Sellier Bellot and CCI Blazer?


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oboe
March 24, 2011, 09:10 PM
I'm looking for something good, but less expensive to buy in bulk for 9mm. What has been your experience with either of these?

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epijunkie67
March 24, 2011, 09:13 PM
I've used the Sellier Bellot .357 in my lever gun quite a bit and never had a problem with it. I've used the CCI Blazer in several calibers. It seems to function pretty well but it leaves my guns filthy. They get a lot dirtier using the CCI than they do shooting anything else.

UpTheHill
March 24, 2011, 09:20 PM
ve used the Sellier Bellot in several caliber, never a problem

CZ57
March 24, 2011, 09:27 PM
I don't trust aluminum cased Blazer. Bought some once in 9mm and bullets would easily set back due to not enough neck tension. That was it for me. Sellior & Bellot on the other hand is excellent quality. Blazer BRASS is fine so long as it is brass and not aluminum cases.;)

BCCL
March 24, 2011, 09:39 PM
I've shot a lot of CCI Blazer in Aluminum and Brass.

Only real problem I had with the Aluminum stuff, was in .45 acp and 2 of my guns the ejection port would tear the crap out of the case on ejection, split it from top to base.

But, your not reloading it anyway, so I didn't care.

CCI Blazer Brass, have shot a ton of in 45, 9mm and 357 and never had a single problem, accurate and dependable ammo.

fasttheo
March 24, 2011, 09:56 PM
Unfortunately I can't speak for S&B in 9mm, but I have shot a lot of it in .380 and rank it among the better ball ammo that I've used. Good luck.

mr.trooper
March 24, 2011, 10:05 PM
Two completely different grades of ammo.

tekarra
March 24, 2011, 10:14 PM
I have shot a lot both in 9mm with excellent results. My staple practice ammo is Blazer aluminum.

needmorecowbell
March 24, 2011, 10:37 PM
No experience with S&B, but have been shooting CCI brass 9mm for several years with no problems. I do agree though that it's a little filthier than many other brands, but I think part of the fun is cleaning your gun after a day at the range so I don't mind.

Animal Mother
March 24, 2011, 11:02 PM
I've not shot CCI Blazer, but Sellier Bellot is good stuff.

Wishoot
March 24, 2011, 11:18 PM
S&B is great stuff. Frankly, I find it to be hotter than WWB. I've shot about a thousand rounds of it between my CZ75B and my Browning Hi Power and it's been 100%.

Blazer is OK I guess, but it's not in the same league as S&B.

Hondo 60
March 24, 2011, 11:22 PM
Blazer aluminum is ok - nothin special

Haven't shot any S&B

Onmilo
March 25, 2011, 01:15 AM
I like Blazer Brass, the aluminum stuff is none too special.
S&B is decent stuff and my pick of these three.

skiwi
March 25, 2011, 01:47 AM
I've shot a lot of S&B, a little of Blazer (aluminum and brass) without any problems in my 9mms. Not sure if you have had any problems with other brands to be looking at S&B or Blazer. If you are practicing at a local range and your gun(s) is/are not picky, you should consider other more affordable practice ammo such as WWB. Before I got into reloading, I would buy bulk ammo from commercial reloaders such as Ten X and Lyons. There are others if you do a search for bulk ammo on line. If you are trying to match recoil of your SD ammo, it could be a hit or miss search with commercial ammo.

Do a little research into reloading if that interests you...

PS: CZ uses S&B as their testing/control ammo

WardenWolf
March 25, 2011, 02:13 AM
S&B is great. Cheap, accurate stuff. It's not underloaded, completely reliable, and very clean. I shoot the stuff in 9x18 Makarov and 7.62x25.

CCI Blazer is trash. It's low-grade range ammo at best, and I wouldn't even rate it that. Inacurate, dirty, overpriced. S&B is usually cheaper.

wbwanzer
March 25, 2011, 10:11 AM
S&B is all I shoot in 9mm. Never had a problem with it. Great stuff.

rellascout
March 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
S&B is loaded hotter.... better stuff. IHMO

The best deal I know of these days for quality 9mm range ammo is

$189 + shipping of S&B from SGammo

and

$210 shipped for RWS 124gr Nato spec from Weapons World

Mad Magyar
March 25, 2011, 10:44 AM
I've had no problem with either. All of it as range ammo. I'm not a reloader, so I'm not concerned with aluminum except the "brass scrounger's" that aren't happy.

ForumSurfer
March 25, 2011, 11:09 AM
S&B gives me tighter groups if I'm shooting for accuracy, but still not as good as more expensive ammo or handloads. And still not that much tighter than the lowest end of 9mm ammo...tula.

All of it as range ammo.

Agreed. When I'm running drills, I can't tell the difference between S&B or Tula spam can stuff. If your groups are super tight, you need to run your rills faster or from farther distances anyway. :neener: When I'm plinking, both will bounce tin cans around or shoot "minute of clay pigeon" equally well. I keep some S&B on hand in case I feel like shooting groups or I ever get around to entering a local competition, but the majority of what I shoot and stock pile is tula. I recently went through an entire spam can of the stuff without a single failure to fire or any other failure. Works for me and keeps me shooting more often.

The only issue I have with steel cased pistol ammo is that it does make loading a full mag slightly more difficult than brass. Hardly a huge complaint as I just bought another spam can.

mainmech48
March 25, 2011, 11:40 AM
I've used quite a lot of both brands over the years in both 9x19 and .45 ACP. For several years I could buy 'generic' ball of either brand and caliber for considerably less than it cost to produce good reloads, if one factors-in a little something for one's time. I've used both for training classes and routine practice with perfectly satisfactory results.

I ran nearly 2300 rds. of Blazer .45 ACP through my Champion during the course of one 5-day class at the Chapman Academy several years ago. No malfs other than those set-up for drills and it always made the hits where I was pointing when I did my part right. What more could you ask for in 'budget' ammo?

My old full-sized Witness 9x19 loves S&B 115 gr. JHPs. Hits 'dead-on' to the sights with it out to 50 yds., groups 5-rds. under 2" at 25 with it and never had a single malf in at least 4-5 K rds. Blazer ball runs just as reliably, but groups tend to run a bit over half-again larger. Still plenty good enough for routine plinking and practice, IMO.

Prices being what they are now, I've got to squeeze every potential shot I can out of my finite ammo budget so I tend to buy only boxer-primed, brass cased ammo when I'm looking to restock.

mgmorden
March 25, 2011, 11:58 AM
If it's the Blazer Brass line, then it's a toss up. Both brands of ammo have worked flawlessly for me in the past. If it's the aluminum cased Blazer, then I'd go with the S&B. I just have a preference for brass cases over aluminum. That's mostly as a reloader, but still.

One item of note: those I've never noticed their pistol bullets to have any steel in them, I have had a few S&B rifle bullets that had steel jackets. Not sure if it was a limited time thing or if it's down to specific lines of ammo, but I figured I'd mention it. That may or may not be an issue to you.

Also, if you're just looking for cheap practice ammo, Prvi Partizan and Magtech are also priced fairly low and are both reliable. I shoot a lot of Prvi Partizan in my handguns, and even bought 5 boxes for their .30-30 ammo for my brother a while back. That's probably enough for the forseeable future, and he's gotten every deer (and a few hogs) that he's shot with that ammo.

PabloJ
March 25, 2011, 12:27 PM
Not sure about S&B or Blazer but one can't go wrong with Swiss Made RWS-Ruag 9x19 loads @ 1000 per $200. There is remarkably little powder residue and copper washed iron jacket does not seem to lead to buildup in the barrel.

ForumSurfer
March 25, 2011, 12:32 PM
one can't go wrong with Swiss Made RWS-Ruag 9x19 loads @ 1000 per $200.

I've used that stuff, too. I liked it. Better accuracy than WWB and surplus.

The bulk price seems high, though. I was buying it at walmart for under $10 a box

JohnBiltz
March 25, 2011, 08:19 PM
I've shot a lot of S&B and its my preferred 9mm practice ammo when I can get it cheap which is fairly often. I've got about 1200 rounds of it stockpiled right now. It feels like a hot load but don't know if it is.

Maia007
March 26, 2011, 12:15 AM
I have used both S/B and Blazer Brass (FMJ) in both 9mm and 380 in about ten different autos. I shoot about 2-4k rounds each per year in these calibers (depending on what's cheap locally). I tend to buy what's cheap for practise, unless I feel a particular brand is crap. These brands are cheap and good enough and I shoot quite a bit of both.

Don't have enough experience in other calibers to be entitled to an opinion.

Both work well in 9mm and 380

The S/B is a bit hotter, has a little bit more recoil.... and is a bit more accurate in some of my autos, as a rule.

DC3-CVN-72
March 26, 2011, 02:09 AM
I have used both. like them. The S&B is loaded hotter. I have a FEG PJK-9HP that just loves the S&B 115 GRN. .9mm. :)

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