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giggitygiggity
March 25, 2011, 10:02 AM
What is the best 1911? Probably the most important quality is reliability as most 1911's are more accurate than the person firing them. Please use the poll, but feel free to add additional makes/models in posts. Thank you.

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Prosser
March 25, 2011, 10:06 AM
Custom 1911 built by JRH advanced gunsmithing.

Detonics as well.

Ed Brown are excellent. However, I'd rather have the vacation home in Hawaii then one of their guns. Use their parts
in a cheaper frame.

rellascout
March 25, 2011, 10:12 AM
It depends. What are you using the gun for and how many rounds a year are you looking to shoot out of the gun? At a certain point it becomes a matter of taste vs one is the "best".

Ed Brown
Les Baer
Wilson
Night Hawk
RRA

All will produce a great semi-custom gun it just depends on which flavor you prefer.

Smaug
March 25, 2011, 10:35 AM
I think Colt has the right mixture of production quality without being too tight so as to be impractical.

(at least with the non Gold Cup models)

Winkman822
March 25, 2011, 10:50 AM
I voted Les Baer of the listed options. Baers are the best custom gun going for the money, and the quality of parts used and the level of fitting is far beyond anything you'll get from Colt, Smith & Wesson, Kimber Springfield (non-custom shop), Para, or Sig.

THat Said, RRA also MADE outstanding 1911s, but RRA has since stopped producing 1911s and the used market for them is rather sparse. Insofar as Brown goes, they make great guns, but you'll definitely get mixed responses from people as far as after sale service from Ed Brown is concerned.

Two entries on the list that are conspicuously absent are Wilson Combat and Nighthawk Custom. They are both at about the same price point as the Ed Brown, but their after sale service is head and shoulders above that of Ed Brown. In my personal, biased opinion, I'd say the absolute best 1911s out there are going to come from Wilson Combat.

There are also great guns coming from smaller custom builders like Luke Volkmann and Dave Berryhill, but based on my personal experiences, I'll be sticking with Wilson Combat when I opt for another upper end 1911.

Remo223
March 25, 2011, 10:58 AM
NONE OF THE ABOVE

best 1911 is STI, imo

You can get a feel for which brands are tops by looking at a list of the what the competitors are using in ipsc competitions.

wilson combat has a strong showing in those competitions too.

rellascout
March 25, 2011, 11:02 AM
The criteria used to pick race guns are not the same as defensive guns IMHO. Simply because tons or people use STI for gun games does not mean that they are the "best". I personally do not like the Spartan, which is their budget gun, because I do not need or want a fiber sight.

Again how can we answer the question what is the best when we do not have enough info to make an informed statement?

Greg528iT
March 25, 2011, 11:07 AM
MINE! is the best one.

Remo223
March 25, 2011, 11:13 AM
The best plain-jane gun FOR THE MONEY is springfield, imo. You can have a gunsmith spiff it up with a few ed brown or wilson combat parts if you like.

rellascout
March 25, 2011, 11:21 AM
If I was looking for a new 1911 right now I would buy this...

No nonsense 1911 built for serious business.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=577407

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/KneightRiduh/COLT2.jpg

Upgrades:
-10-8/Vickers Hard Use Trigger (no overtravel screw hole in finger pad) installed and fitted
-Ed Brown Perfection Sear installed and fitted
-Cylinder & Slide Marine Corps Disconnector installed and fitted
-Handpicked Gold Medallion Rosewood Double Diamind Grips from Colt

*Trigger job done by the legendary Peter Dunn, formerly the Lead Engineer at Detonics. Trigger pull is at a very crisp 4lb, clean break & no creep at all. Ed Brown Sear and C&S Disconnector polished and fitted by Peter Dunn. Immaculate all business with class 1911.

Shoot her as is for 2500 to 5000 then determine if I want to change anything.

PcolaDawg
March 25, 2011, 11:25 AM
MINE! is the best one.

Mine too. Which is why I voted Kimber. :cool:

Winkman822
March 25, 2011, 11:53 AM
Mine too. Which is why I voted Kimber. :cool:
Clearly, y'all are mistaken...MY 1911's are the best ;)

Prosser
March 25, 2011, 01:09 PM
Kimber done by JRH Advanced Gunsmithing, with Ed Brown parts:1200
Detonics Combat master:1200, new recoil springs, and checked by JRH: 1200

Gig 'em
March 25, 2011, 01:25 PM
The conspicuously absent Wilson Combat would be my vote. In the non-custom category/top end category would have to be Kimber, IMHO.

Although rellascout hit the nail on the head... Purpose and intent of use are very important pieces of the puzzle. Defense, competition, concealed carry, etc. all have their own necessary criteria...

That being said, Kimber and Wison Combat have formidable offerings in most categories...

38 Super Fan
March 25, 2011, 01:32 PM
Wilson's Supergrade. ;) (Outside of a full custom 1911)

Remo223
March 25, 2011, 01:34 PM
I don't like kimber anymore. Their reputation has exceeded their quality. Lately.

ColtPythonElite
March 25, 2011, 01:39 PM
Even though I'm a Colt guy, I love my Springer.

Winkman822
March 25, 2011, 01:40 PM
I don't like kimber anymore. Their reputation has exceeded their quality. Lately.
Ladies, and gentlemen, we have a winner. I've had a few Kimber 1911s over the years, and have had more issues that I would ever expect to have from a gun that I paid better than $1k for. My Eclipse Target II is a total dog, the Royal II was meh at best, the Desert Warrior was passable, but the ambi-safety got dumped due to the right side paddle breaking off. At the Kimber price point, lately I'd say you're better off getting a Colt or Springfield.

Zerodefect
March 25, 2011, 01:46 PM
No such thing. The best is a good high end 1911 that has been customized by your favorite smith, and/or yourself, to fit your needs and hands perfectly.

For example my idea of a perfect 1911 would be:
-Les Baer or Dan Wesson Valor
-Dawson front sights, Warren Rear
-Custom cut thumb safety
-Custom Carry melt, aka aggressive dehorn
-Severns Custom Hardhat black refininsh. Everything black.

Such a thing deos not exist form any 1911 builder unless you ask them to build a custom right from the getgo. But that often costs as much or more than having a 2-3 year old 1911 fixed up. $$$$

MICHAEL T
March 25, 2011, 01:48 PM
All my Colts have come right from box reliable . That to me means the most . Iam not in to all the ad on's So the basic Colt fills the Bill. I have a Dan Wesson its nice little more accurate than my Colts But my most carried still Colt.

Madcap_Magician
March 25, 2011, 03:41 PM
If there was a best 1911, there would only be one make of them.

Rangegod
March 25, 2011, 03:49 PM
When all the best commercial and custom production manufacturers competed head to head for a lucrative government contract (FBI HRT & SWAT) this was the last gun standing:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139193&stc=1&d=1301078844

Springfield PRO

Test article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_144_24/ai_57886947/?tag=content;col1

JAC

Prion
March 25, 2011, 04:10 PM
I voted Ed Brown based on the choices on your list but I spent my coin on a Dan Wesson Valor.

38 Super Fan
March 25, 2011, 04:16 PM
When all the best commercial and custom production manufacturers competed head to head for a lucrative government contract (FBI HRT & SWAT) this was the last gun standing:



Springfield PRO

JAC

If the government says it's the best, it's just gotta be true. ;)

Norton Commando
March 25, 2011, 04:23 PM
I vote for Colt too!

drm14us
March 25, 2011, 04:38 PM
Nighthawk gets my vote.

blackfoot5
March 26, 2011, 12:14 AM
Two Rock Rivers (45 & 9mm). I shoot Bullseye....if I'm off it sure as heck isn't the gun.

wow6599
March 26, 2011, 12:22 AM
How does Rock Island have 4 votes and Ed Brown have 5?

Being from Missouri, and shooting an EB before (only once) I have to go with them.
I dream of an Ed Brown Classic Custom............someday I will have one.

Winkman822
March 26, 2011, 01:56 AM
After running 150 rounds through my Wilson Combat CQB Compact tonight, my vote unequivocally goes to them with Springfield Armory running a not too distant second insofar as production guns are concerned.

The Wilson is smooth, accurate, reliable, and easy to shoot...everything you ever need in a 1911.

dbro822
March 26, 2011, 02:07 AM
Springfield 1911A1 loaded, when they were still made in the USA. My has thousands of rounds shooting USPSA L10 class with no hick ups, love it love it!!!

38 Super Fan
March 26, 2011, 02:16 AM
Two Rock Rivers (45 & 9mm). I shoot Bullseye....if I'm off it sure as heck isn't the gun.

RRA made some outstanding 1911s.:)

DeepSouth
March 26, 2011, 02:19 AM
Colt's are my favorite, but I have found the Springers to be more reliable, especially with that lifetime warranty. But with Les Baer on the list, I can't honestly vote for either of them. Anybody who voted for something other than the Baer hasn't handled one, they are in an entirely different class than the others on that list, with a possible exception of Ed Brown, IMO.

glassfixer
March 26, 2011, 04:29 AM
I really do like my Stainless Kimber Gold Match. Very accurate and has a great trigger. - Glassfixer

nwilliams
March 26, 2011, 05:18 AM
As far as I'm concerned Colt still makes the best 1911, everything else is just a copy.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb264/nwilliams27/Colt%20Commander/ColtCommander-4.jpg

EddieNFL
March 26, 2011, 07:57 AM
If the government says it's the best, it's just gotta be true.

"Best" price.

...everything else is just a copy.

Love my copies.

EddieNFL
March 26, 2011, 08:05 AM
ZD has posted the most correct answer..."No such thing."

I would estimate 90 plus percent of the votes are based on what the voter owns.

Old Shooter
March 26, 2011, 09:32 AM
Colt

IF I had the money to try them all I might have voted differently, but I don't so I didn't.

My Colts have worked perfectly for me, I'm sure the others listed are all fine pistols also.

giggitygiggity
March 26, 2011, 06:13 PM
It seems like the Colt is the answer. Does anyone have any experience with their XSE 1911 pistols? How does the Colt XSE series rate in comparison to other 1911's? Also, how does the Colt XSE rate when compared to the Springfield Custom Loaded? Thank you.

The Wiry Irishman
March 26, 2011, 06:44 PM
I prefer SVIs, but rellascout and others are right in pointing out this is very subjective and largely pointless without some additional context as to intended use.

Remo223
March 26, 2011, 07:57 PM
ahhhh, SVI. forgot about them.

1st place: STI
2nd place: wilson combat
3rd place: SVI

blackfoot5
March 26, 2011, 10:40 PM
38 Super Fan,
They do make some fine pistols (RRA). I probably have around 60-70K through the 45 and gun is still tight and it still groups 1 5/8" @ 50 yds. Heard a rumor Chuck might start building Bullseye guns again.....hope so. I want another one! You couldn't go wrong with a Les Baer or Ed Brown either. (IMHO) gene

Cowboy1629
March 27, 2011, 01:21 AM
Wilson Combat Supergrade.

I have the following 1911's:

Colt
Ed Brown
Kimber
Les Baer
Para Ordnance
Sig
Smith and Wesson
Springfield
STI

And from all of these the Wilson Supergrade is by far the best fit/finish quality and reliable 1911 I own. However I must say the new STI USPSA Single Stack I have has now fired over 2000 rounds and shot in two USPSA matches without the first hiccup. Not bad for a gun that cost a fraction of the Wilson, Brown, or Bare.

38 Super Fan
March 27, 2011, 01:41 AM
38 Super Fan,
They do make some fine pistols (RRA). I probably have around 60-70K through the 45 and gun is still tight and it still groups 1 5/8" @ 50 yds. Heard a rumor Chuck might start building Bullseye guns again.....hope so. I want another one! You couldn't go wrong with a Les Baer or Ed Brown either. (IMHO) gene

My Limited Match and Basic LM have been awesome, I'm no where near that many rounds though. :)

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n602/hackman1911/RRAX2012.jpg

I hope RRA does get back into 1911s, they were great, I'd love to have another LM.

Auto426
March 27, 2011, 03:45 AM
If you are using this poll to choose your next 1911, you are going about this wrong. The "best" 1911 is entirely subjective, depending on your budget, wants, needs, etc. For some people a $400 RIA is the best, since it's cheap and will work great for their limited needs. For others, nothing less than a $5000 full blown custom will do, since they have the needs and the skills to wring every last bit of performance out of the gun, or maybe they just have an unlimited budget and enjoy expensive toys.

If I had to name the absolute "best" 1911, then it would probably be something from one of the various master 1911 smith's like John Harrison or Ted Yost. However, while I dream about them, I don't have the cash. Right now, the "best" for me is Colt. They build a better gun than most of their competitors, and I love their classic style and history.

BlayGlock
March 27, 2011, 04:06 AM
I've owned 1 or more 1911 from all the top semi-custom builders except SVI. My pick: Guncrafter Industries hands down my favorite.

rightside
March 27, 2011, 11:52 AM
Springfield Custom.....:neener:

sammy
March 27, 2011, 12:08 PM
Sorry for the bad picture but Les Baer 1911's have my vote. Very well made, accurate, eats anything. This one has 15,000 rounds through it as of now. It is not "Baer" tight anymore and the rifiling is showing some wear as is the finish but this is the gun I shoot best. The guns favorite load is a 230g. Golden Saber over 7.4 grains of Power Pistol. Very stout load but it is the most accurate one I have found to date. This pict is a full 8 round magazine at 15 yards freehand on a good day.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x183/carcrazysammy/P1010186.jpg

bds
March 27, 2011, 12:27 PM
What? Best 1911 poll thread and no STI, Dan Wesson, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc.?

Ala Dan
March 27, 2011, 01:53 PM
Les Baer ;) :D

gwnorth
March 27, 2011, 03:54 PM
I voted Colt, as my two have been flawless. Then again, the only other 1911's I've owned are a Taurus PT1911 and a S&W, neither of which ever gave me any problems either.

The poll is kind of pointless unless those responding have owned at least several models from each of those manufacturers. Otherwise, all anybody can do is pick based on their own experience, which means the poll is incredibly biased.

Jed Carter
March 27, 2011, 04:57 PM
STI make the best 1911 these days, in days gone by it was Colt. Baer and Brown make good semicustom pistols as do Wilson and Nighthawk, the STI may not be the prettiest girl at the dance, just the best dancer.

Remo223
March 27, 2011, 07:26 PM
agreed.

Wouldn't surprise me if colt doesn't even make their own 1911s anymore...probably contracted out.

SwampWolf
March 28, 2011, 03:32 PM
I don't claim it's the best 1911 ever made or being made, but my favorite one is a Colt Series 70 Gold Cup that I bought new in the early seventies. I've shot it extensively over the years in Bullseye meets and it has never let me down, shooting mostly my own reloads.

bobnailer
March 28, 2011, 11:51 PM
What is the best 1911? The one in your hand when that bad day comes and some bad man tries to take your life or the life of a loved-one and you drop the bad man with your 1911, that's the best 1911 in the world.
Bob

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
March 29, 2011, 01:54 AM
Taurus

rmarsh56
March 29, 2011, 11:39 AM
I have a Rock Island, and love it. After I had my gunsmith do a throat and polish job and install a heavier recoil spring, it has been 100% reliable and accurate. However, if I could do it all over again, I'd probably spend a little extra money and get a Springfield just because of the higher resale value.

ninja45
March 30, 2011, 07:43 PM
My Les Baer is like one solid chunk of steel but it works 100 percent and is super accurate! YMMV, but I voted the best in my stable of about a dozen different models in my possession.

bc1023
March 30, 2011, 08:01 PM
The semi-custom guns are great, like these from Nighthawk, RRA, Les Baer, Springfield, Wilson, Guncrafter, Ed Brown, and Volkmann.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3761.jpg







However, the full custom guns from the top builders are where the best 1911s lie.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/064.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/060-1.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/056-1.jpg

RH45
March 30, 2011, 08:22 PM
I voted Ed Brown.

I either own, have owned, or shot all of what you have listed. You asked which was BEST, not, best value, for the money.

bc1023
March 30, 2011, 08:36 PM
STI make the best 1911 these days, in days gone by it was Colt. Baer and Brown make good semicustom pistols as do Wilson and Nighthawk, the STI may not be the prettiest girl at the dance, just the best dancer.

I'm surprised there are a couple votes for STI, to be honest. I like them myself, but I don't feel they're on par with even the semi-custom guns, let alone some of the full blown custom 1911s.

My favorite STI is the now discontinued Legacy.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/046.jpg





Now, I could certainly see an argument for SVI to be among the best 1911s. These are top quality, full custom builds.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/034-1.jpg

38 Super Fan
March 30, 2011, 09:08 PM
Yeah, set em' straight Brian! :D

The Wiry Irishman
March 30, 2011, 09:33 PM
Now, I could certainly see an argument for SVI to be among the best 1911s. These are top quality, full custom builds

My thoughts exactly. The only reasons you see STIs dominating the ranks of the run-and-gun shooters is because they build several thousand guns a year and SVI makes about 300. Also, SVI do not sell their frames to gunsmiths.

gohogs93
March 30, 2011, 09:56 PM
Of the options listed, Ed Brown. Of all of them, Wilson Combat.

Nacho Libre
March 30, 2011, 09:58 PM
I vote Ed Brown with RRA and Springfield a clsoe second.

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