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Texas Moon
March 18, 2011, 06:52 PM
I know its not a BP gun but historical gun folks might like it.
Looks interesting.
http://www.naaminis.com/breaktop_ranger.html

Wonder why they didn't just make it in .22LR?

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nalioth
March 18, 2011, 10:02 PM
Nice.

daorhgih
March 18, 2011, 10:15 PM
How does it revolve? Is it manual? SA/DA? "Cocked" and NOT Locked? Can it rotate in either direction? I want one.

armoredman
March 18, 2011, 10:18 PM
Finally an easily reloadable mini revolver. Now make it DA. :)

Remo223
March 18, 2011, 10:49 PM
I like it. The price is a little steep. I hope they fixed the weak cylinder bolt spring. When that spring snaps off, the cylinder bolt stops working and the hammer collides with the back of the cylinder...bangs it all up and then the rounds wont fit in the recessed cylinder.

They need to make one with a velo-dog style folding trigger or a colt paterson style trigger.

mykeal
March 19, 2011, 07:14 AM
I'm missing something...what's 'historical' about a .22 mag stainless steel miniature revolver?

StrawHat
March 19, 2011, 07:27 AM
mykeal ...I'm missing something...what's 'historical' about a .22 mag stainless steel miniature revolver?...

It takes you all the way back to the 70s!

DoubleDeuce 1
March 19, 2011, 01:27 PM
That does take me back to 70's, and all of those disco gunfights on the dance floors and out in the parking lots. Stayin' alive...:cool:

scrat
March 19, 2011, 01:42 PM
hahahahahahhahahah

arcticap
March 19, 2011, 02:02 PM
I'm missing something...what's 'historical' about a .22 mag stainless steel miniature revolver?

Like most single action revolvers, hinged handguns look pretty nostolgic and have an appeal to some admirers of the cowboy and BP era guns.

This photo includes an experimental Colt C&B revolver having a similar hinged barrel (Model #12).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ctarchives/4522702535/

The NAA also clearly resembles the 1870 S&W Schofield revolver which was an early break action, and there were others.

http://www.oldwestgunsmith.com/gunsmith/gunsmith-scho1.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_and_Wesson_Model_3

The modern Derringer shape goes back to at least the 1866 Remington .41 RF.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Remington_1866_Derringer

mykeal
March 19, 2011, 05:19 PM
'Resembles' is a bit of a stretch to my eye. But, to each his own....:rolleyes:

Jaymo
March 19, 2011, 08:23 PM
I like it, but would like it better if the barrel was about 4 inches long and it had the rubber target grips. If they'll make it with a longer barrel like the mini master or black widow and the same grips, I'd really like one.

Even better, put the barrel and grips from the Earl on it and make it in .22LR.
.22 magnum is awfully expensive to go blowing all that unburned powder out the muzzle. It's better suited to rifles.
A .22 LR cylinder that has long enough chambers for CCI Stingers would make me giddy.

BHP FAN
March 19, 2011, 08:54 PM
I LOVE it! Now, if they'd just put a decent amount of barrel on it, I'd buy one.

arcticap
March 19, 2011, 09:05 PM
I forgot to mention the Starr percussion revolver that also had a hinge:

http://www.hackman-adams.com/guns/StarrOpen.jpg

And the S&W #1 .22 from 1866:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6PbD56mSkS8/StUuJC-X6qI/AAAAAAAABDE/v-Ea5anTKXo/s400/number1second.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6PbD56mSkS8/StUvP3LR4JI/AAAAAAAABDM/lW-PimO8ysY/s200/number1withcolt.JPG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6PbD56mSkS8/StUwbb8SmwI/AAAAAAAABDU/4FglC5zm054/s200/number1loading.JPG

Jaymo
March 19, 2011, 09:13 PM
BHP Fan and I seem to be on the same page. Any of the NAA grips for the .22 Mag revolvers will fit. I like the slip on pug grip. The wood boot grip with the 4 inch barrel of the Earl or Mini Master and a conversion cylinder for .22 LR would really get me interested.
The suggested price is WAY too high.

Remo223
March 20, 2011, 12:25 PM
I like it, but would like it better if the barrel was about 4 inches long and it had the rubber target grips. If they'll make it with a longer barrel like the mini master or black widow and the same grips, I'd really like one.

Even better, put the barrel and grips from the Earl on it and make it in .22LR.
.22 magnum is awfully expensive to go blowing all that unburned powder out the muzzle. It's better suited to rifles.
A .22 LR cylinder that has long enough chambers for CCI Stingers would make me giddy.
huh? overall length of stingers is the same as overall length of long rifle. Cartridge diameter and bullet diameters are the same. There's no such thing as a long rifle chamber that wont accept a stinger.

cane
March 20, 2011, 01:27 PM
If I was looking for a historical predecessor, I think the S&W "Baby Russian" is much closer than a "Schofield". http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images/smith-and-wesson-baby-russian/smith-and-wesson-baby-russian-1.jpg

Jaymo
March 20, 2011, 02:40 PM
The case length on a Stinger is longer than a regular LR. The bullet is not heel mounted. There are LR chambers that don't chamber Stingers.

Remo223
March 20, 2011, 03:35 PM
You ever shot longs or shorts? A stinger has the same bullet as a long or a short.

Jaymo
March 20, 2011, 04:15 PM
Yes it does. However, the case is longer than a LR case. I've experienced LR chambers that were too short to chamber Stingers.

BHP FAN
March 20, 2011, 04:21 PM
It seems like it will be a collector's item. If they make more after the first five hundred, then you'll still have one of the first five hundred, pre production guns, and likely the production guns will have subtle differences. If they don't go into production, the first five hundred will be the only five hundred. It'll be as if they were made of pure Unobtanium.

Jaymo
March 20, 2011, 04:43 PM
Looking at that one makes me want one of the H&R breaktop 22 revolvers even more.

kBob
March 20, 2011, 05:12 PM
Jaymo,

First many match chambers for .22LR will not let you use stinger and some in other guns won't as well. You just haven't seen enough .22LR cartridges. To use your own analogy thing trying to use a LR in a short chamber.

As to the H&Rs ease on over to Rim Fire Central and go down to the H&R board and rimfire pistol board. There are folks there that show and talk about some NICE H&R top breaks. I often kick myself for letting a pair of 999's escape me at less than one was worth with a 2 pistol rig with holsters made for those pistols and ammo loops on the belt. I have been looking for one this past year at a reaonable price.

TO keep this on topic though.

So if I pulled the bullets on some .22LR and filled them with enough BP to barely compress and reseated the bullet would this new revolver then be nostalgic? I always wondered how one could even see those razor thin front sights of BP cartridge days after the first shot.

-kBob

Loyalist Dave
March 21, 2011, 11:09 AM
To answer an earlier question, it's SA, and the cylinder has notches between the chambers to lower the hammer into when loaded. I'd like a little longer barrel, but it's pretty cool. The comment about the price is right..., for $399 I think I'd opt for a used .38 snubbie for SD, or perhaps a bobbed .36 Sheriff cap-n-ball for fun at the range or CAS?

LD

Jaymo
March 22, 2011, 07:10 PM
For $399, I'm about halfway to a LeMat.
BTW, I've seen (and shot) plenty of .22 cartridges.

Yes, match chambers usually won't allow them. A chamber that long would hamper accuracy.

Cramming a Stinger into one is like cramming a 3" shotshell into a 2.5" chamber.

Busyhands94
March 22, 2011, 10:26 PM
that is a pretty nice one, now if only they would make it with a longer barrel, a bit less pricey, double action, and cap and ball! now that would be something i would definitely be interested in!

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