Belt clips Anyone ?


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Bill H 40
April 1, 2011, 09:53 AM
Belt clips,
Love them?
Hate them??
Any one use them???

---I'm talking about the kind Kel-Tec sells for their 380's and the PF9.

--looking at the " Clip Draw" http://www.clipdraw.com./faquniversal that is held on with some type of super duper tape. My brain is having a hard time with the "tape" part of the deal…

The real question is would it be a death defying sac religious mortal sin to consider drilling and taping the slide of say an LC9 to accept one of these clips?

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sohcgt2
April 1, 2011, 08:46 PM
I want a holster that covers the trigger

X-Rap
April 1, 2011, 08:51 PM
Love them?
Hate them??

Yup
I like em for certain applications and they are on several of my handguns.

Drail
April 1, 2011, 09:06 PM
My experience with using a clip to attach and hold anything on your belt has shown that while it may be convenient it is a great way to lose things. I have seen so many guys that I work with lose flashlights, radios, keyrings etc. when they had them clipped on their belt and in most cases were not even aware that they had come off. I worked for years in at an airport on the ramp and every time someone lost a radio we would have to search every aircraft they were in or around and sometimes the whole airfiled to find it (guys would lose radios while screaming down a runway on a tractor and we would have to stop operations until it was found). The clip will snag on countertop and desk edges, shopping carts, seat belts, car seats, ladders. striker plates, etc. etc. etc. Dropping your keys or your light is one thing but imagine having your gun clatter to the cement while you're in someplace where people are going to freak out (like in a bank or Post Office). Buy a good belt and holster and leave the clips to the mall ninja kids.:rolleyes: Keep your important stuff attached to your butt securely enough that if you fall it stays on you. When we talking about guns this could save your life.

zxcvbob
April 1, 2011, 09:24 PM
I have one on my Keltec, and it's not really secure enough that I trust it on a belt. It works better for clipping the gun in your pocket. Or maybe on your belt when you're at home.

I should see how it work in the top of a cowboy boot.

dodo bird
April 1, 2011, 09:36 PM
+1 on keeping the trigger covered.

CoastieShep
April 1, 2011, 09:44 PM
Thought they were to clip IWB?
To just clip it on your belt would be pretty retarded.

Remo223
April 1, 2011, 09:47 PM
Those are pocket clips, imo. I like them.

X-Rap
April 2, 2011, 12:15 AM
You are right Coastie, I guess the others didn't get the instructions????

zxcvbob
April 2, 2011, 12:39 AM
I have the package [Kel-tec] that mine came in right here in my hand. It says "belt clip" four times, then once more on the outside barcode label for good measure. Never uses the word "pocket" anywhere. (doesn't mean you have to use it that way)

X-Rap
April 2, 2011, 12:57 AM
The Kel-Tec clips aren't as strong as the ClipDraw IMO and yes the one on my P3AT works in the pocket but the Clip Draws on my Glocks and 1911's are best on the belt IWB. I don't use them while hiking or other activities that could easily dislodge the gun but to run to the store or for when I may have to slip the gun off and on the only better thing is a paddle but that isn't IWB.

chris in va
April 2, 2011, 11:39 AM
Used the factory clip on my Keltec P11 and now the Clipdraw on my Kahr K9. Works well.

My experience with using a clip to attach and hold anything on your belt

And yet, you have no experience with the Clipdraw. Use one for a few years like I have and get back to us.

My brain is having a hard time with the "tape" part of the deal…

The tape doesn't come off unless you pull it a certain way. Only thing I have issue with is it takes up gripping surface real estate, so less purchase when you rack the slide.

Bill H 40
April 2, 2011, 05:43 PM
Thanks to all who have responded.
-- My intentions are to use the clip when carrying IWB at roughly 4:00 position.
-- The LC9 is DA only and has a safety so I'm not overly concerned about covering the trigger using this particular set up.
--Nice to know the tape works, although I still having trouble with the concept.
-- Any one care to voice an opinion on having a gun smith attach ( drill and tap ) the clip directly to the slide?

Bill

Legionnaire
April 2, 2011, 08:38 PM
I have a universal Clipdraw on my SP101. Carries great IWB at 4 o'clock.

7thCavScout
April 2, 2011, 08:54 PM
Another +1 on keeping the trigger covered.

Paladin38-40
April 2, 2011, 10:43 PM
There are a lot of cool looking gun gimmicks for sale. The clip draw attachment is one of them. PLEASE use a holster.

It is difficult for the uninitiated to evaluate the various gadgets and gizmos. One way to get a handle on them is to inquire what LE agencies either issue them or approve them for their officers. If they are not agency approved anywhere there is probably a good reason.

pikid89
April 2, 2011, 10:56 PM
One way to get a handle on them is to inquire what LE agencies either issue them or approve them for their officers. If they are not agency approved anywhere there is probably a good reason.

^I am not a proponent of the clip draw, but im not so sure about the police issuing idea

The New York State Police/NYPD had glock design the NY1 and NY2 trigger springs for guns used in situations that already have pretty bad accuracy rates

Just because PD's dont issue wheel guns anymore doesnt mean that they are not good for self defense

nothing personal, but seems like broken logic to me

DoubleTapDrew
April 2, 2011, 11:39 PM
I don't like them and wouldn't use one. IMO it's one (small) step above mexican carry.

gatorjames85
April 3, 2011, 01:12 AM
+1 on a holster that covers the trigger

Paladin38-40
April 3, 2011, 08:37 AM
^I am not a proponent of the clip draw, but im not so sure about the police issuing idea

The New York State Police/NYPD had glock design the NY1 and NY2 trigger springs for guns used in situations that already have pretty bad accuracy rates

Just because PD's dont issue wheel guns anymore doesnt mean that they are not good for self defense

nothing personal, but seems like broken logic to me
NYPD is one agency. No single agency has a monopoly on knowledge. I did not suggest using or not using anything based on a single agency's policy.

However, if virtually no agency in the country approves a "wonder gadget", which is what I said, there is a good reason.

BTW revolvers are still widely approved and carried for off duty.

sohcgt2
April 3, 2011, 01:15 PM
I don't like them and wouldn't use one. IMO it's one (small) step above mexican carry.

I think its more like mexican carry with less fear of your gun slipping through and ending up on the floor.

Drail
April 3, 2011, 04:25 PM
Or falling down in your sweatpants as you grab for it. Gunbelts and holsters were not invented to be a fashion statement. After you pick your gun up off of the concrete you will understand this.

X-Rap
April 3, 2011, 04:36 PM
You cookie cutter pistoleros crack me up. Many of us don't dress appropriate for a Duty Belt 24/7.
I have good heavy leather, Kydex, fanny packs, IWB, OWB, neck, pocket, and clip options available. Better to have some choices than leave it at home IMO.
Use some of the options I have and I doubt you will have one fall out of your sweats.:rolleyes:

Mp7
April 3, 2011, 04:57 PM
with a strong clip and a DAO gun.... i reckon it´s okay.

if it ever slips, you´ll be made. But as long as you dont try to catch it
no one should get hurt ...

After you pick your gun up off of the concrete you will understand this.

;) not funny. Been there.

gordy
April 3, 2011, 08:04 PM
I have one for my j frame.
I liked it for a while. It seemed to ride up on me if I was walking around.
As I don't stand still for very long, I took it off.
I use a JBP iwb. It works great and it don't ride up on me.

blueridgerunner
April 4, 2011, 09:50 AM
Had one for awhile but decided not to use it as I don't care for the feel of the gun against me w/o being in a holster.

RimfireChris
April 5, 2011, 03:46 PM
Not a clip grip but I carried a small .38 with the Baramie (sic) Hip-Grip. It was a loaner, the gun already had it on there, so I tried it out. Worked ok, not the most secure, but ok for day to day stuff. I kinda a little cushion between me and my weapon though. Still, if it works for you...

KennyFSU
April 5, 2011, 04:39 PM
I have a Kel-Tec PF9 with belt clip and have CC it for 3 years now without incident. At first, not having anything covering the trigger was indeed a concern of mine but luckily the gun has a 7-8 lb trigger pull and that seems to be enough to prevent accidental/negligent discharges.

I have an extremely thin frame and no manner of holster looked right on me as they stuck out like a sore thumb. I am from FL where it is summer all year long so jackets were not a viable option. The belt clip has been a God-send to me and I agree it is not for everyone. Flame me if you must but as noted earlier, 3 years hassle-free.

Just One Shot
April 5, 2011, 04:54 PM
Don't trust them. Seems to me that any carry that leaves the trigger exposed is just asking for trouble. I have a feeling that Plaxico Burress would agree on that point.

thunder173
April 5, 2011, 05:02 PM
I have both the Keltec P-11 and P3AT with belt clips. Have used both for years with and without holsters,..all without issue. Never dropped a gun with them,..and never shot myself or anybody else in the keister, I generally carry them with the clips at 4 o'clock IWB,.....have the P3AT there as I type this in fact. Each to their own. But,..if you have never tried it,..please don't knock those that do. But,...flame away if you must,.... and if it makes ya feel better.

KennyFSU
April 5, 2011, 10:06 PM
Plaxico Burress? Well, it's called a BELT clip, not a sweatpants clip (which was what he was wearing at the time). I can't even hang a flashlight from my sweatpants waist band without it sagging down, hence, I wouldn't dare to CC a gun in them. He shot himself for being an idiot, not because he had a belt clip on.

texas bulldog
April 6, 2011, 03:42 AM
I have the universal revolver model attached to my SP101 with it's 8 million pound trigger. I like it (the clipdraw, not the trigger). I've also used one on an LCP. It worked fine, but I eventually removed that one, as the trigger is more like 1 million pounds.

By the way...the clipdraw generally positions the trigger directly behind your gun belt. It's not much more likely that something will get in the trigger guard between your skin and gun belt than something getting jammed into your holster. Having worn one extensively, I think the concern is overblown.

Oh...and from my experience with the LCP, I can say that the tape is absolutely not a problem. You are way better off using that and not drilling/tapping the side of your slide.

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