The Judge now The Circuit Judge


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WALKERs210
April 1, 2011, 04:59 PM
Since the first time I saw "The Judge" I've done my best to justify buying one. Today I got to see the "Circuit Judge", now the internal battle is really going into overtime. Even mentioned to the wife that she would really like to have one, or maybe two of them. Yea I have no scruples when it comes to sweet talking the wife to get what I want. Never have been able to really tell it the Judge should be in the pistol or shotgun category now its ever harder

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NOLAEMT
April 1, 2011, 05:35 PM
If you just want it as a curio, or for fun that is great, but please don't get one thinking that it will be a "do it all" weapon. it is much more of a "do nothing" weapon.

It is a poor 410 shotgun, with terrible patterns, and it is a very inaccurate 45 colt rifle, unable to take any of the modern 45 colt loadings.

WALKERs210
April 1, 2011, 07:14 PM
NOLAEMT, I have no intention of depending on this for anything other than the occasional paper plate or soda can that might jump out in front of me. It was just one of those things that grabs your attention. When the rubber hits the road I still beleive 100% in my 1911.

Manco
April 1, 2011, 07:39 PM
Never have been able to really tell it the Judge should be in the pistol or shotgun category now its ever harder

Well, for one thing other pistols have rifling, but they're not rifles, they're still pistols. Other pistols can also spray around shot if it's loaded in the proper caliber (e.g. CCI pistol-caliber shotshells), but they're not shotguns, they're still pistols. Therefore, at least according to precedence the Judge is a pistol (or handgun for those who define "pistol" as something other than a revolver).

The Circuit Judge is something different and can be called anything you want, since there are shotguns that have rifling but are still called shotguns. It's definitely not a pistol or handgun, though.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
April 1, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'll take my handload 45 Colt shotshells. 1/2 oz no. 9's at 1200 fps in 4" barrel

nonseven
April 2, 2011, 11:25 AM
I saw a review of the circuit judge at Gunblast.com and he was surprised that his copy would shoot 1" groups all day with .45 colt at 25 yards.

There is also supposed to be a smoothbore version of the 410 which should be interesting.

If you really want a pistol that can function as a shotgun, consider the BFR 45/410 with the 7 1/2 barrel with the screw-in choke. A huge beast but the 410 patterns are impressive.

LouCap
April 2, 2011, 04:25 PM
If you just want it as a curio, or for fun that is great, but please don't get one thinking that it will be a "do it all" weapon. it is much more of a "do nothing" weapon.

It is a poor 410 shotgun, with terrible patterns, and it is a very inaccurate 45 colt rifle, unable to take any of the modern 45 colt loadings.

I own one (a poly PD) and its not THAT bad at all. Check out this video to see a variety of ammo being tested for real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRlry5KH6I0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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bayhawk2
April 2, 2011, 05:34 PM
A curio? Only if you want it to be.I thought the same with my Judge,until
Federal came to the party.The "specially made for the Judge" Federal
.410 handgun 000 Buck made Judge owners rejoice.Now I tell the
ones that don't own a Judge not to give a bad review unless you've
tried it with this round.I would think that the Circuit Judge would
even be better with this round since it has the longer barrel.

rcmodel
April 2, 2011, 05:41 PM
The new S&W Governor holds six rounds, and takes .45/.410, and .45 ACP in moon-clips.

Now that would be sweet for fast reloads!!

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_768152_-1_757992_757992_image

rc

NOLAEMT
April 3, 2011, 12:36 AM
I'm not trying to say that it wouldn't work for a self defense weapon. I'm sure someone hit with buckshot, or a 45 colt slug will be effectively dissuaded. I am simply saying that I believe there are much better options available.

PcolaDawg
April 3, 2011, 01:01 AM
The new S&W Governor holds six rounds, and takes .45/.410, and .45 ACP in moon-clips.

Now that would be sweet for fast reloads!!

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_768152_-1_757992_757992_image

rc
Oh I truly wish you hadn't shown me that link. I was just thinking the other night how I wished Smith & Wesson made a gun like the Taurus Judge. Believe it or not, I was NOT aware of 'The Governor'.

Now ..... I want one. :uhoh:

JR47
April 3, 2011, 04:09 PM
I am simply saying that I believe there are much better options available.

There are always better options. Especially when it has to do with opinions. It's fashionable for the Internet Experts to bash the Judge. However, there are apparently a lot of people who just don't listen to their vaunted advice, judging from the sales.

The Governor, using Moon-Clips, would be a fast re-load, but only in .45 ACP. It also uses only 2 1/2" .410 shells. Why the .45 ACP is included strikes me more as marketing than ability. However, some people obviously like the triple-play.

Remember, a hand-gun can always be considered inferior to a long-gun. They are more likely the "better options".;)

bayhawk2
April 3, 2011, 05:45 PM
JR47-Yes and most bash guns they never had or never shot
or never even held in their key pad typing fingers.
I've shot approx. 800 rounds through my Judge.With
no problems.I had a guy come in and tell me how big a mistake
I made on buying it.He told me it was a P.O. junk.
I asked if he had ever owned or shot one.He said he'd
never own one or shoot one,because they are junk.
Amazing.Simply amazing,but they are all in here and
other forums giving reviews on something that they know
absolutely nothing about.As you call them "internet experts".
I call them internet "know it alls".If you don't think they know
it all,just ask them.;)

BLB68
April 3, 2011, 06:17 PM
I'm going to hold off until they make on in 12 ga. They can call it the Supreme Court Justice. :D

rcmodel
April 3, 2011, 06:21 PM
I thought the 12 ga version would be the Grand Poo-Bah!

rc

jrb_pro
April 3, 2011, 09:13 PM
I got a chance to shoot my uncle's Judge Snubbie, and I wasn't expecting a lot. Surprisingly, it was fun to shoot! Only shot various 410 shells through it, but I thought it was nice. Loud thing though.

XxWINxX94
April 4, 2011, 08:15 PM
"regular" Judge owner here. No problems at all for me! Cool gun if you can get a good deal on one.

yhtomit
April 5, 2011, 06:24 PM
rcmodel -- oy! That Governor has now vaulted places ahead on my Fantasy Arsenal team, by being able to take .45ACP. Please read my sarcasm tags when I say "Thanks. Thanks a lot." ;)

Now I'll have to google for the price.

timothy

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