S&W Model 13


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ky40601
March 21, 2011, 01:48 AM
I was told that S&W Model 13 wasn’t very popular. Why is that? I got this one and I don’t see anything wrong with it.

S&W Model 13-1 M&P .357 Mag (1977)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/ky40601/Guns/aSWModel13-1MP357Mag1977SN2D61287.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff159/ky40601/Guns/aSWModel13-1MP357Mag1974-76cSN2D-1.jpg

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9mmepiphany
March 21, 2011, 02:05 AM
I'll bet you heard that in LGSs and they were trying to seel you something else they had in their display case.

The M13, along with the Ruger Speed-Six, is my personal favorite .357mag to use as a carry gun. The four inch model that you have was the last revolver that was issued to me before our department changed over to auto-loaders.

The 3" barreled, round-butted model is especially sweet, as was the model chambered for the 9mm (M547)

MICHAEL T
March 21, 2011, 02:30 AM
The 3" barreled, round-butted model is especially sweet,

Thats one I want.

NMPOPS
March 21, 2011, 03:19 AM
When I first started out in law enforcement (when almost all cops carried revolvers) .38 were usualyy seen with fixed sights and .357s had adjustable. Never could figure out a logical reason. When allowed to carry my own gun I carried a M-65. M13s, 65s and 681 just weren't as popular as 19s, 66s and the 686s. Still pretty much the same I guess.

tomkatz
March 21, 2011, 03:43 AM
Well they're plenty popular in THIS house, I love my 3 incher :neener:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/tomkatzid/toms%20stuff/IMG_8512.jpg?t=1300689612

rayman
March 21, 2011, 10:04 AM
Is the only difference between the model 10 & 13 heavy barreled models just the cylinder length?

snorko
March 21, 2011, 11:21 AM
I drooled over a 3" Md 13 at the Indianapolis show this weekend. It had some finish wear for $500 and I passed. If condition had been better, I would have bought it.

O C
March 21, 2011, 11:56 AM
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad301/GateGuy/Current%20Inventory/SW13-1.jpg
S&W 13-1 cira 1974(?) K frame Bomar sights.

Ala Dan
March 21, 2011, 11:57 AM
I bought one NIB back in the early 70's~! Like other's, I sold it or traded it to
fund another "gun project"~! :eek: :banghead: :cuss:

Lucky Derby
March 21, 2011, 12:06 PM
Is the only difference between the model 10 & 13 heavy barreled models just the cylinder length?
There MAY also be some difference in the heat treatment of the frame and cylinder. This is why it is inadvisable to convert a M10 into a .357.

gpr
March 21, 2011, 01:30 PM
#13 was the first gun i bought for myself...my only regrete was not doing a #14 with the adjustable rear sight....at the time i think it was an extra $50...gary

Lucky Derby
March 21, 2011, 01:45 PM
#13 was the first gun i bought for myself...my only regrete was not doing a #14 with the adjustable rear sight....at the time i think it was an extra $50...gary
A M13 is a 3" or 4" heavy barrel fixed sight .357 Magnum service/CCW revolver.
a M14 is a 6" (usually although some 4" so exist) adjustable sight .38 Special target revolver.
The adjustable sight equivilent to a M13 is a M19. M19's come in 2.5", 3", 4", 6".

Lucky Derby
March 21, 2011, 01:48 PM
The clerk was right that the M13 was not as popular as the adjustable sight counterpart, the M19, especially during the times that both were produced. In recent years I think the M13 is gaining ground, especially the 3" versions.

oldbear
March 21, 2011, 02:52 PM
The M-13 is becoming somewhat of a cult revolver with the 3" round butt leading in collectors value.
I've never owned one but from everything I understand they were/are great no nonsense revolvers.

GRIZ22
March 21, 2011, 03:07 PM
The FBI issued the Model 13 just before they went to semi autos. IIRC the Agent that ended the Miami shootout did it with a Model 13.

Chindo18Z
March 21, 2011, 03:40 PM
I was told that S&W Model 13 wasnít very popular. Why is that? I got this one and I donít see anything wrong with it.

The simple answer is: The fixed sight versions of the K-Frames (and later L-Frames) were the economy models of their time (1970s), designed for ease on the wallet at a time when most police agencies carried revolvers. They were considerably less expensive than the flagship models with adjustable sights, target grips, and other cosmetic improvements.

The target market was the cash poor new patrol officer looking for a duty revolver at a time when many cops were required / allowed to purchase their own revolver. They were also attractive to departments looking for economical fleet purchase for department-wide issue. Pricewise, Model 13s were the Glocks of their day.

Colt, Smith & Wesson, and Ruger all offered plain-jane fixed sighted versions of their .38 Special and .357 revolvers. These sold at a much lower price point than their higher end versions (Models 19, 66, 686, 586, 27, Python, Security Six, etc.).

There is nothing whatsoever wrong with the Model 13 (or any of the rest of Smith & Wessons fixed sighted revolvers). My very first new-purchase revolver was a Model 65, the stainless counterpart to the Model 13. I dearly wish I still owned that handgun. :banghead:

The bull barreled, fixed sight K-Frames are now recognized as the some of the best gunfighting revolvers Smith ever produced. Snag free clean lines, excellent size and weight for carry, great ergonomics, and hard hitting accuracy at combat distance. Everything you need and nothing you don't.

Your Model 13 a fine revolver and worth more today than what it cost brand-new.

Lucky Derby
March 21, 2011, 07:35 PM
The FBI issued the Model 13 just before they went to semi autos. IIRC the Agent that ended the fight did it with a Model 13.
While correct that the 3" M13 was the issue gun at the time, and a .38 was the fight ending shot, Special Agent Edmundo Mireles fired them from his personally owned 4" S&W M686.

ironhead7544
March 21, 2011, 09:29 PM
The FBI was carrying the 3 inch M13 back then as issue. Ammo was 158 gr LSWCHP +P with 357 Magnum ammo as backup. They were also allowed to carry an approved personally owned gun if desired.

I think the M13 is a fine gun. Just the right size for a 357 Magnum IMHO. I think they werent popular due to the number of available loads for the 38 Spl/357 Mag. Easier to adjust the POI with adjustable sights. The Police guns were often set up with an appropriate height front sight for the dept issue ammo.

skoro
March 21, 2011, 09:58 PM
I was told that S&W Model 13 wasnít very popular.

I didn't get the word. I have two 4" and one 3" M13. They're outstanding.

rdrancher
March 21, 2011, 10:20 PM
My very first new-purchase revolver was a Model 65, the stainless counterpart to the Model 13. I dearly wish I still owned that handgun.

I wish I could find either one locally!

PabloJ
March 21, 2011, 10:24 PM
You must be thinking about Colt 'Trooper' as these S&W service revolvers with fixed sights are very highly regarded. I had nickeled one with 4" barrel. It was very accurate gun with Winchester .38spl target loads. Traded mine for 1958 vintage Model 17 with 8" barrel.

wgp
March 21, 2011, 10:54 PM
One of my first handguns was a Model 19 2 1/2", but when I saw a Model 13
3" heavy barrel I swapped and have never regretted it. Great feel and balance and for what it is designed for, I see no need for adjustable sights.

roaddog28
March 21, 2011, 10:56 PM
Hi,
I hope people keep thinking that the model 13 is not too popular. That leaves more for me.
Regards,
Howard
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu283/HPitt74985/SWM13.jpg

Minnesota Wild
March 22, 2011, 12:51 AM
I have a nickle modle 13...I would buy one of those old blue models that you can see ten feet into the bluing in a heartbeat...

Phydeaux642
March 22, 2011, 01:04 AM
I have one of each. I bought both about two years ago - 3" was $275 and the 4" was $325. Seemed kind of backwards to me, but what the heck.

bannockburn
March 22, 2011, 10:32 PM
I always preferred the heavy barrel Model 10 and Model 13; the extra weight out front gave them the feeling of being perfectly balanced in my hand. Would love to find a round butt 3" Model 13.

Unistat
March 22, 2011, 10:58 PM
I have a Model 13-3 4" barrel and I love it. It's my nightstand gun and the gun I set up my house guests with (if they don't bring their own.) It is a pure joy to take to the range and do some plinking with .38s. Really one of the best gun purchases I ever made. It's my wife's favorite gun.

I need to get a lever gun in .357 to compliment it.

Remo223
March 22, 2011, 11:01 PM
I'll bet you heard that in LGSs and they were trying to seel you something else they had in their display case.

The M13, along with the Ruger Speed-Six, is my personal favorite .357mag to use as a carry gun. The four inch model that you have was the last revolver that was issued to me before our department changed over to auto-loaders.

The 3" barreled, round-butted model is especially sweet, as was the model chambered for the 9mm (M547)
I want the 3" round butt version of the model 65

ky40601
March 23, 2011, 01:51 AM
Thanks everyone for the info and kind words.

Jackie

dogngun
March 23, 2011, 10:23 AM
for police duty use, especially in cities, and preferred to stick with the Model 10 or Model 15 .38's. The Model 13 is extremely popular with anyone who has one or who has shot one.
To me, they are a real gunfighter's revlover-nothing "extra", nothing to go wrong, and reliable in the extreme...and capable of using the magnum round when you feel the need. Hard to beat that.


mark

dogngun
March 23, 2011, 10:25 AM
Yes, the heat treating is different, and the frame of the M13 is stronger. I think the rifling in the bore is a bit different, too.


mark

sixgunner455
March 23, 2011, 02:23 PM
I just put a deposit on a nearly pristine 13-3, 3" round butt. I've been looking for one for a long time, and don't have the cash, but I couldn't let it get away. Now, just to pay off the layaway.

Color me excited!

Steve 48
March 23, 2011, 04:42 PM
The M13 was my first handgun back in 1973. I have its little brother, a stainless M65 in 3 inch.

keyboard commando
March 23, 2011, 05:19 PM
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q274/pistola_photo/Model13002.jpg

13-3 with 4 inch barrel.I couldn't pass it up for $350 LNIB..:scrutiny:

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