Opinions, please; Colt or Glock?


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Steelharp
January 7, 2004, 06:39 PM
I have the opportunity to buy either a new Colt Commander or the new Glock 37 .45 for the same price out the door. If you had to choose just one, which would you go with?

Let me say, I have always been partial to the 1911 platform, but I really like the Glock 17 I got used. The 17 is what's making me wonder; otherwise, it would have been the Commander without hesitation.

Mikey D...

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VaughnT
January 7, 2004, 06:51 PM
Without a doubt, I'd snag the Commander right up....long before I'd get a Glock. Don't get me wrong, Glocks are quite serviceable weapons, but that's where they stop. The Colt has a long lineage that has some resale value and can be modified to fit your person/personality a lot better than the Glock can. The Colt also has true safeties that make carrying it a whole lot better on the peace of mind.

Is this a Commander (aluminum frame) or Combat Commander (steel frame) you're looking at? Is weight a real issue? Is capacity an issue? Are you a tinkerer?

What's this guy asking for the Commander? Is it Series 80? Does it have nice rollmarks?

Gotta love those Colts!

jamz
January 7, 2004, 07:38 PM
Colt. :) Can I get a Witness! (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58086)

Drjones
January 7, 2004, 07:42 PM
Neither. And both.

I'd either get a full-sized Colt or any Glock but the 37 because of that odd new round. It isn't proven yet and could well be a lemon.

Why not the 30? 11 rounds of real .45 ACP in a very compact and reliable-as-a-brick package is hard to argue with! :)

So that said, I'd get both the full-size 1911 and a G30.

They're both too nice to not have.

:)

clubsoda22
January 7, 2004, 07:42 PM
I like glocks for what they are, but i grew up shooting a 1911. And despite how intriguing those little plastic pistols are, i've got a taurus, bersa, HK, and still no glock...no glock even in the cards yet. It's way down the list. Buy colt, good gun, be happy.

Drjones
January 7, 2004, 07:44 PM
Another reason you should get both:

Both are entirely user-serviceable.

You can completely disassemble and replace parts as needed on both guns.

I really like that about my Glocks.

Longbow
January 7, 2004, 07:55 PM
I have the opportunity to buy either a new Colt Commander or the new Glock 37 .45 for the same price out the door.
In this case, I'll pick the Colt. Think resale value! :)

Ala Dan
January 7, 2004, 08:19 PM
Both are extremely fine weapons; but I'd
have too go with the COLT.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Sean Smith
January 7, 2004, 08:23 PM
Colt, duh. Especially since we are talking about a Glock 37. :D

Phantom Warrior
January 7, 2004, 08:37 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Glocks. Check out my sig line if you doubt me. But a Colt is going to be a lot tougher to find again than a Glock is. There will always be Glocks. I'd say jump on the Colt now and buy the Glock next.

phorvick
January 7, 2004, 08:39 PM
If anything I am a Glock oriented person. However, the G37 is not on my list. The G21 though...........great gun

Pebcac
January 7, 2004, 08:39 PM
Get the Colt. I let a Series 80 blued Commander go for a Glock 19, and it was a serious error in judgment. The Colt was just, well, nicer. Plus, you're looking at an as yet unproven round. I'd get the Colt now, and take a wait-and-see attitude on the .45 Glock round.

tc300mag1
January 7, 2004, 08:49 PM
The colt for sure .. you can always find a glock at decent price but usually cant find a deal on a colt

sm
January 7, 2004, 09:03 PM
Colt

Nero Steptoe
January 7, 2004, 09:05 PM
I like my Glocks, but don't have any use for the .45GAP. Given the choices that you name, I'd pick the Colt. If my other choice were a G30, I'd take the G30...for my purposes. Lightweight, 11 rounds of .45ACP, takes pre-ban, 13-rd. G21 mags, accurate, soft-shooting.

Black Majik
January 7, 2004, 09:08 PM
Without even thinking twice the choice is the Colt Commander.

1911 > Glocks :neener:

artherd
January 7, 2004, 10:18 PM
I'm not a huge fan of either gun (though I've yet to even handle a 37!) Overall I am a big Glock fan, and not a fan of the small-frame 1911 designs. The full-size just *point so much better* for me.

It will largely be up to what points and fits well for you. If you can however, I would recomend looking at a .45ACP Glock (ie G30) instead of the .45GAP(G37), unless you really want to try something new and won't *ever* need to find ammo for it in some kind of emergency situation.


All that asside, the .45GAP does look like a better cartridge than the .45ACP on nearly all counts. But not by terribly much.

Personally, I want a G20 in 10mm AUTO !

ajacobs
January 7, 2004, 10:38 PM
I would never by the 37, who want a gun that fires expensive ammo that is hard to find and will probally not be able to be purchased at all in a few years.

chickenfried
January 7, 2004, 10:55 PM
Even if the Colt was more expensive, I'd say the Colt. At the SAME PRICE it's a no brainer, definitely the Colt.

XavierBreath
January 7, 2004, 11:10 PM
Colt. That was easy.

ReadyontheRight
January 7, 2004, 11:15 PM
Colt.

dsk
January 8, 2004, 12:13 AM
Steelharp,

I don't know about the LEO community, but if you do a search on thse forums regarding the new .45GAP you'll notice it hasn't exactly received a warm welcome in the civilian shooting community. It may eventually catch on, but I have a strong suspicion it'll just go the way of the .41 Action Express after a few years. Those who usually choose a .45 want a REAL .45, either ACP or Long Colt!

Steelharp
January 8, 2004, 12:34 AM
Thanks, guys. You all just affirmed my heart... it will be the Colt. There was just a passing interest in the Glock; I handled one today, and the grip felt comfortable. But, with a Combat Elite and a WWI repro in my case already, I knew it needed to be the Colt. Now, I just have to hear from my buddy... if I can get the '75 Combat Commander from him, or the new blued Commander... of those, which would you pick? The older one, or the new one?

Mikey D...

Preacherman
January 8, 2004, 01:23 AM
The new Colts have had a serious upgrade in quality control - ones I've seen recently have been really excellent. I'd go for the new-production gun.

dsk
January 8, 2004, 03:21 AM
For me it would have to depend on how good the '75 CC was built. If it looks as good as a new one I'd prefer it, simply because I don't like the Series 80 in a Commander or Officers ACP-sized 1911. The reason has to do with the thin bridge of metal alongside the disconnector cutout in the slide, which is thinner on the shorter Colts. I had two Commanders give me problems in that area due to the hammer peening that part of the slide badly. It's hard for me to explain, but I know what I'm talking about, honestly. :scrutiny:

Greg Bell
January 8, 2004, 10:16 AM
H&K

ddj8052
January 8, 2004, 11:22 AM
I own 2 Glocks 23 & 27, and I would have to say get the colt. Like many others have already said, the 37 has no track record yet. The .45 gap round has no history. So untill there is more info on this combo I would stay away. Now if you want to look at other caliber Glocks than I would have to reconsider.

WT
January 8, 2004, 11:39 AM
Colt.

gulogulo1970
January 8, 2004, 12:32 PM
Very tough choice. Flip a coin. But if you get a GLOCK get a caliber that will be around in a few years(not the 37). Colts are works of art , Glocks are tools. If you want aesthetics get the Colt. If you just want a ugly gun that goes bang 100% of the time get a Glock.

I have both Colt 1911 and Glocks and tell you the truth I trust my Glocks more than my Colts. My Colts are my safe queens, my Glocks are my home defense guns.

m1911joe
January 8, 2004, 07:15 PM
Colt :D

Gordy Wesen
January 8, 2004, 09:50 PM
I'd pick the Glock. The Commander will probably need some work.
As for the comments about the G37 I felt the same way UNTIL I started thinking about the women and all with small hands.
Remember when 'Oob was touting the "flying ashtray" (Speer 200g) at an honest 1000fps? Remember that the 9 and 40 only do at extreme pressures what the .45 does naturally?
Well, why shouldn't the GAP take these shooters by storm? They can find a small frame that fits, a round that is easier on the gun and the shooter and is already proven.

Steelharp
January 8, 2004, 11:16 PM
Well, now another choice has come in... dang... a Para Ordnance 7.45 LDA, I've always wanted to try one... only $400! Should I?

Mikey D...

cratz2
January 9, 2004, 12:30 AM
Well, I too am partial to the 1911 platform and I'd personally take the Commander over the G37. The 45 GAP is a neat cartridge with some potential but right now, at this point, I see a few more drawbacks to the 45GAP cartridge than to the 45ACP cartridge.

I have nothing against Glocks... they serve their purpose very well. Now, if you were asking between the G36 or a Commander, I might have a bit more pause but the G37 is larger or should be more difficult to conceal than the Commander and a less desirable platform in my opinion. Of course, the G37 will weigh a bit less.

Zeke Menuar
January 9, 2004, 05:39 AM
No Brainer. Colt Commander.

ZM

9 m&m
January 13, 2004, 07:18 PM
COLT!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!:banghead:

carpettbaggerr
January 14, 2004, 01:21 AM
But if you get a GLOCK get a caliber that will be around in a few years(not the 37). I think the .45 GAP will be around for a while. There are enough countries which ban handguns in "military" calibers to ensure it's success. The US isn't the only market for Glocks after all.

Brian Williams
January 14, 2004, 12:54 PM
Colt

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