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GunsBeerFreedom
April 9, 2011, 12:16 AM
If so, this is my dream revolver. A top break 45LC that fires from the 6 o'clock as opposed to the 12 o'clock position, and beautiful to boot. The only problem is, as far as I know it only exists in fantasy, as it's found in the anime series Trigun. So I come to you, the ultimate wisdom of the online gun community. Does it actually exist?
http://crimsonsguns.tripod.com/vashstudio.jpg

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nalioth
April 9, 2011, 12:29 AM
It'd help if you wouldn't hotlink images w/o permission (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=hotlinking+is+bad).

This is what we're seeing:
http://www.novarata.net/images/t/tripod-do-not-hotlink.jpg

( you should thank your lucky stars the image they supply isn't a lesson in hotlinking in itself (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=hotlinking+is+bad) )

You're welcome to use this picture host (http://picpaste.novarata.net).

GunsBeerFreedom
April 9, 2011, 12:54 AM
Thanks. The other boards I post on allow regular BB IMG codes. Didn't know you couldn't do that here. Or perhaps it's the website I chose. Either way, lets try this:
http://picpaste.novarata.net/pics/7a4f87251ae66946009e409b017fd0cd.jpg (http://picpaste.novarata.net/#7a4f87251ae66946009e409b017fd0cd.jpg)

nalioth
April 9, 2011, 12:59 AM
That would be neat to find a revolver like that. I imagine the bottom firing position would partially (if not totally) negate the weakness that the top-break design has.

The other boards I post on allow regular BB IMG codes. Didn't know you couldn't do that here. Or perhaps it's the website I chose.We're quite fine with bbcodes.

It's Tripod that doesn't like you hotlinking (https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=hotlinking+is+bad) to their content.

GunsBeerFreedom
April 9, 2011, 01:13 AM
Did not know that. Thanks for the knowledge.

Shadow 7D
April 9, 2011, 01:28 AM
As far as i know, the Rhino is neither a break top nor in 45 Colt

DammitBoy
April 9, 2011, 01:37 AM
http://chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/products/340-073mid_0.jpg

The Rhino is the only 6 oclock firing revolver out there that I know of - it's a .357 and does not open like a break top.

Cosmoline
April 9, 2011, 01:53 AM
The top break design is typically weaker than a solid frame and limited to low pressure rounds. But then again nobody to my knowledge has done much with it since WWI.

That particular one would have a very heavy barrel as well, and be pretty clunky.

Kendal Black
April 9, 2011, 02:00 PM
The Mateba Autorevolver also fires from the six o'clock chamber. It isn't a break top either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver . It's an open top, sort of, Sam Colt style, and cocks itself, sort of like a Webley-Fosbery.

I think the same guy who designed it designed the Rhino.

A Mateba in .44 Magnum or .454 Casull may be the closest thing ever made to your dream gun. I think they quit making Matebas, due to lack of widespread interest, but I'm not sure--there were never many made.

SaxonPig
April 9, 2011, 04:53 PM
I generally don't pay much attention to fantasy/animation/movie guns.

Actually, I don't pay ANY attention to them.

Shadow 7D
April 9, 2011, 10:29 PM
HEHE, I was thinking somebody did something with a 454 Mateba...
but that looks like a mating of a taurus and a rhino, with maybe a side of ruger, yuck....

Remo223
April 9, 2011, 10:43 PM
My dream revolver would be a mateba-like automatic revolver...top break...ten shot cylinder chambered in 30carbine...with a nagant gas seal-like mechanism.

Kendal Black
April 9, 2011, 11:19 PM
My dream revolver would be a mateba-like automatic revolver...top break...ten shot cylinder chambered in 30carbine...with a nagant gas seal-like mechanism.
Like noise, much? Ruger had a Blackhawk in .30 US Carbine, and it had a shout like the last angel. Otherwise, so-so.

Dave T
April 9, 2011, 11:39 PM
And people say Glocks are ugly. (ROTFLMAO)

Dave

Shadow 7D
April 9, 2011, 11:51 PM
that looks like a judge cylinder, wonder if .410 is low enough pressure to be handled by a break top

Barkoff
April 10, 2011, 01:27 AM
Man that is just fugly. I wouldn't know where to shoot it or beat somebody over the head with it. With all the beautiful Colt and S&W revolvers out there, this is really what you dream about?

No offense intended.

Kendal Black
April 10, 2011, 01:41 AM
Every new firearm had its start in someone's imagination. Nothing is ridiculous any more if you have taken apart a Browning Auto-Five. And yet the thing has been knocking the ducks' socks off since 1900.

I think simpler is better, but the fantasy gun illustrated above is not altogether unlike a .455 Webley fitted with a Bomar PPC rib, except for firing bottom first. Before we say what is ridiculous, let us contemplate some real steel guns that are not all that different.

Justin
April 10, 2011, 01:44 AM
Vash's gun from Trigun is an amalgamation of several different designs from different eras.

Probably the closest thing to it is the Mateba Unica 6, though its not a top break, it loads like a normal revolver.

You're not likely to find one though as they're no longer made. The next closest gun would be the Rhino, which is made and imported into the US and should currently be available on the market.

FWIW, revolvers that fire from the bottom chamber do have less felt recoil than traditional guns.

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BCRider
April 11, 2011, 01:40 PM
Our eye for beauty in firearms has been shaped by what we get familiar with. And for many of us this means the classic S&W and Colt shape which themselves were just slight variations on the old cap and ball original Colt revolvers. So "fugly" is purely in the eye of the beholder. If we saw the introduction and acceptance of bottom firing top break wheelguns within a couple of years we'd all think that they looked "right".

It's the same with modern sportbikes. Back in the 80's such shapes would have been considered as ugly and far too extreme. Now folks look at the early generation sport bikes from the 80's and call THEM ugly because they were so big and upright. It's all about our current mental image of any given item. And that mental image is one that can be shaped.

Anyhow back to the topic. I like the idea that a bottom firing gun would put the round coming out down close to the hinge which could be built tough enough to withstand the pounding. The question then becomes is it possible to make a hinge that will stay tight enough over the life of the gun despite the pounding? That's a tough one to answer. Also the hinge will end up being a bit clunky with a bottom firing gun since the hinge has to be located below the barrel and still have enough "meat" around it to not form a weak spot. So such a gun may well end up too clunky to be light and concealable.

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