Kahr P9/PM9 vs. CW9/CM9


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mattz357
March 24, 2011, 12:00 AM
For the difference in price (up to $200) are you really giving that much up with the "c" models? I see the slide stop is MIM, and the barrel isn't "match grade" but is there that much difference? I looked at a CW9 recently and the trigger felt pretty smooth, the gun felt good in the hand. I'm really still waiting for the Sig P290 to come out to make a decision, but I'd like to narrow it down ahead of time as much as possible.

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dogtown tom
March 24, 2011, 02:03 AM
mattz357 For the difference in price (up to $200) are you really giving that much up with the "c" models? I see the slide stop is MIM, and the barrel isn't "match grade" but is there that much difference? I looked at a CW9 recently and the trigger felt pretty smooth, the gun felt good in the hand. I'm really still waiting for the Sig P290 to come out to make a decision, but I'd like to narrow it down ahead of time as much as possible.
My first plastic pistol was a used CW9, my next a used PM9.

MIM? The slide stop isn't MIM, only the little lever is. The actual slide stop pin is machined steel. Unless I develop superhuman thumb strength it will never be an issue.

Barrel? The CW9 is rifled, the P9 is polygonal. Either works just fine. Who shoots matches with these tiny pistols anyway?

The Kahr website has a side by side comparison of the CW vs P models.

I am completely happy with my CW9 and PM9 you will be too.

9mmepiphany
March 24, 2011, 02:48 AM
The functional differences between the two are that the CW/CM series has conventional rifle, pinned front sight, MIM slide stop lever and only comes with one magazine.

The cosmetic differences are less contouring of the slide and laser engraving instead of roll markings

I have the CW9 and am happy with it...I did pay for an extra mag...but I must say that the P9 does look and feel better when I run my hand over it. it really is function vs. looks

Ala Dan
March 24, 2011, 06:35 AM
Another happy Kahr CW-9 owner checking in; as it has performed well,
amazingly wihout one hiicup~! I also had to pay for an extra CW-9 mag,
but that was NO big issue~! :scrutiny: ;) :D

ATBackPackin
March 24, 2011, 07:00 AM
I personally cannot justify the extra money for the P9/PM9 for a carry gun. The additionally features will offer you no benefit functionally except the extra magazine, which obviously is much cheaper than the cost difference.

I have a CW9 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=506352&highlight=cw9) with +2500 rounds through it and have absolutely zero complaints!

Shawn

usp9
March 24, 2011, 07:58 AM
The other difference is the available finish... the P and PM come in black, whereas the C line does not. Choice of sights is another important factor. IMHO, the other differences are really irrelevant.

Prosser
March 24, 2011, 08:46 AM
I paid 550 for a PM9. It was worth that. It's great for deep carry.
Use the bigger gun if you can conceal it.

hardluk1
March 24, 2011, 09:27 AM
I only have the cw9 but it does what it's suppose to. Shoots well. Looks good if that matters. I picked mine up used with an extra 8 round mag for a very good price. At almost 18oz empty its not one of the really light weights. I shoot my baby glock way better and shoot my kt pf-9 as well with 5oz less weight. Thats my everday pocket pistol. Trigger pull is with in 3 oz the same between the kahr and the kt. If I did not own the kt I would keep and carry it but to heavy for a pocket.

jaysouth
March 24, 2011, 09:51 AM
The major difference for reloaders is that the CW series has a traditionally rifled barrel making it safe for cast lead bullets.

The P series has a polygonal barrel which according to traditional internet wisdom is not to be used for cast lead bullets.

Who am I to ignore traditional wisdom(interenet forum chatter) at the speed of light?

rellascout
March 24, 2011, 10:08 AM
I looked at the PM9 vs the CW9 about 6 months ago. At $368 the CW9 was a steal. It is accurate enough for the role intended. There is no need for a poly barrel on that small a gun.

The cheapest I could get a PM9 for was $550 + $10 transfer. I got an extra mag for the CW9 from CDNN for $20 IIRC and a Alessis Talon holster from Kahr for $40. So fior $428 I got a complete rig. If I want to later upgrade to night sights I can and still be under the price of the PM9.

I also found the CW9s size to be easier to shoot.

PS the P290 is out and selling for close to $700 at places like Gander Mt and Cabelas.

Capp35
March 24, 2011, 12:57 PM
Wait a couple of weeks and you can have a CM9. Should be able to get for about $4-450 once they start shipping for a while.

I wanted the black slide and night sights so I bought the PM9.

heeler
March 24, 2011, 01:25 PM
And I wanted the stainless slide and night sights so I bought the PM9.
Paid 655.00 for it before tax from a dealer at the Pasadena Tx. gun show.
I really like the feel and the price even better of the CW9 but imho the PM9 is a much better pistol for me as a concealed weapon.

cemjr
March 24, 2011, 02:00 PM
I too chose the PM9 over the CW because it was sleightly smaller, I wanted black stainless & night sites. The only problem I've ever had with it is releaceing the mag acidently .

Capp35
March 24, 2011, 03:17 PM
Heeler,
Your just the oddball. Stainless, really? :neener:

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