I Just bought an R.B. Rodda & Co .577 snider officer's rifle. Can anyone recommend a source of brass besides Buffalo Arms?
At over $3 a piece for brass, I'd like a lower priced option if possible.
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March 20, 2011, 08:59 PM
try track of the wolf.
March 20, 2011, 09:03 PM
I doubt you will find a better price. Snider brass isn't any too common in my experience. Just yesterday I saw loaded Snider ammo for sale (on the Internet) for $139.99 for 20 rounds:what::what:!! Seven dollars a pop (no pun intended) is mighty steep for my budget.
Almost 40 years ago I paid $1 each for some Berdan-primed Kynoch brass in .577 Snider and even back then it wasn't too easy to get, so I'd say $3+ per case today ain't too bad.
If you aren't already aware, the reloading dies come pretty dear as well. In addition, you will need an RCBS Rockchucker or similarly large press to accomodate the dies since they are larger than the standard 7/8x14 thread that dies for more common calibers have.
I hope this info doesn't discourage you in your quest to get that rifle to shoot and I do wish you the best of luck.
March 20, 2011, 09:24 PM
You can use Mag Tech 32 gauge brass hulls to form the brass...
Bertram brass is available here for 2 bucks a whack...
A lower-cost and low-tech alternative involves plastic 24 gauge primed shotshells, available from Graf: http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/2524 and round balls from Track of the Wolf: http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/TableList.aspx?catID=2&subID=25&styleID=58&PageSize=25&Page=3&as=1
Discussion of how to do it here: http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/11237/24ga-Plastic-Shotshell-Loads
Haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list of projects to try.
March 20, 2011, 10:21 PM
Should I run across any, Ill let you know.
March 20, 2011, 11:28 PM
I pickup lots of stuff at the range but I haven't seen those.
March 21, 2011, 10:10 AM
Thanks for all the info.
I ended up getting both 24 Ga shotshells and .577 Snider brass at Grafs. I picked up the reloading Dies at Midway and .577 Snider bullets at Buffalo Arms. My RCBS Reloader Special has a removable bushing to handle these bid dies, so I should be good to go after getting some .590 round balls.
I'm going to try both the shotshell/RB method and the conventional brass cartridge method and see how they go.
March 21, 2011, 01:43 PM
Where in PA are you? I'm in York County and have two Sniders and some assorted parts. First shot them back around 1986, when bell basic was all that was available. In fact, I shot them up at BlueRidge's Memorial day shoot.
Keep in mind that some models do better with 577 bullets, but the early models because of the Enfield progressive rifling, needed larger bullets to fill the rifling at the chamber. I have heard as high as .585 and .590. However an officer model or civilian model may have standard rifling that is uniform from chamber to muzzle and require a different bullet than the standard military model.
I was given a set of Lee dies as a gift, but haven't used them yet.
March 21, 2011, 03:29 PM
if i see any i will send you a private message, other than that maybe check with your local gunsmith.
March 21, 2011, 07:44 PM
I'm in York County too. In a little burg called Etters...Newberry Township
March 22, 2011, 12:25 AM
Ah Newberry township, home of the storm trooper police dept.
I'm am south about 15 miles near long level on the west shore of the susq
March 22, 2011, 12:49 AM
What zimmerstutzen said above.
There is a Snyder Enfield forum and they did a GB of Lee moulds a while back. Lots of info there and you need to determine which bullet will shoot in your rifle. Most start out with a .590 RB and about 60gr of BP then move on to the bullet that shoots best. Remember these were regulated 400 or so yards for minute of man. So they soot about 3 or 4 feet high at 100 yards (like launching a pumpkin).
March 22, 2011, 02:46 PM
watch the mag tech 24 ga brass, the rim is a bit thin compared to an old snider. I have an original paper foil wrapped case withh the iron washer base. It is actually about a 16th of an inch thick. The Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions reports a rim thickness of .065 inches. So be carefull of that 24 ga brass and it's rim thickness.