God help me!!! I'm starting to like Glocks...


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fix
January 7, 2004, 05:58 PM
Been babysitting a Gen 1 G17 for a few weeks now. I've never cared too much for Glocks, mainly because of the way they point (grip angle and all). After a few hundred rounds, I figured out how to hold the thing to negate the grip angle problem and I've found that I shoot pretty good with it. I've always admired the Glock as a tool, based on it's reliability out of the box. But as a shooter, I've never been able to bring myself to seriously consider them. I just caught myself browsing Gunbroker looking for a good price on a Gen 3 G17!!! Somebody stop me!!!

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PO2Hammer
January 7, 2004, 06:01 PM
Don't try a Glock 20-10mm, they are very addictive! You can feel the power without feeling the recoil. 21's are nice too.

williegee
January 7, 2004, 06:35 PM
Resistance is futile! Just buy one and get it over with!:D

greyhound
January 7, 2004, 06:44 PM
Me too, and I swore I'd never own one. But I rented a G17 the last two times at the range.

Plus I am reading a book about how Glock became the modern combat handgun, that might push me over the edge...

TheeBadOne
January 7, 2004, 07:09 PM
I use to make fun of Glocks (like a lot of people) without ever having held one. The first time I got a chance to shoot one I was still snickering and ribbing the owner. After I put a clip through it and looked at the target I was eating a lot of crow, and asking for another magazine.

current owner of G22 and G27, future owner of G20.......

Standing Wolf
January 7, 2004, 07:16 PM
I'll buy a Glock when I can specify blued steel and replace the stocks with high quality, hand-carved, hand-checkered walnut.

Beren
January 7, 2004, 07:16 PM
Been carrying a Glock ever since I began carrying concealed. I don't quite drink the Gaston kool-aid, but aside from a quality 1911 or S&W revolver, there isn't a handgun I enjoy more. Some people claim they're unsafe, even extremely hazardous but so long as you follow the four rules you have nothing to worry about. If you purchase an older used model, call the factory and make sure it's had any needed "upgrades."

Oh, and don't bother fighting the urge to lay down a couple hundred dollars on full-cap magazines. You know you want to, especially for a Glock 17. :) Check out Comp-Tac if you plan to carry your Glock. There are at least three or four more Glocks on my list, along with more nice revolvers and 1911's...maybe that new SIG 1911 when it's available.

sidearm
January 7, 2004, 07:47 PM
I love my Gen 3 G17. It just plain works—and works well. I trust it like it were a revolver. As a Deputy Sheriff I was issued a Sig - but I wished we were issued the 17. The Sig was nice and all don't get me wrong, but I just shoot the 17 better. Wonderful combat sidearm. I personally have hi-cap's + 2's in mine. With a round in the chamber that equals 20! That's a lot of powder. Now go get one and stop considering.

Sidearm-:D

Lennyjoe
January 7, 2004, 08:24 PM
"FIX, I AM YOUR FATHER"

The Darkside calleth;)

citizen
January 7, 2004, 08:47 PM
They may be the sweetest thing since ice cream, but I've never handled one nor intend to.......
I'm fine the way I am!!:D

cheygriz
January 7, 2004, 09:19 PM
I've been a "Glockaholic" for about ten years now. I'll never go back to blued stel or wooden grips.

Once you have been seduced by the dark side, forever will it control your destiny!

Sven
January 7, 2004, 10:12 PM
You know, I've gone back and forth on this and I'm starting to believe that I will never come back to the Dark Side - it's all because of that darn Valtro...

(sigh)

Still, my 17 is the one gun I know that would never let me down. As such, it has permanent collection status. ;)

Buy always, sell never

Wedge
January 7, 2004, 10:32 PM
I shot a Glock G23 for the first time last weekend. I always looked down at them, but I had never actually held or fired one. By the third magazine I was hooked. It fit my hand like it was made just for me, handled recoil well and made it look like I could actually shoot halfway decent! The one I shot was stock and the only thing that I would have changed was the sights (gone to night sights). I'm hooked!

vikesh
January 8, 2004, 01:37 AM
what you are feeling is perfectly normal, Just give in, man does not have the will-power to resist.

Bit the bullet and purchase it, you will love the 10mm if you're into big feel and power.

rayjay
January 8, 2004, 02:13 AM
I was the same way. Told myself I wasn't gonna do it( buy a Glock). I resisted for as long as I could and finally gave in. I shoot my G17 in IDPA and doing pretty good with it. It's an easy gun to learn to master. I still need practice with mine but I can already tell from the last match I shot that my speed is getting faster and my points are getting lower.
Just give in and save yourself the mental torture you're going thru now.
Give into the darkside my friend....:evil:

Blueduck
January 8, 2004, 07:16 AM
I'll buy a Glock when I can specify blued steel and replace the stocks with high quality, hand-carved, hand-checkered walnut.

I said the same thing for many years. Now I've come to the conclusion that a painting is not the best tool to drive a nail ;)

cornbread2
January 8, 2004, 09:05 AM
I have never been able to understand why some people tend to place looks and some kind of "cool factor" above reliability and and the real issues involved in what is needed in a carry gun.

I would much rather have an "ugly" gun that works everytime over a nice polished wooden grip pistol that may not work.

Greg Bell
January 8, 2004, 09:13 AM
nooooo!:cuss: Fight it my son!




:evil:

caleb
January 8, 2004, 09:30 AM
Every time I go to the range somone is pushing me a Glock. I resisted for a while then went to the Glock forum to find out which one would best fit my needs. Then I read about the voluntary recall and more recently frame cracks. Well, I guess next time a Glock is pushed toward me I had better check the frame first.

Skunkabilly
January 8, 2004, 10:27 AM
Glock = Austrian slang for cheap plastic :D

Just kidding, I think Glocks have it going for the near-perfect pistol. Just wondering why they have a plastic shell on the mags?

Too bad they don't have ambidextrous controls (mag release).

fix
January 8, 2004, 10:27 AM
It fit my hand like it was made just for me, handled recoil well and made it look like I could actually shoot halfway decent!

My problem had always been the opposite. I finally figured out that I couldn't use a very high hold like I do with a 1911. Once I lowered my grip, it seemed to fit better, and my shots started coming down a bit (always shot high with them). I'm thinking of getting serious about 3 gun competition, and seriously considering the Glock 17 as opposed to my 1911 that I use for IDPA and a few 3 gun shoots. I think the extra rounds might provide an edge. I'm not scared of plastic guns like some folks. I have been an XD fan for some time, but the Glock 17 is a time tested performer where the XD, while certainly dependable, has not been put through it's paces like the Glock.

Smoke
January 8, 2004, 11:16 AM
God help me!!! I'm starting to like Glocks...

Shoot two 1911's and call me in the morning.

Smoke

Skunkabilly
January 8, 2004, 11:26 AM
Smoke
Shoot two 1911's and call me in the morning.


At the same time? John Woo style? :D

PS Art's last name is eating one man, not eating many men :D

Lennyjoe
January 8, 2004, 11:30 AM
Too bad they don't have ambidextrous controls (mag release).

Skunk, do like me. I use the middle finger to actuate the mag release.

Glock isnt user friendly for us lefties. We make due though.

GLOCKT
January 8, 2004, 11:34 AM
wood grips eventually warp!

Mike Irwin
January 8, 2004, 11:38 AM
God help you?

Forget it, if you're liking Glocks, God has abandoned you.

Sinner.

:evil:

George Hill
January 8, 2004, 12:50 PM
Read through this a few times... take your time to read carefully.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex.html

Then after you are finished, rethink about just what it is you like about Glocks... and ask yourself if maybe a Walther P99 or a Springfield XD, or a Kahr might fit your needs better.
But hey, maybe you are a stuntman and still like Glocks.

fix
January 8, 2004, 12:53 PM
Already have an XD

Smoke
January 8, 2004, 01:05 PM
Skunk,

At the same time? John Woo style?

If that's what it takes.....



Art's last name is eating one man, not eating many men

Thanks, dnag dsylxeia, (sorry Art )
(where is that sheepish smiley?)


Mike
Forget it, if you're liking Glocks, God has abandoned you.

ROTFLMAO and shouting Amen Brother, Amen.

Smoke

Blueduck
January 8, 2004, 01:37 PM
Read through this a few times... take your time to read carefully. take your time to read carefully.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex.html Then after you are finished, rethink about just what it is you like about Glocks...

Dean is known as the biggest Glock basher around, and he has been accused of some questionable stuff such as picturing a KB'd Glock on his site without noting the aftermarket bbl on it, but there is some balance at his there.

He notes he sometimes carries a G-21, competes with it yearly at the GSSF at his home range and is a life member of the Glock Shooting Sports Foundation. Also notes he is a fan of the Glock 30.

Weird feud :confused:

denfoote
January 8, 2004, 03:43 PM
Resistance is futile!!!
You will be assimilated.

Nero Steptoe
January 8, 2004, 03:48 PM
The Gun Zone is a pretty poor source of information regarding Glocks or any other firearms. It's pretty generally known that Dean Speir, of The Gun Zone, is not only incompetent and ignorant about firearms, but is also a prevaricator. Before he finally removed it, due to numerous complaints, he was showing a picture of a blown-up Glock that obviously had an aftermarket barrel, saying that Glock was somehow responsible. Going to The Gun Zone? Reader beware!

Boats
January 8, 2004, 04:04 PM
Cornbread2 wrote:

I have never been able to understand why some people tend to place looks and some kind of "cool factor" above reliability and and the real issues involved in what is needed in a carry gun.

I would much rather have an "ugly" gun that works everytime over a nice polished wooden grip pistol that may not work.

Of course there is a false assumption at the bottom of the above opinionating. Namely, that good looking or cool is mutually exclusive of reliability.

Many Glock detractors simply believe their own eyes that their non-Glock pistols work just fine, (reliability). They also refuse to believe that they are so panicky that they will "forget" a safety lever, or that their chosen sidearm is just a few ounces shy of a ton, or that it will corrode if they don't watch it every second, ("real" issues in carry guns).

Naturally then, those who have nice wooden gripped pistols that work everytime ask themselves why someone would settle for mere ugly functionality when style and functionality can be readily bought instead.

I'd rather have a SIG, CZ, or 1911 than a Glock. Life is too short for any ugly Austrian pistol with a poor grip angle.

fix
January 8, 2004, 05:08 PM
Ok. I think I'm over it now. Looks like I'll be swapping my XD40 for a friend's XD9 and ordering up some extra XD40 mags. I went to the range at lunch today with his pistol and my mags and convinced myself that the XD40 mags WILL work reliably in the XD9. I still might pick up a used G17 for kicks, but I think the XD will be my 3gun pistol.

TamThompson
January 8, 2004, 05:10 PM
My mother is like that about Glocks--she will not use or own one because she thinks they're ugly. She likes her wood-gripped revolvers.

Here's my solution for folks who like good-looking guns but who want a reliable carry gun that shoots well:

1. Buy yourself the most beautiful, rosewood-gripped, silver-plated gun you can afford, while still holding back about $550.
2. Mount beautiful gun in a shadow box and hang it on the wall.
3. Take the $550 and buy yourself a Glock 30 for a carry gun.
4. Live happily ever after.

:D

Erik
January 8, 2004, 06:41 PM
My first semi-auto pistol was a Glock. I bought hook, line, and sinker into the marketing, hype, and capacity.

Then I moved on... (Other things to buy hook, line, and sinker into out there after all...) ;)

Years later and knowing enough to look beyond the marketing, hype, and capacity I can honestly say they are fine, servicable pistols.

Who knows, maybe I'll add another one to my collection one of these days?

Mastrogiacomo
January 8, 2004, 06:45 PM
What kind of caliber is the 10mm? I've heard a lot about it but I don't know what the caliber would feel like for kick. Is it really as good as the hype? I love Glocks myself and I'm currently waiting for my state to allow new Glocks in -- the 19 & 26 models are on my list as is the 30...but what does the 10mm feel like? A .357, 9mm, .22? :confused:

Tactical
January 8, 2004, 06:59 PM
God help me!!! I'm starting to like Glocks...

You may need an exorcism. See your local priest.

JoeWang
January 8, 2004, 07:09 PM
I thought my Ruger Ps weren't fugly enough, so I ordered a G34.

Well, you know, I have to have something to pass on to the little guy when he turns 21... In 21 years! All I got was a ball 'n cap 45 colt.

dave3006
January 8, 2004, 07:17 PM
Best gun in the world. Bar none. Functionality is beautiful. I have thousands and thousands of rounds out of my G22, 23, and 27 without a single malfunction. Good enough for me.

DontShootMe
January 8, 2004, 09:26 PM
10mm = 1cm

but marketing folks think 10mm sounds better.

I'll keep my .9cm for now...

Tamara
January 8, 2004, 09:53 PM
I would much rather have an "ugly" gun that works everytime over a nice polished wooden grip pistol that may not work.

Me too.

I'd also prefer a "nice polished wooden grip" pistol that works every time over an "ugly" gun that works every time.

Beware of false dichotomies. ;)


(BTW: The Glock in my safe works fine. So does the Springfield on my hip. Neither is pretty. My Les Baer works fine, and is pretty, but is not really set up as a CCW piece. Whatever...)

knowledgegreen
January 8, 2004, 10:54 PM
Watch out for the kB!'s. :D Just kidding I own a Glock 23 myself. Super reliable pistols.

SteelyDan
January 9, 2004, 12:28 AM
Relax, there is hope.

After shooting my brother's new mini-Glock this fall, I too began to wonder... You know, great reliability (which I prize), consistent trigger, pretty indestructible, etc.

But then I came to my senses and bought something else instead.

Still, there's this little nagging voice in the back of my head. No, there isn't. Really. I will never buy a Glock.

Probably.

caz223
January 9, 2004, 07:16 AM
That's what I said, I'd never own a glock.
Then I shot a buddy's G20.
Less that two years later, I owned his gun.

junfan1
January 9, 2004, 08:03 AM
I like Glocks! BUT! My brand new G17 had a FTE the first round fired through the gun. I continue to get double-feeds and FTE's about 1 time out of every hundred rounds no matter what ammo I use. In contrast, I have put 13,000 rounds through my XD 9 without a single FTF, FTE or anything else. THAT is what I consider reliable. My Glock sits unfired in my safe now because it inspires no confidence in me whatsoever. I like Glocks, but I love the Springfield XD! Proof is in the pudding! just my .02.
Ken:scrutiny:

Sisco
January 9, 2004, 08:07 AM
There is help available for you, a support group is available at
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/

LeonCarr
January 9, 2004, 08:15 AM
It is useless to resist us :).

Shiner Bock. Drink one, you'll understand.
Glock. Shoot one, you'll understand.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Tamara
January 9, 2004, 08:18 AM
Shoot one, you'll understand.

I understood well enough that I sold all but one.

What I understand is that what floats my boat may not be best for someone else.

The world is full of accurate, reliable handguns; understand that there is no One True Sword. ;)

Smoke
January 9, 2004, 10:00 AM
Shiner Bock. Drink one, you'll understand.
Glock. Shoot one, You'll understand.

Shiner Bock: Fad beer, popular with college kids still seeking enlightenment.

Glock: Fad gun, popular with LEO purchassing agents and gang bangers who will find enlightenment.

I'll stick to my 1911 and Ziegenbach, thank you.

Smoke

LeonCarr
January 9, 2004, 02:26 PM
Zeigen Bock is an Anheuser-Busch knock-off of Shiner Bock. Kinda like when Smith & Wesson make their knock-off of the Glock. Neither of them are as good as the original :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

TABING
January 10, 2004, 04:09 AM
I finally bought one (17) last summer and thorouhly enjoy it, it's number 35 or so in my collection, and wish I had bought one sooner. A good 2nd back to a 1911, and an sp101 on the ankle.

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