garbage, but some as said, a grandma bringing a WW2 Luger, a Garand and a few Mausers as well as a 50 Desert Eagle unfired in box and he described a lever gun with brass inlays all over the frame, his words"horrible scenes of Indians being Killed". They did run to see if stolen and about 20 guns got returned, but the rest were chopped at the site, to prove to the locals that they wouldn't become crime stats. The (gold) inlayed Winchester comm. was chopped!!!

hso
May 27, 2011, 10:01 AM
Criminals don't turn in their guns

Sometimes family members turn in guns that were associated with crimes

The guns that get turned in are not stolen by the police or authorities. They actually inventoried and destroyed. This is heart breaking because along with the broken and cheap junk are some real treasures that should be pulled out of the pile and donated to museums or actually sold to shops but are lost forever.

Gun "buy backs" aren't buying anything "back". They're an incentivised disposal method that does next to nothing to reduce crime or the number of firearms used in crimes because they focus on the wrong "thing". These empty headed feel good programs don't even attempt to address the root cause of violence in American cities and act as a distraction from solving the very real and very complicated causes.

ErikO
May 29, 2011, 02:45 PM
Gun buyback in MO = impromptu gun show. No 'selling permit' required, aside from possibly a street vendor's permit if in the city of St Louis.

I would think that dissuading folks from turning in the guns would be legal under the 1st amendment, correct? ;)

Danb1215
May 29, 2011, 05:26 PM
When they did those events(sponsored by a local radio station) in Orlando, the police were arresting buyers within a 3 block area, for buying without a permit! One of the radio announcers was describing the guns; a lot of garbage, but some as said, a grandma bringing a WW2 Luger, a Garand and a few Mausers as well as a 50 Desert Eagle unfired in box and he described a lever gun with brass inlays all over the frame, his words"horrible scenes of Indians being Killed". They did run to see if stolen and about 20 guns got returned, but the rest were chopped at the site, to prove to the locals that they wouldn't become crime stats. The (gold) inlayed Winchester comm. was chopped!!!
What the heck was the charge? Obviously there is no such thing as a buying permit in Florida. This is torubling because I just learned of a buyback happening in my area (Tampa Bay area) and I planned on attending with a price guide and explaining to people why virtually any gun is worth more than a $50 applebees gift card.

kimbershot
May 29, 2011, 08:55 PM
i have the unique distinction of being front and center in a gun buy back in 1994. my facade and interview actually showed up on the cbs evening news with connie chung.

the awb was to go into effect and the state of ct and some retailers sponsored a buy back prior to it's implementation. they would pay up to 500. for an assault weapon. well, i had been looking the week before at one of the local gun shops. they were advertising an sks for 100. on the way to work, the announcement came over the radio about the buy back. needless to say, i made a turn to the gun store, bought the gun, brought it directly to the hartford, ct police station and turned the gun in. i walked out with a certificate good for 500.00 worth of groceries at a sponsoring retailer.

as i exited the station, i was interviewed by the local station. i showed the reporter my retail receipt and the "certificate". please understand, i am a white collar guy. i had a three piece suit and tie with a camel coat vs a red flannel shirt. i was "news"???? 1.5 hours after i turned my assault weapon in, the program was shut down.

the result of my exploits was noted with high fives from a majority of my friends and acquaintances. i was vilified by the then atty general (richard the fraud u.s. marine blumenthal) now state senator, as a profiteer. i received some hate mail and some editorial negativity.:eek:

my interview aired that evening on the local stations and the cbs evening news.

17 years after the fact, i am still getting chuckles from those who remember and i am introduced to others as that guy who shut the program down.:neener:

bottom line--look up the definition of profiteer. :D

armoredman
May 29, 2011, 10:56 PM
Sounds like "right place, right time". Good work.

robhof
May 30, 2011, 08:40 AM
The mayor and some of the pro basketball players were at the event, but the arrests were actually a form of harassment to insure max turnout at the photo op event. The radio station was a local talk radio with a red neck slant and they weren't paying money, but high end sneakers from local sporting goods stores and the visiting pro athletes were signing some of them. None of the individuals arrested filed counter suits so I guess they were detained or threatened and no actual charges filed.

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