Deer Creek Vest Pocket Derringer


April 3, 2011, 10:37 PM
here's something rather interesting. i like this little gun. it's a 31 caliber single shot brass derringer. i think even the small 31 caliber is a bit large for a derringer, however i think if i were to get one and install a barrel liner and leave the nipple in i could fire .22 cap and ball with it. although i could load it with snake shot uncapped and keep it in my tackle box with a cap or two in a tiny plastic bag. and at $105 it is well within my price range. that is pretty darn affordable for a gun.

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April 4, 2011, 03:54 AM
I have one of those, and all I can say is you get what you pay for. The thing needed to be completely reworked. Trigger was way too tight, like 15#, which sucks on the little spur trigger. It wouldn't swing open/closed right either to cap. Another thing is that there's no half-cock safety. I wouldn't leave it kicking around loose in a tackle box capped, so you got the right idea about keeping the caps in a bag. If you don't mind doing a little work to it though, it can be a neat piece.

April 4, 2011, 06:56 AM
there's no half-cock safety
That's true of all bp guns, whether they have a half cock position or not.

April 4, 2011, 09:58 AM
an outfit called gunsnstuff carries a conversion unit for that to .22 lr.

April 4, 2011, 02:33 PM
"i think even the small 31 caliber is a bit large for a derringer,...."

And yet the original cartridge vest pocket Colt that is modeled after was a .41 RF.

Of course there were .22 RF models made as reproductions.

If I was going to want to load it with shot for snakes and such I would certainly leave it .31 for more of everything.


April 4, 2011, 02:52 PM
what if you modified the hammer to set off a rimfire cartridge, removed the nipple, installed a .22 caliber barrel liner, then chambered it in .22 short. that might be a fun little plinker! or you could chamber it in .22 long rifle and fire .22 colibris in your garage or basement. that might be fun.

April 4, 2011, 02:55 PM
i wonder if you could add a longer barrel to it, like maybe 4 inches or so, that would probably drastically improve the accuracy.

April 4, 2011, 08:53 PM
Here's 2 inexpensive tackle box DA revolvers in .22 short which are fairly accurate at combat range. Primer strikes in single action are about 100% reliable as opposed to when firing double action though, especially for the CDM on top.

Bill from NJ
April 4, 2011, 09:14 PM
["an outfit called gunsnstuff carries a conversion unit for that to .22 lr."

I believe this place is currently out of business.

I would love to find a conversion unit if one was available.

Actually I was just spending an hour or so trying to locate this conversion sleeve.

April 4, 2011, 11:08 PM
Me too. Darn, I should have bought it two years ago.Still, as busyhands pointed out, it wouldn't be that hard to do.

April 4, 2011, 11:35 PM
it seems like something that would take about an hour or so not including the time it takes for the two part epoxy to bond the liner in the barrel. it should be pretty easy.

April 5, 2011, 05:15 AM
I LOVE that little thing !!! I'm picking up TWO (2) of them !!!

And I don't mind re-working it a bit, thats part of the bonding I do with all my "pets", it gives us private time to get acquainted with each other.

When I get them, and I will be ordering them from Dixie once I am done here. I will take it all apart, brush, polish, mildly grind anything that needs it, and then I think I will tripple 24Kt Gold Plate all the brass, and Tripple Nickel Plate all the steel. Once all of that is buffed and polished, and all new and shiney, I will re-finish the grips in a pure off-white type of laquer finish, overcoat that with a layer of pearl gloss, and seal that with a clear sealant...

That will get them, and me, all "Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy"...

LOL !!!

My only concern is... where the heck am I gunna find a round ball mold at about a .295, or therabouts, diameter so it will patch fit down the barrel???... Oh, ya... Buck Shot, they come in a size that will work just fine !!!


ElvinWarrior... aka... David, "EW"


Here is another fun toy from Dixie, currently on-sale for $199.00. It's a reproduction of the 1863 Remington .310 Caliber 5-Shot Pocket Pistol, I have TWO (2) of these in my collection, all plated and buffed out, along with a custom built up pistol chest for the pair I re-manufactured from a stock, standard jewelry chest I picked up and re-worked.

Cased Pair, after plating.

April 5, 2011, 11:42 AM

Those remind me of the little 4mm RF I played with in Germany. We kept a piece of coathanger wire handy as occassionally a ball or five would get stuck in the barrel. We used a Sears catalog for a back stop. Also when I was a kid in the early 1960's a freinds dad kept a little .22 Short RG like those in his glove box. It had serious timing issues in DA mode.


Really like those Remingtons, great work!


April 5, 2011, 12:55 PM
great work on the Remingtons!! i have been thinking about getting one for a while now, they just seem like cool guns!

April 5, 2011, 10:10 PM

Well, I got two (2) of them, and I didn't buy them at the same time, I went back as a satisfied customer for a second purchase, so that should give you an idea of my satisfaction level with the pistols.

You do have to be aware that they are one of the "low end" models offered by F. LLI. Pietta, and they are NORTORIOUS for needing little adjustments here and there to bring them up to snuff. Both of mine were fitted with nipples that seated down too deeply into the cylinders and needed to be adjusted with hand adapted spacers. One of them had a minor adjustment problem with the hammer not latching properly in half cock, which was readily and easily solved with very minor fine jewelry file filing. And Pietta tends to be a bit sloppy, on their "low end" products when it comes to knicks and scratches and the stampings being a bit sloppy. All of that was fixed with fine jewelry file hand filing and buffing/polishing.

Nothing major at all, all very minor things, but some people find this sort of thing irratating and annoying, I just consider it part of the fun of BP, getting to know my "pets" intimately.

I know you're quite the builder yourself, I have read some of your posts and watched some of your vids on YouTube, so, these kinds of things are not a worry to someone like you.

Have Fun With It !!!


ElvinWarrior... aka... David, "EW"


Sometime during the next month or so, I will complete my current re-finishing project of re-finishing my newest addition to my collection, a Tennessee, .50 Caliber, short full stock double trigger carbine rifle. I am going EVERYTHING in Copper, then Nickel, then a tripple plating of Chrome, EVERYTHING, all hardware, inclucing bolts, screws, wedge plates, wedges, EVERYTHING will be plated this way except for the double triggers, they will be plated in tripple plated 24Kt Gold, instead of the Chrome. In addition to that, I am going to cover, the entire stock, the full length of it, in thin, soft, white patent leather, with the seam of the leather along the bottom edge of the carbine. The seam will be held tightly together with a long row of 6" white leather fringe, all along the bottom edge. Next month, I will purchase an 18" Brass tube old style 4x scope with mounting brackets, plate that in tripple Chrome, and mount it on the Carbine as well. When completed, it will be all bright and shiney lusterous Chrome and white patent leather with white leather fringe, it should be nothing less than stunning when done !!! When I am all done, I will have a little home "Knighting/Christening" ceremony, and give the rifle a name, I am planning on dubbing it, "The Chief Joeseph"... I will also, photo-doucment the whole process, every step of the way, and publish here, a full photo-journal of transforming my Tennessee Carbine from a generic stock Carbine, into "The Chief Joeseph"...

I like to do silly things like name my creations, I often refer to my Pocket Pistol Pair as "My Twins", as you know, as a builder, you spend hours and hours finishing off projects like this, and you put so much of yourself into them, they become almost like your children to a degree. Somehow, to me, naming them just seems appropriate.

You, being a builder yourself, will probably enjoy that article... I may, follow your footsteps, and along with a still photo series, record a few video clips all along the way, of the process, finishing up with me, firing the Carbine out at a range, and showing the target grouping after.... To be posted on YouTube, with the link in the article here.

Have Fun With It !!!


April 5, 2011, 10:33 PM
does Pedersoli make 1863 pocket remmys? i own a pedersoli firearm and the craftsmanship is very nice! i think that if a gun is slightly unfinished it is a good thing. you get to polish it and make it your own, make it personal. and that is something to be proud of. a firearm is a very personal item. you need to have one that you feel comfortable and confident with and most of all one that you like. if a gun is close to what you want you can personalize it to be something you truly enjoy and cherish.

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