Ruger 1911 Photo leaked ad for shooting times


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TennJed
April 11, 2011, 01:42 AM
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TennJed
April 11, 2011, 01:45 AM
Seems to be an ad for Shooting Times magazine in Guns and Ammo special issue Combat Arms located on pg 119

shotgunjoel
April 11, 2011, 01:53 AM
Great, Ruger already jumped on the AR-15 bandwagon, stole Keltec’s design for the P3AT/LCP, stole Glock’s trigger for the SR9, and now they are jumping on the 1911 bandwagon. What originality.

monkyboy1975
April 11, 2011, 01:55 AM
I think I would rather go with the new Ithaca.

LawScholar
April 11, 2011, 02:03 AM
Great, Ruger already jumped on the AR-15 bandwagon, stole Keltec’s design for the P3AT LCP, stole Glock’s trigger for the SR9, and now they are jumping on the 1911 bandwagon. What originality

If I rolled my eyes any harder, they'd fall out.

Pack it up, every 1911 maker except Colt! You're not original enough!

My prediction: it works, it's tough, it's cheap

pikid89
April 11, 2011, 02:05 AM
wooooo....

please please please have no series 80 safety!!!!!!

definitely jumped to the top of the save up for list

wcavasos
April 11, 2011, 02:12 AM
Ruger already jumped on the AR-15 bandwagon, stole Keltec’s design for the P3AT/LCP, stole Glock’s trigger for the SR9, and now they are jumping on the 1911 bandwagon. What originality.
That sucks, I was looking forward to handling a sr9 in the future. Glock triggers are garbage, I would think that ruger would have more sense than that.

wcavasos
April 11, 2011, 02:14 AM
My prediction: it works, it's tough, it's cheap
Haha I am not seeing a problem here

LawScholar
April 11, 2011, 02:15 AM
My thoughts exactly!

pikid89
April 11, 2011, 02:16 AM
I would think that ruger would have more sense than that.

i wouldnt discount the sr9 yet, the M&P and the sr9 have triggers similar to the glock, but at least to me, shooting them each feels quite different...shoot one before you decide

wcavasos
April 11, 2011, 02:37 AM
My thoughts exactly!

Oh I get it. I just didn't catch the sarcasm in your other post.

kayak-man
April 11, 2011, 02:49 AM
As if I didn't have enough problems trying to decide which 1911 to get already... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Actually, when Ruger anounced the LC9, I was kind of disapointed that they weren't making a 1911. I'm wondering how it will compare to something like a Kimber or SA.

Probably won't get one: I already have the MKIII and SR9, and feel like I need to branch out a bit. :D

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson

Kendal Black
April 11, 2011, 02:54 AM
I would have thought the 1911 market saturated by now.

BLB68
April 11, 2011, 03:51 AM
Far from saturated. Our local gun shop can't keep them in stock, and they price gouge like heck.

Jed Carter
April 11, 2011, 04:42 AM
In business, better never than late. Ruger's timing is uncanny, 2012 aniversary edition perhaps. Should work, only had 101 years to get it right, needs to be priced right to get me to jump. May consider it if it doesn't have the "lawyer" roll marks on the nonport side!

Gunsby_Blazen
April 11, 2011, 05:46 AM
there has been so many rumors about a Ruger 1911 over the years and they didnt make any announcements at shotshow, the NRA show, nor on 1911's birthday...

it just does not add up that they woudlnt release it on any of those days and wait till later to do so...

i call BS

earlthegoat2
April 11, 2011, 05:57 AM
wooooo....

please please please have no series 80 safety!!!!!!


Yeah right, this is Ruger we are talking about. There is more room on the side of a 1911s slide than all their other guns combined. This is the perfect media Ruger needs to come out with their new and improved and BIGGER warning label.

i call BS

This is my thought too. However, maybe Ruger is just bowing to customer demand. The still make nice guns but they are a little to caught up in politics.

harmon rabb
April 11, 2011, 06:57 AM
i wouldnt discount the sr9 yet, the M&P and the sr9 have triggers similar to the glock, but at least to me, shooting them each feels quite different...shoot one before you decide

the M&P trigger is nothing like a glock's. the M&P is single action, like a XD, and not pre-set double action, like the glock (and sr9).

Cemo
April 11, 2011, 08:18 AM
Yeah Ruger! American made products! Who cares whose gun they copied as long as they didn't violate patent laws. Hopefully they will not be overpriced like their AR's.

wow6599
April 11, 2011, 08:24 AM
Would it have the warning billboard on the slide? Don't they all...........

Z-Michigan
April 11, 2011, 09:04 AM
Great news everyone! At last we have another choice in 1911 handguns!!!

Sgt.Murtaugh
April 11, 2011, 10:28 AM
Is your user name a nod to the Grateful Dead? If so, that's awesome to see a fellow Dead head on a gun message board.

As for the Ruger 1911, I have seen and read that article in the new shooting times - it will not be a typical Ruger innovation project. They are sticking to alot of original 1911 concepts.

You can bet on it being a damn reliable pistol!

InkEd
April 11, 2011, 11:16 AM
Interesting. I just bought a SA Mil-Spec Stainless last October.

A day late and a dollar short for me. I'm sure it will be a good gun though. I predict the price point will make it competive with the Taurus 1911. We'll see.

Sgt.Murtaugh
April 11, 2011, 11:24 AM
Price will be $800 I think the article said. MSRP anyway

TennJed
April 11, 2011, 11:57 AM
Sgt.Murtaugh. posted
Is your user name a nod to the Grateful Dead? If so, that's awesome to see a fellow Dead head on a gun message board.


Yes it is!...live about 2 miles from the Tennessee State line and have been a head since I was 14.

InkEd
April 11, 2011, 12:00 PM
I haven't received that issue in the mail yet. I will be looking forward to reading it.

SURPRISED THEY HAVE NOT MADE A FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT!

I wonder when they will actually be available on the shelves?

I don't blame them for NOT presenting it at SHOT show. It would have gotten lost in the sea of 1911s this year. By doing it now, it will get more INDIVIDUAL coverage rather than being lumped in with ones from everyone else. I can understand their logic. I think they should have made a formal announcement on the 100yr anniversary date or something BUT it's still within the 100yr anniversary year. I'm guesing it's going to be on alot of Christmas wishlists for people that wanted to wait for their first 1911.

Sgt.Murtaugh
April 11, 2011, 12:09 PM
haha Nice!

I bet you probably frequent Phantasytour, too....

we should start a "Dead Heads for the 2nd Amendment" organization and see if we can get more than 10 people to join...

Dunedain
April 11, 2011, 02:06 PM
As long as it is 100% made in The U.S., with good quality control standards applied, it should be interesting. :)

1KPerDay
April 11, 2011, 03:43 PM
Looks good to me. I'm in the market if the price is right.

pikid89
April 11, 2011, 03:59 PM
@harmon rabb

he M&P trigger is nothing like a glock's. the M&P is single action, like a XD, and not pre-set double action, like the glock (and sr9).

wrong... the M&P is partially cocked (98%), almost SA, but not quite, thus described by S&W as "striker fired (double action only)" ...look on the S&W website
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766344_-1_757954_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

chrt396
April 11, 2011, 04:15 PM
Would it have the warning billboard on the slide? Don't they all...........
That warning is what prevented me from getting the SR9!! Plus the pop-up ramp!! Cheesey and cheap looking!

harmon rabb
April 11, 2011, 04:17 PM
wrong... the M&P is partially cocked (98%), almost SA, but not quite, thus described by S&W as "striker fired (double action only)" ...look on the S&W website
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

they lie. iirc, under their definition, ANY single action trigger would be considered double action.

NMGonzo
April 11, 2011, 04:52 PM
Fine.

Ruger did not make a .44 special from a sp101 frame but did another 1911.

Fine.

Keep it up Ruger ... keep it up.

harmon rabb
April 11, 2011, 05:07 PM
how many rounds would a .44spl sp101 hold? 4? lol.

Husker_Fan
April 11, 2011, 06:29 PM
Wait, that means I must have missed the Kel Tec 1911. ;)

Lateck
April 11, 2011, 06:39 PM
As been said: If the price is right!

I'll be saving up for one, I don't own a 1911 yet.

Lateck,

DammitBoy
April 11, 2011, 07:30 PM
I don't see the big deal - unless they offered a 10mm option...

yhtomit
April 11, 2011, 07:35 PM
Hmm. Since it's a Ruger, does this mean it will by default be fine with some .45 Super? :)

timothy

bigfatdave
April 11, 2011, 07:45 PM
Will there be a CCO version?

huduguru
April 11, 2011, 08:34 PM
hoax...

gordy
April 11, 2011, 08:34 PM
I would want to see if it goes off when you drop it before I buy it.
There will be at least one recall before long, Hell its a ruger, it will go off before it hits the ground.:neener:

blackspyder
April 11, 2011, 08:51 PM
It'll have to be priced around the Taurus1911 and Remington R-1 price point before I even roll it over to look at the warning billboard they put on the otherside.

NMGonzo
April 11, 2011, 10:13 PM
Well ... it is going to be 9 pounds and thicker than most.

JDGray
April 12, 2011, 05:34 AM
If the internet dribble I read was true, I thought Ruger already made frames for Caspian. If true, good for Ruger for putting their logo on it!

HM2PAC
April 12, 2011, 06:06 AM
Thought this was amusing......

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1165105

mljdeckard
April 12, 2011, 06:17 AM
Here's the thing;

This could be the perfect bump for Ruger. This is a way around the problems their other guns have had, like creepy triggers. They don't need to innovate, they don't need to outperform, they just have to not screw it up. They could move in and set the standard for people who have wanted a 1911 but had been holding out for a better price tag. But yes, to compete with the other entry-priced competitors, they need to ditch the roll mark. That could be a tie-breaker for a lot of people who will buy a Taurus instead.

Truth is, I'm not sure why they didn't do this a long time ago.

And yes I savor the irony that it is just one more manufacturer BESIDES Browning that is making them now.

RSVP2RIP
April 12, 2011, 06:14 PM
Funny, my RSM 375 does not have a saftey warning on the gun at all, and I believe it was of very recent manufature. Maybe if you pay enough they figure you're smart enough? I never understood the value of Ruger's (or any manufaturer) saftey warnings anyways. What if you don't read? Why aren't the saftey rollmarks also in Braille? I smell Miranda v. Ruger.

bigfatdave
April 12, 2011, 09:13 PM
I heard they were going to replace checkering and slide serrations with stamped-in safety warnings and references to the owner's manual.

DammitBoy
April 12, 2011, 10:02 PM
I smell a lot of ruger hate.

earlthegoat2
April 12, 2011, 10:13 PM
I smell a lot of ruger hate.

Even though this was my initial impression as well, there has been quite a bit of speculation about Ruger making a 1911 and none of it has come from Ruger. There are many Ruger lovers out there who would love for their favorite gun company to come out with a 1911. I kind of find it in bad taste for them to have waited this long. I also like Ruger and own several of their products but I will continue to rag them about their billboard and incorporation of every safety device known to man.

Ruger does not make niche products. That is why they have not come out with a 44 special compact revolver. They only make products that will sell A LOT. The 9mm Sp 101 and Speed Sixes got canned for a reason. 9mm revolvers do not sell in high enough quantities. S&W learned their lesson too. Just because the vocal minority likes to hear the sounds of their own voices does not mean it will be a moneymaker. They are still just the minority.

As to the 1911, it is fun to do a little Ruger ribbing pertaining to this because it has been such a long time coming. They really are fools unless they have been making more money off of the Caspian frames (which I have never been able to verify more than a rumor they even make them). People will buy a 1911 from Ruger just because it says Ruger on it. This says a lot for the company and even more for the consumer. (not a good thing)

HisSoldier
April 12, 2011, 11:58 PM
I read in another forum that it has a loaded chamber indicator and a magazine safety.

The poster who said it's all a hoax got me hoping. I'd like any manufacturer who puts a mag safety in a 1911 to fail, go bankrupt, and their name become infamous.

Maybe it's just a hoax. Seriously, the thought of a magazine safety in a 1911 makes me feel ill.

Auto426
April 13, 2011, 12:16 AM
I read in another forum that it has a loaded chamber indicator and a magazine safety.

That's a lot of speculation from people who haven't seen anything more than the cover of the magazine. I really doubt that Ruger would spend the time and resources to completely redesign the 1911 to include a bunch of extra safety features that have never been in 1911's before, especially when the buyers in the market prefer their 1911's without them. They aren't going to invest a ton of money into a new production setup to produce 1911's and then shoot themselves in the foot by building a gun no one wants.

Ruger is a litigation sensitive company. They got burned one time with a lawsuit, and since then they have done everything in their power to avoid another one. That includes warning on their guns (which they have since started to hide) and extra safeties. Hell, they don't even offer a written warranty, even though they do support their products used or new. I doubt they will release a true Series 70 style 1911, since very companies actually make one now-a-days anyway. They will most likely use either the Series 80 system from Colt, a key lock system like Springfield or Taurus, or the Swartz system like Kimber and S&W.

psyshack
April 13, 2011, 12:34 AM
It's still a 1911 clone like all the others. While a great shooting 1911 is wonderful. Nothing new there. The only 1911 worth owning is on that rattles like ball bearings in a tin can when you shake it. That will be the 1911 that will never let you down. They are combat weapons. All the custom 1911's are safe queens and range pretty boy pistols. Way over priced. Get a sand boulder in the close tolerances,,, they become paper weights real fast.

A worn out GI beat's a dozen custom or general retail fodder 1911's is a bush blind fighting for your life. :)

Gunsby_Blazen
April 13, 2011, 12:40 AM
i was skeptical at first but i know its true now.
guess Ruger is gonna make a 1911........

count me in.


and if they do put a mag safety in it, it will most likely be easily removed...

Dimis
April 13, 2011, 01:24 AM
isnt this a little late for a 100th from ruger? wait isnt this a little late for an april fools joke?

ah who cares

if ruger makes a 1911 thats all fine and good i just hope they do make it in 10mm so some of us working folk can afford a big 10 1911 without hunting down deltas or paying an arm and a leg for STIs or nighthawks

Husker_Fan
April 13, 2011, 09:25 AM
There may be some Ruger hate, but not from me. My jab about Kel Tec was all in good fun. I love my Rugers. They've made themselves an easy target for ribbing with some of their SNAFUs. When they do start selling a 1911, I'll be very interested.

DammitBoy
April 13, 2011, 01:03 PM
I own 7 different Ruger Blackhawks, 3 Ruger SP101's (if you count the two my wife and daughter stole from me), 1 Ruger Super Blackhawk, 1 Ruger Bisley, 1 Ruger MarkII, 1 Ruger MarkIII, 1 Ruger Mini-14 and a Ruger Alaskan in .454 casull.

Sounds like I might be owning another one, based on the 1911, in the near future. :D

HOOfan_1
April 13, 2011, 01:54 PM
I own 7 different Ruger Blackhawks, 3 Ruger SP101's (if you count the two my wife and daughter stole from me), 1 Ruger Super Blackhawk, 1 Ruger Bisley, 1 Ruger MarkII, 1 Ruger MarkIII, 1 Ruger Mini-14 and a Ruger Alaskan in .454 casull.

Sounds like I might be owning another one, based on the 1911, in the near future. :D

There are more Rugers in my house than any other brand.

Security Six (used to have 2) most accurate centerfire hangun for me
Blackhawk
2x Single Sixes .22LR/.22WMR
Standard .22LR auto pistol
10/22

thinking of getting an LC9 or SR9c for a car glove compartment gun.

If their 1911 seems to be a good deal, I will look at it.

FIVETWOSEVEN
April 13, 2011, 02:37 PM
I heard they were going to replace checkering and slide serrations with stamped-in safety warnings and references to the owner's manual.

LOL! That would be quite the grip! :D

SSN Vet
April 13, 2011, 04:15 PM
so Ruger is making a 1911....

yawn

at least we know it won't be a double stack...

since no self respecting law abiding man could ever have a legitimate need for more than 10 rounds.

harmon rabb
April 13, 2011, 04:28 PM
so Ruger is making a 1911....

yawn

at least we know it won't be a double stack...

since no self respecting law abiding man could ever have a legitimate need for more than 10 rounds.

bill ruger is dead, and ruger's stance on that stuff along with him.

FIVETWOSEVEN
April 13, 2011, 05:14 PM
Gosh darn it, Ruger has moved on from that crap that Mr. Ruger believed. Look! They are even tapping into NFA territory! http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html

HOOfan_1
April 13, 2011, 06:46 PM
IMO a double stack 1911 is more sacrilegious than one with a Mag disconnect safety.

Double stack 1911s look odd to me.

DammitBoy
April 14, 2011, 01:12 AM
I love my Para-Ordnance double stacks! :D

---

ps - I forgot to mention my 2 Ruger 10/22's and my Ruger Single-Six!

bds
April 14, 2011, 01:41 AM
Seriously, the thought of a magazine safety in a 1911 makes me feel ill.
Sadly, I live in California. But there are many of us God fearing patriotic working taxpayers who enjoy the same love and passion for the shooting sport.

I applaud companies who continue to support and provide California legal firearms, despite the extra effort/costs involved. Although I have been a long-time fan of Glocks, I admired Smith & Wesson's work on M&P pistols to make them available to us Californians (yes, mag disconnect and all). I bought both M&P40 and M&P45 and enjoy them both very much. I am also in pursuit of one of 200 Dan Wesson PM7 that's made annually just for California (If I can't, then I will gladly buy a S&W 1911).

If Ruger goes out of their way to add mag disconnect and "can see from a block away" loaded chamber indicator on their CA legal 1911, I will gladly buy one to show them my support for SR9/SR40 as Glock evidently won't be modifying Gen4 Glocks for us - which is fine by me as it will give American companies like S&W/Ruger a larger market to work with for their products.

KAS1981
April 14, 2011, 06:24 PM
Interesting. I'll definitely check one out whenever they hit the gun shops.

I really like my Taurus PT1911, but I've had somewhat of a guilty conscience for purchasing a foreign-made 1911. Might sound silly, but there you have it.

If the Ruger is nice I might just have to trade.

oneounceload
April 14, 2011, 06:58 PM
Hmmm, since it will be a casting, it will need to "ROBUST" (Ruger fan-boy words), seriously overweight and sized to meet the normal specs and be recalled within 3 months. I agree with those above....YAWN

cobblestone
April 14, 2011, 07:00 PM
Lets complain about how many choices we have...



or we could just be happy we have so many choices to choose from. Wouldn't b e any fun if everybodys 1911 was a colt or SA.

2wheels
April 14, 2011, 07:03 PM
When is Glock coming out with a 1911 clone?

They're the only ones left right? Who else doesn't make 1911s now?

I knew it was all over when they came out with the "Desert Eagle" 1911...

Not complaining about more choices, but I do find it slightly amusing.

Erfletcher
April 14, 2011, 07:15 PM
I love 1911's, but it is about time someone made a da model that works, and doesn't cost a arm and a leg!

Erfletcher
April 14, 2011, 07:21 PM
We need a left handed innovator!




"from my cold dead hands"!

greyling22
April 14, 2011, 09:39 PM
and I had always admired ruger for not jumping in on the "me too" 1911 bandwagon but I guess if that's what's selling you might as well make a buck. I just just keep hoping for somebody to make a modern single action auto. The market obviously likes them.

DC3-CVN-72
April 15, 2011, 12:54 AM
I am going to by a 1911 pistole this yr. If the RUGER is at or below the TAURUS price point, with SPRINGFIELD ARMORY quality, warenty, & C.S., I will have one in S/S. ;):)

bigfatdave
April 15, 2011, 10:35 AM
I love 1911's, but it is about time someone made a da model that works
1911 != double action

rich642z
April 15, 2011, 02:55 PM
Found out that this is not true. if you go to rugerforum.com in the semi-autos link,you will see a post on glocktalk.com link and someone fooled us with this false rumor of a Ruger in 1911 coming out. Pic is from a Taurus 1911 docted up.

HOOfan_1
April 15, 2011, 03:20 PM
Found out that this is not true. if you go to rugerforum.com in the semi-autos link,you will see a post on glocktalk.com link and someone fooled us with this false rumor of a Ruger in 1911 coming out. Pic is from a Taurus 1911 docted up.

No, they are talking about the photoshopped joke pictures of the 1911 with a wall of text on the slide. The one with the front slide serations.

The photo at the beginning of this thread has no front slide serations.

Several people in that thread, said they saw the ad in the magazine with their own eyes.

Vonderek
April 15, 2011, 03:32 PM
I would buy a Ruger 1911 funds permitting unless they completely billboard up the slide. Most manufacturers can't help themselves from boogering up old slabsides with tasteless graffitti.

Madcap_Magician
April 15, 2011, 04:17 PM
I think the worst offender is S&W.

With the magazine safety warning and all the other crap on it. If you want that crap, put it in the manual, not on my gun!

HOOfan_1
April 16, 2011, 01:19 PM
STI is pretty bad about plastering their name and model on the side as well.

SuperNaut
April 16, 2011, 01:24 PM
Special Ruger Magazine limited to 3 rounds!

ghitch75
April 16, 2011, 01:37 PM
sure looks like a Taurus to me......photo shop?

HOOfan_1
April 16, 2011, 02:00 PM
It looks as much like a Taurus as any other 1911....

Hammer spur, completely different.
No ambidextrous safety
Vent pattern in trigger, completely different
No front slide serration
Back slide serration is completely different
Screws for holding on grips completely different

It would have to be a hell of a photoshop if it were a Taurus.

ghitch75
April 16, 2011, 02:07 PM
i'll believe it when i see it in my hand....

Hopkins
April 16, 2011, 02:56 PM
Back in the mid 80's Ruger fanned a rumor that they would follow the .223 mini 14 with a gun chambered in .308. It was years later that they produced the mini in 7.62x39. Skip the 1911 and put the casting magicians to work on a M1A1 that could be owned for under $1000.

Rob96
April 16, 2011, 04:21 PM
But I believe Ruger did produce a few experimental 308 Mini14's.

dprice3844444
April 16, 2011, 04:27 PM
well reasonably priced well made 45's made in america,are hard to come by.colt gets about 800 wholesale for the gov model in stainless

The Lone Haranguer
April 16, 2011, 04:34 PM
My tastes are currently in the direction of a more "no-frills" gun, with just larger and bolder sights and a lowered ejection port a la the Springfield MilSpec or Remington R1.

One-Time
April 16, 2011, 04:47 PM
The 1911 and Revolvers are all making whirlwind comebacks

benEzra
April 16, 2011, 05:16 PM
Back in the mid 80's Ruger fanned a rumor that they would follow the .223 mini 14 with a gun chambered in .308.
They were for-real; it was true. The gun was the Ruger XGI.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1161/_Ruger_XGI_02.jpg

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/mini-14-mini-30-gallery/38911-ruger-xgi.html

It was reportedly intended for chambering in .308 and .243. Unfortunately, accuracy was never acceptable and Ruger eventually scrapped the project.

Hopkins
April 16, 2011, 05:43 PM
I very much doubt that accuracy was the problem. Many of the mini 14s in .223 back then were less than accurate. I believe the Ruger design wasn't beefy enough to withstand a diet of standard factory .308's.

Hammerhead6814
April 16, 2011, 08:06 PM
Unless they price these under $600 they are going to get clobbered by Springfield Armory.

CSA 357
April 16, 2011, 08:18 PM
will the factory mags be $50?

Hopkins
April 16, 2011, 08:37 PM
If Ruger makes a 1911 it will have a cast slide and receiver. At least the Remington has a forged slide and receiver. SA frames and slides are still forged by Imbel.

pikid89
April 16, 2011, 09:43 PM
^yes but ruger investment casting is a whole nother kind of "casting"...it is absolutely not in the same league as cheaper types of casted metal
Rugers investment casting is every bit as strong as forgings...ruger guns dont have the indestructible reputation for nothin

rugers revolvers are investment casted and they are easily amongst the strongest revolvers in town

Hopkins
April 16, 2011, 10:00 PM
I'm not disputing the quality of Rugers' castings. 1911 fans for the most part are not partial to cast frames and slides and I don't think Ruger can win that argument with them.

gym
April 17, 2011, 01:13 AM
Unless it's a $500.00 price point they will get killed. Taurus Rock island, Springfield, para, all make a 5-600 dollar 45. Yes it may not be the best but why pay 800 for a ruger when for another 100- 200 you can get a much better gun. You are getting near bottom of the kimber, colt, smith, and many others, this may bring down prices on some 45's I really want though. Also it's hitting the used 45 market which some depreciate like Taurus rather quicklly, and many folks buy a 1911 having never had one and find it to difficult to run, clean adjust and load the guns and those tiny 7-9 round mags, need constant reloading, lol, and it better not be half plastic for 800.It looks more like they copied a Smith.

RSVP2RIP
April 17, 2011, 08:07 AM
I just got a copy of Handguns magazine June/July 2011 and this ad is on page 69.

sparks701
April 17, 2011, 10:52 AM
I will wait to see what its like, I can't say those other brands are superior untill the Ruger is in my hand to compare.

Hopkins
April 17, 2011, 11:14 AM
The problem with 1911's is similar to Single Action Army Pistols. Is Ruger going to make a Vaquero version of the 1911, if so no thanks. If you want a new SAA save up and buy a USFA. And that gun won't have a cast part in it as far as I know.

huduguru
April 17, 2011, 04:10 PM
"If Ruger makes a 1911 it will have a cast slide and receiver. At least the Remington has a forged slide and receiver. SA frames and slides are still forged by Imbel."

Negative. Remington uses cast frames. Do some research...

Rob96
April 17, 2011, 04:43 PM
Caspian uses castings produced by Ruger. I don't seem to recall anyone complaining about those.

Hopkins
April 17, 2011, 07:28 PM
I stand corrected. I did follow up that post with some research that did corroborate Remington uses a cast frame. That said I have shot the R1 and it's not a bad beginning of a 1911. You can keep the barrel,bushing,slide,and frame. The trigger,sear,safety and just about all the rest of the parts can be greatly improved by replacement.

Hopkins
April 17, 2011, 07:36 PM
I still believe Ruger will do to the 1911 what it did to the Single Action Army. It turned the SAA into a Vaquero. I think a Ruger that was faithful to the JMB 1911 design could be a fine pistol.

HOOfan_1
April 17, 2011, 10:04 PM
The gun hasn't even hit store shelves, been described, and people are still questioning whether it even exists. Yet, we already have people assuming that it will be lower quality than various other brands, and assuming things about the pricing

:rolleyes:

Sounds like blind hatred...

gglass
April 18, 2011, 12:22 PM
HOOfan_1
The gun hasn't even hit store shelves, been described, and people are still questioning whether it even exists. Yet, we already have people assuming that it will be lower quality than various other brands, and assuming things about the pricing

They are just trying to make an ASS out of U and ME.

Nushif
April 18, 2011, 01:00 PM
What originality.

If you saw what happens to originality on these boards you wouldn't touch anything new with a ten foot pole, either.
But yeah, I'm kinda skeptical. Pixelated Image, oddball timing ... not sold until I see one.
But if I see one and it's a double stack in 9mm and a compact size .... I might have to buy one.

CZF
April 18, 2011, 02:02 PM
I'd like a 1911 from ruger, but have to say that the current makrket for
DA revovlers in 9mm is stronger than one might think..

If you look at the auction sites and classifieds for anything in 9mm
you will see that they command higher prices than a .38 or 357 and
are snatched up very quickly.

A MINTY or LNIB stainless Speed Six or even a SP-101 in 9mm
would be welcome in my house:)

Heck, I'd take a blued Speed 6, too!

HOOfan_1
April 18, 2011, 02:16 PM
Well the speculation on whether it is real or not can officially end

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/models.html


safety features include
beaver tail grip safety
manual safety
visual inspection port


So sounds like there is no magazine disconnect, nor pop up loaded chamber indicatior.

Nushif
April 18, 2011, 02:41 PM
Awww. No 9mm option. Maybe in the future.

Walkalong
April 18, 2011, 02:46 PM
Hmm. Looks good on the right side. Has anyone seen the other side, and is it a billboard? Is there a FPS?

cavman
April 18, 2011, 02:55 PM
and it is a Series 70 which is nice.
no front slide serrations

It simply says

RUGER
made in usa

on the side. (but look under the frame in front of the trigger guard there are a couple of lines there. probably "don't eat lead" lawyer lines) :)

looks nice

sparks701
April 18, 2011, 03:30 PM
I really like it, from the pics at least, the price seems reasonable.

Mike J
April 18, 2011, 03:48 PM
There is a write up about it on gunblast.com. http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR1911.htm

Rob96
April 18, 2011, 03:49 PM
I like!

19-3Ben
April 18, 2011, 03:58 PM
Ooohhhh no front slide serrations. And no billboard on the slide. Very very nice.

I like the look of this gun. Depending on street price, it just might be enough to make me finally take the 1911 plunge.

swiftak
April 18, 2011, 04:02 PM
If it works as good and is as good as all my ruger pistols and revolvers, whats the problem. Gee, I guess they would be the first company to "steal" the 1911 design huh?

Right shotgunjoel?

cavman
April 18, 2011, 04:03 PM
here is a nice video

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/the-ruger-sr1911-video/9290/

Control
April 18, 2011, 04:04 PM
series 70 design
standard length guide rod
no huge bill boards
Novak sights
no front slide serrations
reasonable price
no wonky locks
standard internal extractor
made in the USA

The lawyers must have taken a day off... :D

Seems good to go... I hope it does well!

harmon rabb
April 18, 2011, 04:13 PM
wow. they didn't screw it up. they got it exactly right. i am suitably impressed.

made in america, and with ruger's customer service... this thing may sell well.

1KPerDay
April 18, 2011, 04:15 PM
No mag safety? Someone confirm?

ohwell
April 18, 2011, 04:22 PM
I'll be buying one! It looks great.

cavman
April 18, 2011, 04:27 PM
Magazine safety.

If you mean if the gun still will fire with no magazine. Yes it will fire with no magazine.

See page 20 last line
http://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/sr1911.pdf

"Remove the magazine from the pistol by pushing in on the magazine catch.
REMEMBER that even though the magazine has been removed, a live round
may remain in the chamber and the pistol can fire with the magazine
removed."

Catalina
April 18, 2011, 04:35 PM
Hoax.



[man this crow is some good eating]

1KPerDay
April 18, 2011, 04:36 PM
Excellent. I'm going to have a hard time not buying one of these.

Only thing I don't like is the 2-tone small bits. Looks pieced together to me.

No FSS = :cool:
Pre-series 80 trigger type = :cool:
All american = :cool:
Price = :cool:

Go Ruger! I gotta say I'm impressed with you guys lately.

stchman
April 18, 2011, 04:52 PM
As 1911s go it's a real nice looking one. All stainless construction with black accents, very nice.

I like what Jeff Quinn said "American made with an import price". Just goes to show you how badly the competition is gouging folks for a 1911.

I am not a huge fan of the 1911, but I was going to buy one, the SR1911 would be at the top of my list.

9mmepiphany
April 18, 2011, 07:45 PM
The Michael Bane presentation (http://www.downrange.tv/blog/the-ruger-sr1911-video/9290/) is very good and informative...plus he is a creditable firearms reporter

I'm impressed that they:
1. Have a metal checkered MSH
2. Will be offering Novak sights without the rear dots
3. Held the MSRP to $799

Not too sure about the:
1. Split burr hammer
2. Tapered grip safety

It reminds me of the AMT Hardballer

HOOfan_1
April 18, 2011, 08:14 PM
It reminds me of the AMT Hardballer

Fans of the Hitman games should take note :cool:

SUPERMAN 3
April 19, 2011, 01:50 AM
http://www.pinoy1911.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=122&start=220

Auto426
April 19, 2011, 02:17 AM
Fans of the Hitman games should take note

I always thought it quite ironic that one of the worlds best assassins would choose one of the worst 1911 clones ever produced for his personal weapon of choice. However, game developers aren't exactly gun people and they probably thought the name "Hardballer" sounded cooler than anything else.

1KPerDay
April 19, 2011, 01:30 PM
http://www.pinoy1911.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=122&start=220
Your point being? :confused:

BTW it appears one has to register to view the link you provided. Could you give us a summary?

DammitBoy
April 19, 2011, 11:05 PM
I see a Ruger 1911 in my future...

RSVP2RIP
April 21, 2011, 05:34 PM
For those who don't have the June ShootingTimes yet. It's for real. MSRP is $800. NO FP BLOCK SAFTEY! Internal extractor and everything. Just lots of cast parts, but what did you expect? Only thing is a loaded chamber indicator in the form of a cutout in the barrel hood. Looks good.

Edit to add: No saftey warnings...what the heck is going on? Is this the same Ruger?

MidwestRookie
April 21, 2011, 08:13 PM
warning are underneath the slide on the dustcover..

Ric
April 22, 2011, 01:28 AM
Is Ruger going to sue Shooting Times for blowing the release?

Husker_Fan
April 22, 2011, 11:27 AM
Heck, with PR you don't know if Ruger coordinated with ST to get all of us talking about it for a week before the actual announcement. It gets the anticipation up.

DC3-CVN-72
April 23, 2011, 09:02 PM
^1 :)

jon_in_wv
April 23, 2011, 09:21 PM
Ruger has been a front runner in casting. I don't see why it would be such a shock they are using a cast frame nor do I think it makes is any less of a weapon. Many of Rugers other pistols use castings and are considered hella-tough. Ruger is using the same castings it used for making 1911 frames for other manufacturers like Caspian. You don't hear anyone whining until it gets a Ruger nameplate on it. People BOOHOO about how Ruger "stole" designs from someone else but so did every other 1911 manufacturer. Not to mention I would LOVE to find one post from someone complaining about all the ideas Herr Glock stole to put the G17 together. I'll save myself the trouble of not looking though, I doubt I'll find it.

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