bullet weight for .22-250?


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MATT .45-70
March 27, 2011, 06:39 PM
Anybody have a bullet weight that they like for .22-250? I am reloading for a savage 12 with a 26'' barrel and a 1 in 12'' twist rate. I would like to stick to Hornady but I am open to other brands.

Also any recipies or other tips and information are welcome.

Thanks for your time

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rcmodel
March 27, 2011, 06:42 PM
For a 1/12 barrel I would think 55 grain Hornady V-Max or Nosler Ballistic-Tips would be hard to beat for varmint hunting.

It probably will not stabilize bullets much heavier then 60 grain. Especially the longer plastic tip ones.

rc

ranger335v
March 27, 2011, 07:28 PM
I use and like weights from 36 gr. to 60 gr. in my 1970 1:14 twist Browning/Sako Safari.

lightman
March 27, 2011, 07:49 PM
Bullets from 45-55 grain are perfect for the 22-250,unless you have a custom barrel with a fast twist.I also like the V-max and Nosler BT. Lightman

NCsmitty
March 27, 2011, 10:14 PM
My bullet du jour for my 22-250 is the 52gr Hornady A-Max and it's superb for target and works on game, or so I'm told. I have some 52gr Nosler Custom Competition that I would like to try, as I have always had good results with Nosler bullets.

My rifle is a 24" Remington barreled, Mauser action that I put together a while ago and it has a 1in14" twist.



NCsmitty

mrbro
March 27, 2011, 10:43 PM
My son's really likes Sierra 52g MKs over 4064

spoogie
March 27, 2011, 10:53 PM
I'm partial to 50 gr. Hornady VMAX in a Rem 700. Barrel length is the same, but twist is 1:14.

But, I've only shot 60 gr. Hornady SP, and 55 gr. VMAX's.

Play with the Greenhill equation (http://kwk.us/twist.html). or http://kwk.us/twist.html

Pretty outdated, but it's a starting point.

-S

ricehombre
March 27, 2011, 11:54 PM
I use Hornady 60gr SP over RL 15 in Icon with 1-12. Works great.

jb27
March 28, 2011, 02:07 AM
I have a Ruger Mark II .22-250 with 1:14 twist. I couldn't get a 55 grain bullet to pattern well. Switched to Nosler 40gr Ballistic Tips and it'll shoot 1/4" at 100 yds. I'm also working up a load using 52gr Nosler Custom Competition bullets. I'm still tweaking but i've seen a few groups under 3/4" at 100 yds. I'm using Varget for all loads btw.

Cemetery21
March 28, 2011, 06:08 PM
I used 50 and 55 gr Hornady SP for years, before the advent of poly tipped bullets. Excellent prairie dog medicine with WW760 powder. 4064 is great, too, but 760 meters better when drop charging.

ColtPythonElite
March 28, 2011, 06:50 PM
I use a Ruger MK II Target. 55 gr V-Max bullets over 36.0 gr. of Varget give me 100 yard groups with all the shots touching.

hey_poolboy
March 28, 2011, 09:50 PM
I have a sporty Mauser with a Kimber barrel in .22-250 with a 1:14 twist. To date the load that has given me the best accuracy has been 50gr V-max on top of 36.8gr of Varget. I usually seat to about .004 short of the lands.

Lighter bullets have proven to be accurate as well. I have used Hornady's factory 40gr. loads with great success. Maybe it's just been my barrels, but I've never had any luck over 55gr with a 1:14.

MATT .45-70
April 2, 2011, 12:15 AM
been doing a little shooting with factory ammo that was on sale, so i bought a couple boxes just to see if i could find a bullet weight my rifle likes.

It seems to hate 55 grain bullets lol almost a 6" group at 100 yards with bench and rest, however 45 grain bullets pattern at about 2 1/2" group under same conditions. I am going to start with reloading some 40 grain and some 45 grain bullets and go from there

hey_poolboy
April 2, 2011, 09:42 AM
Do a ladder test and check the accuracy of each load.
I load mine up in 1/2 grain increments and never test at less than 200yards. They seem to stabilize better after the 100 yard mark. After I fire the loads in the 1/2 grain increments and find the best group I then go up and down from the winning charge in .1grain increments till I find the best one. My current recipe in .22-250 gets me a .8" group at 235yards. (so long as I can keep up my end of the shooting)

28lx
April 3, 2011, 06:04 PM
+ 1 on the 52 grain Match Kings

Ala Dan
April 3, 2011, 08:20 PM
I use to use Hornady 55 grain SX (super xplosive) back when I loaded for a
Remington 700 BDL~! :cool: ;)

LOLBELL
April 3, 2011, 10:02 PM
Matt 45-70
I did the same thing you are doing with a Tikka with 24" heavy barrel. With premimum ammo I could not get anything under 4 or 5 inches. But I was using 55 grain bullets in all factory loads. I happened on some Winchester 40 round white box ammo in 45 grn HP's. That brought my groups down to about 3/4 inches. And it was cheap. $27 for 40 rounds. I now load 50 VMax and
H414 to get one small ragged hole at 100 and 5/8" at 200. Mine has a 1 in 14 twist and hates anything heavier than 50 grns. I can get equally good groups with anything from 36 grns to 50 grns

murf
April 4, 2011, 01:44 AM
matt 45-70, what are you going to do with your savage? paper shoot? prarie dogs? white tail? anyway, your rifle will tell you what bullet weight it likes. choose a common powder and start experimenting with different bullet weights and bullet shapes. this is what is so durn fun (and expensive) about handloading and shooting. it is rather addicting.

murf

p.s. welcome to thr!

joed
April 4, 2011, 07:13 AM
I have been fooling with the .22-250 for about a year now. This cartridge is different than anything I've ever loaded before. Unless I seat the bullet to the max length in the manual or shorter the groups just fall apart.

So far I've tried Sierra 55 Blitz Kings, 52 gr Sierra match, 55 gr Hornady Vmax, 55 gr Nosler BT and 50 gr Nosler BT.

The only bullets that shot decent for me are the Sierra, the best being the 52 gr.

Look at what everyone else is shooting out of their 250 or Swift and you'll probably find most are using the 52 gr bullet, there is a reason for this.

I'm still looking at powders. H380 was a good one but way to temperature sensitive for my liking. Every month over the course of a year I've watched the POI change with the temperature. Over the past year the POI has changed by over 3".

I'm now using Varget and notice no difference with temps. One thing I've noticed with Varget is I can't get anywhere near the velocity shown in the manuals. My first decent shooting group was 36.5 gr of Varget with the 52 gr Sierra. However, when I ran it over a chrono I found the velocity to be 3520 fps. When I got to 38.0 gr it shot as good as the 36.5 gr load and velocity was slightly over 3700 fps. No one else seems to have noticed this problem with Varget, maybe they aren't shooting over a chrono, but I do.

BoilerUP
April 4, 2011, 08:01 AM
+1 on the 52gr A-Max.

Work well out of both my 14-twist 22-250 and 9-twist 223.

spoogie
April 4, 2011, 09:38 AM
joed: I've kind of noticed the same as far as loading to max length, but I've only tried 2.350" and .030" off my rifling. Which is 2.410+/-?. I've shot Varget and H380, but only a few loads of each, so far. Had such good luck with my first 2 loads that I haven't played with it much (that, and it's been winter). My gun seems to like light loads seated at 2.35.

33 gr. Varget, CCI primer, Win Brass, 50 gr. Hornady Vmax is a 5 shot group, an inch at 100 yds. Which isn't that impressive, but, considering it was the first load I tried, I was happy.

35 gr. H380, CCI, Win Brass, 60 gr. Hornady Soft Pt. ... shot my first cloverleaf with this one, but the other 2 shots were 1" and 1.5" away. But, I seated this one longer, and I don't have my notebook in front of me and can't recall what length I used.

I just need to go do some more shooting. I'll be buyin' the big jug of Varget.

-s

Kevin Rohrer
April 4, 2011, 09:59 AM
I was using 55gr Speer SP and 35gr of 4064. Groups were 1/2MOA.

I am now experimenting w/ 55gr Vmax and 36.0gr of Varget. I will also be trying 8208.

ole farmerbuck
April 4, 2011, 10:32 AM
I use 35.0 grains of 8208 and 52gr A-Max. Excellent!! Savage lightweight barrel.

MATT .45-70
April 4, 2011, 12:33 PM
I was actually shooting the white box winchesters to get my tightest group

This rifle is primarily for coyotes and occasional bobcat, and also target shooting

I was originaly planning on using IMR 4064, because I already use it for .270
but I im thinking about using varget maybe, I think I will first try the 4064 though.

I still need to play with bullet weights though, Im going to start loading and testing soon.

murf
April 4, 2011, 01:17 PM
matt 45-70,

i like reloader 15 in my 22-250 and 220 swift. a 55 grain bullet may be better for thumpin coyotes at 3 or 400 yards. but, a 50 grain is most accurate in my 22-250. have fun with it.

murf

DANNY-L
April 4, 2011, 04:28 PM
50gr.nosler BT and 35.8gr. IMR4064 is perfect for my rem 700

joed
April 4, 2011, 06:53 PM
joed: I've kind of noticed the same as far as loading to max length, but I've only tried 2.350" and .030" off my rifling. Which is 2.410+/-?. I've shot Varget and H380, but only a few loads of each, so far. Had such good luck with my first 2 loads that I haven't played with it much (that, and it's been winter). My gun seems to like light loads seated at 2.35.

No idea why but anything over the 2.350 in the 2 rifles I'm loading for gets 3" groups. You aren't the first to tell me your rifle is picky too.

When I started loading for my friend's 250 last April I could not get groups under 3" seating the bullet out. Yet factory Remington would shoot 3/4" groups in his rifle. I had a lot of posts on here about it. Someone finally told me to go back to the max length in the manual, it was on this forum too. Soon as I did that the groups dropped to 1/2".

In Oct I picked up my 250 and noticed the same thing again, I have to keep the length under 2.350. For years I heard H380 was the powder to use in this cartridge. But we both noticed that every month the POI would change. Finally in November it changed by a total of 3" and we moved on to Varget. Over the winter using Varget the groups only varied by 1/2" lower, big difference from H380.

Varget has worked well but shooting over a chrony I noticed the speed was very low for published loads. The only manual I have that shows the .38.0 gr load is my Lyman and I can hit their velocity. The 36.5 gr load wasn't much better then a .223 for velocity and many of my loading manuals had that as a max charge. The .38.0 gr load shows no signs of high pressure so I use it.

I also use Varget in .308 and that one needs 1.5 gr over manual to equal the published velocity.

One of the places I frequent is Stevespages, lots of reloading info there. He had the same complaint about Varget, only he said in his opinion it sucks. I just think there are some big lot to lot differences with it. When my canister runs out and if I buy another it will be interesting to see how the next lot works out.

Still looking at other powders at present and not sure what I'm going to try next.

The .22-250 has humbled me for reloading. All the other guns and cartridges I have are not picky on bullets. So far mine only likes Sierra and only the 52 gr match or lead tipped 55 gr.

I tried the 50 gr Nosler BT thinking that would be a good one. Nope, 1.5" groups.

Red Cent
April 4, 2011, 07:43 PM
M700 action, Douglas 26" one inch bull barrel, 53 gr Sierra HPBT, 3031. Start with about 32grs and work up to the sweet spot.

ole farmerbuck
April 4, 2011, 11:27 PM
No idea why but anything over the 2.350 in the 2 rifles I'm loading for gets 3" groups. You aren't the first to tell me your rifle is picky too.

When I started loading for my friend's 250 last April I could not get groups under 3" seating the bullet out. Yet factory Remington would shoot 3/4" groups in his rifle. I had a lot of posts on here about it. Someone finally told me to go back to the max length in the manual, it was on this forum too. Soon as I did that the groups dropped to 1/2".

In Oct I picked up my 250 and noticed the same thing again, I have to keep the length under 2.350. For years I heard H380 was the powder to use in this cartridge. But we both noticed that every month the POI would change. Finally in November it changed by a total of 3" and we moved on to Varget. Over the winter using Varget the groups only varied by 1/2" lower, big difference from H380.

Varget has worked well but shooting over a chrony I noticed the speed was very low for published loads. The only manual I have that shows the .38.0 gr load is my Lyman and I can hit their velocity. The 36.5 gr load wasn't much better then a .223 for velocity and many of my loading manuals had that as a max charge. The .38.0 gr load shows no signs of high pressure so I use it.

I also use Varget in .308 and that one needs 1.5 gr over manual to equal the published velocity.

One of the places I frequent is Stevespages, lots of reloading info there. He had the same complaint about Varget, only he said in his opinion it sucks. I just think there are some big lot to lot differences with it. When my canister runs out and if I buy another it will be interesting to see how the next lot works out.

Still looking at other powders at present and not sure what I'm going to try next.

The .22-250 has humbled me for reloading. All the other guns and cartridges I have are not picky on bullets. So far mine only likes Sierra and only the 52 gr match or lead tipped 55 gr.

I tried the 50 gr Nosler BT thinking that would be a good one. Nope, 1.5" groups.
My 250's are the same way. I load em short and use IMR8208. I can grab the lightweight Savage out of the safe and not have to worry about where its going to shoot.. I too was having trouble with H380. I need to sell about 16lbs!

joed
April 5, 2011, 07:12 AM
My 250's are the same way. I load em short and use IMR8208. I can grab the lightweight Savage out of the safe and not have to worry about where its going to shoot.. I too was having trouble with H380. I need to sell about 16lbs!

Ole Farmerbuck, I actually think it was you that told me to try the 2.350 length. That rifle almost drove me nuts with 3" groups. Once the length got short it started to shoot.

That was a friends' rifle. I now have one and it's the same way. Mine actually likes the bullets at 2.325.

Now I need to find another powder as I'm not sold on the Varget anymore. It shoots quite well but for the life of me I have no idea how these load manuals can come up with the velocity they do.

I've been looking at 8208 but just haven't found it yet. Another I'm looking at is 4007 ssc. And I'm glad I didn't buy a large quantity of H380. The H380 shot the most accurate but every month the POI would change, just doesn't work well in OH where temps range between 20 and 80 degrees all year long.

joed
April 5, 2011, 07:25 AM
I'm curious how the IMR8208 works for you.

ole farmerbuck
April 5, 2011, 07:43 AM
I'm curious how the IMR8208 works for you.
I think 8208 is the way to go for my AR's and 22-250's. RL10X isnt bad but i still go back to the 8208. I have plenty of it for that reason. I also have many different powders, 335,blc-2 and so on. My 250's are .350 or a little less too.

ole farmerbuck
April 5, 2011, 07:45 AM
Dont do it because I say so but I think you will find that 8208 likes to be loaded toward the max.

spoogie
April 5, 2011, 10:16 AM
Ever try 'em .010" off your rifling or so? I haven't and I'm reluctant to do so with a hot load. I'd work my way up, of course, but, even when I'm still a grain or two off max. with H380, it sure seems like a smack of recoil. Loaded to 2.350", that is. But, not showing any signs of pressure on the primers.

-S

MtnCreek
April 5, 2011, 10:27 AM
I've had best luck w/ 50 to 55 gr projectiles in the 250.

UltraMag1981
April 5, 2011, 09:12 PM
My Savage 10 Predator with the 1:12 twist barrel loves 35.2gr of IMR 4064 with 55gr Sierra Blitzkings seated just off of the lands! They are averaging right around 3500fps aswell.

wsmreloader
April 5, 2011, 09:41 PM
I just purchased a Howa 22-250 and am loading varget under 55 grain Hornady FMJ. I haven't fine tuned the loads yet, but am shooting just under an inch at 100 yards. I haven't chronographed the load yet, but I don't get excited when my rifle shoots a little slower than the test barrels shown in the reloading manuals. If I'm shooting a 22inch barrel rifle and the test barrel is a 26" barrel, my load should be somewhere around 200fps slower. I'm way more interested in speed variance between cartridges, than how fast I can make a projectile go. My goal is less than 20fps spread from fastest cartridge to slowest cartridge. If I can do that, I can figure out where the bullet is gonna hit 500 yards down range and use optics to aim just a little higher than the faster boolit.

sig220mw
April 5, 2011, 10:59 PM
I have a Ruger model 77 that is now probably 20 years old have good luck with nosler 55 grain ballistic tips and hornady 60 grain spires. I've tried a few powders but always come back to imr 4350 & 4064. Both work well for me.

Rokman
April 6, 2011, 08:35 PM
I like to use 55gr Nosler ballistic tips, 52gr Amax, 55gr Sierra Gamekings and 55gr Varmint Nightmare Extremes from Midsouth Shooters Supply. I really Like Varget and RL15 and have tried IMR8028 with just fair success.

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