traded my Mod.37 "J" for a new LCR


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forgetitohio
March 31, 2011, 06:10 PM
Traded my Airweight and $150 for a new LCR. The A/W was just to pretty to CC and it had a 3"BBL. I have trouble hidding a gun cause I'm not a BIG guy.

With the LCR I can CC better, shoot +P, shorter BBL. hammerless and lighter. All pluses for me. I own a Kel-Tec .380 so I can CC in different situations.

I know the guy who owns the shop so when I told him what I wanted to do he walked to the back and came out with the LCR box and started the paperwork.

Heading out to try out my new gun. I have my re-loads and some factory.
Anybody have a good/bad experince with LCR or ammo?

link for review of LCR from Police One.
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/2010527-Product-Review-Ruger-LCR-Double-Action-Revolver/

also in the article is the subject of using factory-loaded wadcutters. talked about on another thread.

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Vonderek
March 31, 2011, 07:35 PM
You got anything else you want to trade?

Remo223
March 31, 2011, 07:42 PM
the 37 is worth 250 and the LCR worth 400. I guess you did ok.

I'd rather have the 37 though.

Ala Dan
March 31, 2011, 10:34 PM
OH NO~! You didn't, did you~?

Regardless of value, I would have kept the Smith 3" 37 Airweight~! You know
they are not very plentiful, don't you~? :scrutiny: :uhoh: :eek: :(

bikemutt
March 31, 2011, 10:51 PM
I've had the LCR for a couple months now, no complaints. Shooting it for fun is a contradiction in terms but, it's not my range gun.

Mine spends most of it's time in the center console loaded with Hornady Critical Defense JHP rounds, out of sight, never out of mind.

Have fun with your new one.

Old 112
March 31, 2011, 11:04 PM
Please post your shooting results along with opinions on
the Ruger.

It sounds like it meets your need for carry
and concealability. That is always a good thing.


Regards,
Old 112

451 Detonics
March 31, 2011, 11:42 PM
I am surprised the dealer didn't run to get the box.

the 37 is worth 250 and the LCR worth 400.

Please tell me where I can buy a 3 inch 37 that is in excellent condition (The A/W was just to pretty to CC) for $250...I want to buy 2 dozen...

Phydeaux642
March 31, 2011, 11:43 PM
the 37 is worth 250

:what:I'll buy a couple at that price, and I don't even like 3" j-frames.

ArchAngelCD
April 1, 2011, 12:04 AM
For less money you could have gotten the S&W 38 Bodyguard which has in internal laser.

JellyJar
April 1, 2011, 12:14 AM
Did the 37 have MIM parts or was it an older vintage?

Remo223
April 1, 2011, 12:21 AM
well, I kinda missed the part about the 3" barrel. I don't know what those are worth. they're kinda rare.

EMC45
April 1, 2011, 11:10 AM
WOW!!!!! 3in J frame traded for a plastic revolver?!?!?!?!?!? (Sorry, "space age polymer") Is this a pre April Fools joke a day early?

OldCavSoldier
April 1, 2011, 11:56 AM
I think you got taken. I wouldn't take $2000 for my factory nickel M37 (2", 1974 mfg)...although it is probably due to whom I bought it from, the number of years it was my sock-gun, and the number of times is was called on to perform.....

forgetitohio
April 1, 2011, 11:56 AM
I knew I'd tick off the S&W community but had to do it.
I bought the Smith at my gun club's "buy sell trade" week-end about 10?yrs. ago. I know this is cruel but it was 2wks. before Xmas. I paid $200 for it. Now they have it in the summer. LOL

I sold a S&W .38/44. I think it's called a heavy duty?? Had the box with the wax paper rapping. Don't know much about it cause I bought it the day before. Also sold a Caspian .45.
So $250(I didn't have the box so that's $25 there) was OK. If you get down to it the 37 was free from the profit from the other 2 guns and a extra chrony I had.

I had a friend who had been collecting since the '70s and wanted to do other things like make a bunch of money selling crap on E- Bay. He could wheel and deal. I've seen about every gun out there. Got great deals on his guns.
He dumped his wife and hooked up with a 40yr. old. Got two 20yrs. olds for her(just kidding he's 65) bought two Harleys and a AirStream. He's on the road somewhere. That was 6yrs. ago.

No. I don't have any more 37s. I'm down to 13 firearms now.
Next to go is a Marlin1894c made in '95 and a russian Makarov.

Someone asked how the LCR shot?
It was getting dark and I could only put 50rds. thru it. The grip is alittle funky but the DA trigger is sweet. I shot some light loads(125gr,LSWC 750fps.) I had for the 37 so the recoil wasn't bad. I shot a USPSA target at 7- 10yds. The last 5 were in the "A" zone. Other than about 6 rnds. all were on paper.
I'm going to load up some +Ps today and see how they feel.
Everybody have a good week-end; I am. Sorry for rambling on.

forgetitohio
April 1, 2011, 02:55 PM
For all the S&W people here's a 3" 37 J.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=211165480#PIC

Mine was alittle cleaner than this one they couldn't sell.
"The value of a gun is what someone is willing to pay for it" ...Tom D.(me)
Off to shoot my plastic gun with +Ps.


It would indeed be a tragedy if the history of the human race proved to be nothing more than the story of an ape playing with a box of matches on a petrol dump. - David Ormsby Gore

MK11
April 1, 2011, 05:21 PM
Your reasons for making the trade are perfectly sound. Don't worry about the "S&W community," sacred cows don't always fall to reason. Enjoy.

Zundfolge
April 1, 2011, 05:26 PM
Ya know, I probably wouldn't have made this trade, but its real hard to argue against the logic of trading a gun that's just going to sit in the safe collecting dust for one that's going to go with you everywhere ... collecting lint (but maybe saving your life someday).

bannockburn
April 1, 2011, 07:56 PM
forgetitohio

Okay so I probably wouldn't have made this trade either (always have had a soft spot for 3" J frames), but it worked out fine for you and that's all that really matters. Enjoy your new LCR.

Cosmoline
April 1, 2011, 08:04 PM
Traded my Airweight and $150 for a new LCR. The A/W was just to pretty to CC and it had a 3"BBL.

Ouch. You should have asked around first on that one. I agree with Phydeaux642's reaction. I haven't seen hide nor hair of ANY J frames locally for years. They're difficult to obtain and not cheap at all. I would not rank them inferior to an LCR. Maybe the other way around though. No way, under ANY circumstances, would I trade a good condition 37 or 36 for an LCR, let alone adding cash to the deal. Let alone one of the PRIZED 3" models. Someone did VERY well off you I'm afraid.

Sold at $415:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213530480

Sold at $401:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216742691

Sold at $367 after a flurry of 20 bids:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=220999550

EMC45
April 1, 2011, 10:07 PM
I'm sure the gunshop owner is sporting a very large grin today.....

Gary A
April 1, 2011, 11:47 PM
forgetitohio - I hope it is consoling to say I have made good trades and bad trades but in the end I figure if you get what you want, you did OK. You'll have the gun far longer than you would have 150 bucks in any case. Enjoy your LCR.

forgetitohio
April 2, 2011, 01:22 AM
Thank you all for the comments.

I figured a Ruger in the hand is better than a S&W on my nite stand. AND I know where my J went. It has a better home than mine.
The shop owner's brother ended up with it and was told he has a bunch of S&Ws. I also have visitation rights. LOL

I know S&W are nice guns and it was kinda GETTING rare being they quit making A/W Js them in '95?? But this wasn't a shooter.

My other guns I have for SD is limited.
I have 3 .22 pistols, my 2 SS GP 100s 4" and 6" BBL,.380 Makarov W/10rd.mag. my P3AT, Para 14 hi-cap .45 and my USPSA limited singal stack race gun I built.
I carried the Makarov 1 day; it weighs 26OZs not loaded. Might as well CC my .45.
IF I had to use it my life was in the hands of a P3AT. That's why I started CC with the J.

I know the shop owner and he's cut me deals on bullets, powder and primers in the past.
I don't feel screwed on the J. He knows that ended up with a nice gun for cheap and I got a better CC gun for ME.

I talked to him today after shooting the LCR cause he wanted to know what I thought of it. We talked about the LCR laser grip and holsters; told me I could have them for 10%over his price. So we're good.

I went to the club today and did some barrier and window shooting, also duck and move exercises. The LCR worked great with +Ps and some gun show bought ammo. I wasn't worried about hitting on the walls or scraping the ground when I went on my belly. I was really surprized how well I shot it weak hand.
I loaded 125GR.JHPs w/ 5.5 GR. of 231 for +Ps. about 950fps. Store bought were 158GR. Both shot well but I'm liking the 125s better.

I found my 15th edition re-load book for Winchester , 1995 Hodgdon and my Hodgdon book I got with my press. If anbody needs some info let me know.
But it's good night for now.

tdv
April 2, 2011, 09:36 PM
I bought an LCR in .357 mag when they first came out in that caliber. I have not owned one in .38 Special though. I have owned and carried numerous snub-nose revolvers from most manufacturers. I am solidly loyal to the Smith and Wesson models, like the M37. I am also a huge fan of Rugers SP101 in .357 mag. But if I open my mind, I must say, no new age revolver has struck my fancy like the LCR! It is a shooter, especially for a compact .357 mag. The fired rounds stack on top the front sight, well regulated. I shoot 158 gr JHP ammo in all my .357 mags. The action is ingenious to say the least. You would be hard pressed to tune a Smith and Wesson revolver as slick, especially with no light strikes, etc for total reliability. Isn't that why we choose a revolver for concealed carry and defensive use...they should always work! I think you should shoot, carry, and master your LCR. I believe Ruger now has singly revolutionized the snub-nose revolver. Enough so, to lure me away from my affinity for Smith and Wesson revolvers of similar class. The LCR is a great new design, I highly recommend if you purchase one, get it in .357 mag. You can always shoot .38 Special or even +P loads as an option. I definately trust my life on the LCR as a carry weapon, particularly when a larger pistol is not manageable for the environment your in. Good job Ruger, your LCR earned my favor and trust! tdv

forgetitohio
April 3, 2011, 09:39 PM
tdv

I called most of the gun shops looking for the .357 but could locate 1 .38sp. Most of them couldn't tell me when they could get them.

I love the .357 rd. especially in my Ruger. There are so many different loads and bullets to experiment with.
I have a red dot scope on my GP100 6" and can do clay pigeons @ 50yrs. I can scare them @100yrs. I'm using 20gr. H110 with a 125gr. bullet. Pushing 1900fps.
With my hottest .38 I have to aim about 10-12 inces over the target @100yrs. The .357 shoots flat.

I owned a Ruger .357/9mm convertible; sold it before I found out people were "drilling out" the 9mm. cylinder to .357 MAX. That has to be fun to shoot.

tdv
April 4, 2011, 04:22 AM
Forgetitohio...
I hope to can locate an LCR in .357 mag. I was in my local gunshop today, and introduced an older Vietnam vet to the LCR. He dry fired a couple and was amazed at the slick action out of the box. He like me, is a loyal Smith and Wesson fan. Ruger appears to have done some great engineering on the LCR. Unlike some recent Ruger offerings, I have not heard of any recalls on the LCR, and they have been out awhile now. I certainly like my LCR in .357 mag, and will post a thread immediately if I ever experience any problem with it.

ArchAngelCD
April 4, 2011, 05:37 AM
Traded my Airweight and $150 for a new LCR. The A/W was just to pretty to CC and it had a 3"BBL. I have trouble hiding a gun cause I'm not a BIG guy.
I agree with some of the above posts, I think you sold yourself short. Around here where I live a good M36 with a 2" barrel will sell for between $400 and $500, the 3" barrel revolvers are even more because they are rarely seen. I'm guessing the M37 will command similar prices although I can't ever remember seeing a M37 with a 3" barrel for sale anywhere around here or the shows. I think you could have gone straight up on that trade BUT, if you're happy with the trade than it's a good deal.

Stainz
April 4, 2011, 07:16 AM
I won't pile-on re your deal. If both parties come away from a deal happy, it was a good deal. Of course, a gun dealer is unlikely to ever come away from a deal less than satisfied. I am not an LCR fan, having shot several in the last year or so - and, afterwards, happy as a lark that I still have a 642. The LCR is lighter than a new stock 642 - but, to me at least - has a decidedly toy-like feel, not longevity inspiring. Dry-firing with ear protection off will instill that feeling even more. Remington R38S12 +P 158gr LHPSWC's were shot, along with 125gr +P's and plinkers. Accuracy was recoil acceptable... but it sounded like the gun was on the verge of dissassembling itself. I guess I'll lump it with your KelTec, another gun you'll never find in my collection (I got my wife a Seecamp - I have only revolvers.), and state that if you are happy with it - and it suits your needs - I am happy for you. Please carry the LCR for personal protection, however.

Stainz

forgetitohio
April 4, 2011, 09:22 PM
tdv

The ONLY problem I have with the LCR is the trigger.
Not the pull or where it breaks, love that, it needs some "roughing up".

It's too smooth. I'm thinking of my dremel making vertical cuts or criss-cross.
Maybe a metal punch or the grip sandpaper used on guns.

I've owned my LCR 5days and haven't taken it apart to see what makes it tick.
That's a record for me. LOL

Some people see the cup as half empty. Some people see the cup as half full. I see the cup as too large. - George Carlin

forgetitohio
April 5, 2011, 05:14 PM
OK.

The shop owner put my J up for sale. It's a '83 3" mod. 37. I'd put it over 95%.
Who here is going to send me a money order for $400-500 for it??
I'd buy it back for that and send it to you! LOL

The value of a gun is what somebody's willing to pay for it. ..Tom D. (me)

Phydeaux642
April 5, 2011, 09:31 PM
I passed up a 36 no dash with a 3" barrel for $399 this weekend. I just really don't care for 3" j-frames. That's me, though.

Bentonville
May 15, 2011, 08:21 AM
I love the 3 inch J frame. It's very accurate and easy for me to conceal in a Don Hume snap-on IWB holster. In fact, I used mine to get my CC a few years back. Several of the guys at the range were envious of mine. Mine has only about 85 percent finish yet a guy offered me 350 on the spot. He was the shop owner sponsoring the classes.

Photoman
May 16, 2011, 11:56 AM
A 3" Model 37 that is "too pretty to CC" is worth ~much~ more than $250 but, if you're happy, then it doesn't matter.

tdv
May 16, 2011, 12:03 PM
Forgetitohio...LOL
The LCR is smooth! I would like to hear a thread or comments from S/W folks on Smith's "Bodyguard" .38 Special? A similar gun to the LCR, except for the laser. As a traditionalist, I still have to account for all the bad guys who get waxed by black plastic rifles and polymer side arms. They are getting the job done just fine. So it wasn't too big a step for me to try out my LCR in .357 mag. My particular LCR is exceptionally accurate at defensive ranges, and smooth as silk. My petite Filipino Baby, can't fire my Smith's DA...but can rip off rounds with the LCR, even in .357 mag. That speaks a lot for the modular action design of the LCR. Maybe that is it's greatest niche? Since it is a hammerless DA only configuration, the slick action affords itself well for women and the elderly. As for my own experience with the LCR, I find it a tough revolver. I have put it through the ringer, and have no problems at all. If I compare my LCR to my M640, the Smith is slightly easier to conceal due to a smaller grip. The LCR grip being larger, allows me to shoot better. Considering all factors, they serve the same purpose, but I shoot the LCR best and carry it more. The slick action on my LCR is the deciding factor. The one thing I don't like about the LCR grip, is that soft rubber has a tendency to grab your shirt and print the gun for CCW. So I wear a larger shirt. The grips definately are an advantage when the shooting starts. If I ever have problems with my LCR, I will go back to a M640 or SP-101 to stay.

Bentonville
May 16, 2011, 01:33 PM
I inadvertentely gave the impression my little J frame is a 37. It's a 3 inch bbl. S&W Model 36 blued model. I was responding to the post just before mine about passing up a 3 inch Model 36 at a show. I gave 165 as the action was seized up with gunk and grime. My brother owned it and hated it. I took it to a S&W gunsmith and had it cleaned, tuned, replaced the hand and smoothed out the trigger. It's a great little revolver. I want to try the LCR, however.

pete950
May 16, 2011, 05:30 PM
MAN!!!! been looking for a good deal on a 3inch 37, I would have given you $300 and payed the shipping without batting an eye

Pete

Remllez
May 17, 2011, 07:12 PM
That Smith wasn't doing you any good sitting at home...the LCR will make you happy every time you shoot it....Not all people in our sport keep a running tally on every gun deal they make! Don't worry about a few bucks here and there. I like your attitude,sounds like you shoot because you like to shoot. Let the collectors wring their hands over your deal.

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