Flintlock Pirate pistol


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Brian Williams
April 7, 2011, 08:27 AM
My son was looking for a functioning flintlock that would be close to what a "typical" pirate would have carried.

Any kits out there that would be good?

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ElvinWarrior
April 7, 2011, 10:02 AM
Brian,

What do you mean, exactly, by "functioning". Prop/Stage/"Re-inactment" types of guns abound that have "working" hammers, frizzens, and even spark and can set off flash powder, but are not designed to fire a projectile. There are TONS and TONS of those out there, and they are WAY CHEAP, like 30 bux or so for a really fancy pirate type pistol, done very well... But it won't fire a ball.

DGW, Dixie, has alot of kits in general, a few, would qualify as "pirate" type ones, the big bore ones are going to be between, 200-300 for a kit, and the smaller, more unusual curio types at between 100 and 200... here are a few pics from their catalogs...

This one is a bit pricey, at 398.00 for the kit, but it's a high end Pedersoli, so it's well made. It's a 58 Cal Harper's Ferry Pistol Kit.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/FH0411.jpg

This one, also a Pedersoli, is a "Queen Anne", 50 Cal, at around 315.00.


http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/PerdesoliFH0421QueenAnnFlintlockPistol.jpg

I don;t have any of the pics saved off to my computer and loaded up to photobucket yet, but there is an outfitter out there, called, The "Middlesex Village Trading Company", who carries NOTHING except 17th century types of flints, fully assembled, made in India, BUT, the owner painstakingly goes through every single gun, and fine tunes the hammers, the frizzen geometry, tunes the flash hole, the whole 9 yards, his STANDARD price for a fully operational, very, very well done reproduction, assembled, is $349.00, a couple come in at $299.00, with one or two in the bargain basement at on or about $199.00... Give them a gander, they are WELL WORTH the look I garauntee you. They even carry, the ONLY available currently made flintlock double barrel side by side shotgun, at on or about $525.00 !!! and it's a NICE ONE, fully nickel plated, Breech to Muzzle !!! ALL OF IT is NICKEL, every single inch !!!

The following three pics are percussion kits, from Dixie, but they could have been very easily carried by pirates, and they are very interesting guns, and I am sure, fun builds, they all come in at between $100.00 to $170.00.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/ClassicArms44CalibrePistolDaggerKit.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/ClassicArms44CalibreDuckfootPistolKit.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/ClassicArms36Calibre4ShotPepperboxPistolKit.jpg

Those guns I beleive are made by Connecticutt arms, and you may want to visit their site as well, I am sure they have others too.

The following composite pic is just and example of the kinds of Prop/Stage/Re-inactment pistols out there, all for between $30.00 to $50.00, except for the blunderbuss, which I think, comes in at around $80.00.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x330/ElvinWarrior/FlintSamplePics.jpg

In addition to the three outfits mentioned, CVA and Traditions, both carry some kits, so check those guys out too !!!

I hope this helps !!!

Sincerely,

ElvinWarrior... aka... David, "EW"

arcticap
April 7, 2011, 11:50 AM
Traditions offers a Kentucky flint pistol kit. The main difference between that and their "Pirate flint pistol" is that the finish is blue instead of bright polished steel, the shape of the grip and a brass grip cap.

The Traditions Kentucky .50 flint pistol kit:

http://www.possibleshop.com/pistol-kit.html

The completed Traditions .50 Pirate pistol for comparison:

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product_info.php?products_id=140

Pedersoli also makes a Kentucky flint pistol kit in both .50 & .54:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_162_195&products_id=5928&osCsid=2bff733ef5aea120bccbd18bdd54723c

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_162_195&products_id=3528&osCsid=2bff733ef5aea120bccbd18bdd54723c

Texas Moon
April 7, 2011, 12:17 PM
I want one too. :evil:
About the closest thing I've found to a decent looking circa 1700 pistol is at Middlesex Village Traders.
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/BritishPistols.shtml
The Heavy Dragoon looks about right.
The double barrel looks fantastic.
Trouble is these are Indian made guns and I've read many poor reviews of them in actual use. Your mileage may vary.
For stage prop use there are many non-firing models that are a lot cheaper.

Cosmoline
April 7, 2011, 12:25 PM
I'd trust Middlesex or Loyalist. They keep pretty good tabs on their suppliers and I know the owner of Middlesex tests his products. I would not pack them with a max load of buck and ball, but for shooting powder only or mild loads with roundball the should be fine. The usual rules apply of course, like cleaning them.

Mr_Pale_Horse
April 7, 2011, 01:04 PM
+1 for Middlesex for historical interest, LARPing

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