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randytrapper
April 11, 2011, 09:10 PM
I'm looking for a good gun belt. I carry a G19 in a Comp-Tac MTAC. I'm delighted with the holster but the weight makes my current (non-gun) belt droop down. I'm assuming a good belt will alleviate that.

I'm open to about anything and I seldom 'dress up' so a duty type belt would be fine.
Comp-Tac has some nice leather for around $90 that is Kydex lined as seen here:
http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=43&osCsid=mknlr3ouilvqjussuehsptde82

Less money would be fine though. I've read about Instructor belts and they are priced about $50 so that would-be good. I was looking, and they offer them in different stiffness's. I would assume I want a stiff belt, is that correct?

What I was thinking is the Wilderness Instructor belt with the CSM polymer lined for +10 That would put me at $50 plus shipping. As seen here:
http://www.thewilderness.com/storepinnacle/index.php?p=product&id=2309&parent=142

Any suggestions? I've pocket carried some and my last gun I IWB'd was a Kahr so a gun belt was never a issue. But like I said the weight is making my belt sag.

Here's what I'm carrying.
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k581/hummsale/006.jpg

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ClickClickD'oh
April 11, 2011, 09:19 PM
http://www.thebeltman.net/

I have two belts from him, one fancy and one plain. They're indestructible.

savit260
April 11, 2011, 09:33 PM
I've been using a "Hanks Amish Belt" for a while now with great results. Can't beat these for a great value and short money. Many great reviews on line to back up my own experience with them. Read about the sizing though, as they can run a bit on the small size. I went two sizes up , and it's just right.

http://www.hanksclothing.com/amish_belts_black_buy.html

Magoo
April 11, 2011, 09:50 PM
Savit260: Thanks for the link to Hank's. Hands down the best price I've seen on a leather belt for CCW. What do you carry in yours/do you think it's enough to hold up an all steel 1911 govt model?

randytrapper
April 11, 2011, 09:54 PM
**savit260

WOW Thank You! Thats an option for sure. 1/4" Thick for under $30 including shipping! I may just go with that, heck a regular belt cost as much.

savit260
April 11, 2011, 10:24 PM
What do you carry in yours/do you think it's enough to hold up an all steel 1911 govt model?

A 4 5/8" Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt , and a 4" Colt Python. A Govt. Model should be a breeze. All day with the Blackhawk or Python is no problem at all.

They ship real quick too. I' m very happy with mine.

Magoo
April 11, 2011, 10:30 PM
Sold. Thanks again for the tip.

savit260
April 11, 2011, 10:31 PM
Just remember they run small. Read some of the reviews too. Most people go +2 sizes over your waist size.

Frozen North
April 11, 2011, 10:32 PM
I like the wilderness belts allot. 5 stitch is plenty!

I have a frequent flier and an instructor model. They are both fantastic, but I prefer the FF because the ring buckles never dig in and weigh nearly nothing.

I use that same holster with a G-26. It is a winning combo for sure! Wilderness belt, MTAC holster, and a Glock are hard to beat.

randytrapper
April 11, 2011, 11:07 PM
*** Nevermind. I found additional info one their site.

Dose anyone know if the excess on the Wilderness is then held on with velcro? I'm talking after you cinch it up?
The advantage I see is, adjust-ability. But what happens to the excess once cinched up?

Zundfolge
April 12, 2011, 12:14 AM
Well crud.

I just dropped a money order into the mail this morning for $86.95 to The Beltman.net ... and NOW somebody posts about this Amish thing.

I coulda had a black AND a brown for less than my Beltman belt. :(

Oh well, apparently this Beltman belt will be the last belt I ever buy (so I've been told).


So reading the reviews I gotta wonder how the Amish feel about so many people using their belts to carry guns :p

JTQ
April 12, 2011, 12:21 AM
A&G Custom Leather

http://www.agcustomgunleather.com/

Rick Roll
April 12, 2011, 01:50 AM
I love my Beltman belt. Plus, Jim is a really nice guy. I had an enjoyable phone conversation with him before I placed my order. He does an outstanding job, and I will surely be ordering more belts from him in the future (different styles, materials, etc.)

Also, if you own a Beltman belt, take a look under the area held down by the Chicago screws (for instance, when changing your belt buckle). You'll notice that Jim puts your initials there on the leather (on the inside). I think that really adds a nice personal touch.

Paladin38-40
April 12, 2011, 07:18 AM
Well crud.

I just dropped a money order into the mail this morning for $86.95 to The Beltman.net ... and NOW somebody posts about this Amish thing.

I coulda had a black AND a brown for less than my Beltman belt. :(

Oh well, apparently this Beltman belt will be the last belt I ever buy (so I've been told).


So reading the reviews I gotta wonder how the Amish feel about so many people using their belts to carry guns :p
All cuts of leather are not the same. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is. It is easy to try to get a good but cheap gun belt and fail repeatedly. I'll let you guess how I know.

Beltman belts are worth every cent; you will have no buyers remorse.

gaijin6423
April 12, 2011, 09:01 AM
Not really leather, but I've been wearing Liger gun belts for about two years now. They've got a modern-ish, simplistic look to them, and will not warp, fade, crack, 'roll' under weight, etc. I believe they use the same material to make synthetic tack items. They do, however, usually leave a healthy sweat ring around my waistband on hot days, as they're not quite that breathable.

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Liger-Gun-Belt-c16.htm

Zundfolge
April 12, 2011, 01:30 PM
I suspect I'll be very happy with my Beltman belt (based on the buzz on the net there are a LOT of people that swear its the best built in existence), but the Amish one is 1/3rd the cost so if its only half as good that's still a good deal. That said, a year from now I doubt I'll miss the extra $50 I spent.


Would love to hear from folk with experience with both.

savit260
April 12, 2011, 02:32 PM
All cuts of leather are not the same. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is. It is easy to try to get a good but cheap gun belt and fail repeatedly. I'll let you guess how I know.

Beltman belts are worth every cent; you will have no buyers remorse.


I'm sure the Beltman is a fine belt, but let me tell ya that the Hank's Amish belt does a fine job too for very short money. It's not fancy...very basic, but works quite well. Very stiff and carries the load of my Blackhawk and Python well. No buyers remorse here, and my wallet is a little less light. :)

cls12vg30
April 12, 2011, 04:25 PM
Thanks, guys, great info! I've been carrying with a CQC Blackhawk belt for several years, but I think I'll be ordering one from Hanks in the near future.

Thanks for posting such a helpful link.

The Lone Haranguer
April 12, 2011, 08:13 PM
Dose anyone know if the excess on the Wilderness is then held on with velcro? I'm talking after you cinch it up?

Yes, it is. Also, the Velcro extends partially into the area where your holster rides, giving the belt extra friction against the straps or slots. There is no chance the holster can slip.

bigfatdave
April 12, 2011, 10:02 PM
Would love to hear from folk with experience with both. I have both. I use the BeltMan belts for carry, the CrossBreed belt for work (industrial site) and the Amish belt for ... ...
Where is that thing?

Oh, yeah, I use it to hold up outer pants for when I'm motorcycling in cold weather!

The amish belts are seriously nice, but not up to the task of holding a heavy gun long-term. I stole the buckle off of mine and put it on another belt, because I like roller buckles. That belt isn't exclusive to Hanks, either. I see them at gun shows, I see them at big&tall stores, and I see them at work-wear stores. They are really good belts, but they're nothing compared to a dedicated and purpose-built gunbelt.

JTQ
April 12, 2011, 11:56 PM
As bigfatdave said there is a difference. The Amish belt is clearly a single layer of leather. Beltman and A&G both make double layered belts. That's why they cost more.

Think of the added strength a sheet of plywood has over a similarly thick single layer of wood.
From The Beltman site
These belts are made of TWO LAYERS of relatively heavy weight (6/7 oz.) BULLHIDE! They don't stretch or sag and they will take an amazing amount of abuse and still LOOK GOOD!
From A&G Custom Leather site
Each belt is hand crafted from 2 layers of 6/7 oz Bull Hide or Horse Hide from the finest tanneries available. (the thickness will be a tad shy of .25)

bigfatdave
April 13, 2011, 07:18 AM
The Amish belt is clearly a single layer of leather.

And it is a good thick leather, too.
But there's a structural improvement in the two-layer design, and bullhide or horsehide are a bit stiffer on their own ... plus you can get a stiffener in between the layers of a two-layer belt.

Thlax
April 13, 2011, 09:49 PM
I just got a Crossbreed gun belt that I got along with my holster. Same quality craftsmanship on the belt as to the holster. Amazing. Along with the great warranty they have. I couldn't be happier.

http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/GunBelts/tabid/58/CategoryID/3/List/0/Level/1/productid/3/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName%2cProductName


***note on warranty. Beltman covers one year. Crossbread is lifetime warranty and free repair for any normal wear usage.....ie:this is the last belt I'll ever have to buy.

zoom6zoom
April 14, 2011, 12:32 AM
plus you can get a stiffener in between the layers of a two-layer belt.
True, but unless you're carrying really heavy you probably won't need it. I've been carrying my SIG229 on my Beltman belt 7 days a week for five years, no problems.

bigfatdave
April 14, 2011, 08:30 AM
unless you're carrying really heavy you probably won't need it.I didn't say it wasn't overkill.

blackspyder
April 14, 2011, 10:27 PM
I just ordered 2 of the Amish Belts from Hanks (one for me, one for Dad). Even if they aren't 100% the best holster belts in the world for the price of a belt at Walmart or TSC it looks to be worth a try. Will post a review when it comes in.

possum
April 15, 2011, 01:07 AM
i have heard nothing but great things about the ares ranger belt. alot of people in the training industry use them. I have one on order so i will let you all know when i get mine and find out how they are.

dhodgins
April 20, 2011, 08:33 PM
Another vote for A&G Custom Leather. Very stiff and excellent craftsmanship. Is perfectly at home at the range or at the office. A lot of folks like the Wilderness belts, but IMO they aren't as stiff as a nice double layer leather belt. I do like the adjustability, though, and for only $40 it's not breaking the bank to buy both. Considering the leather belt will probably last longer than your waistline it really is a wise investment.

Zundfolge
April 25, 2011, 04:14 PM
Well my Beltman belt just arrived today (I chose one of the "quick ship" belts).

I'm impressed. I've been fighting the idea of spending serious coin on a dedicated gun belt for a long time ... I wasted a lot of time and money on crap belts.

Currently packing a full size CZ75B SA in .40 in an IWB holster and frankly it carries better than my light weight Steyr S40 carried on the old cheap belt. The Steyr just disappears with the Beltman belt.

Shoulda coughed up the dough years ago.

WebHobbit
April 25, 2011, 08:18 PM
I recommend (and use) Galco:

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterP1.asp?CatalogID=253

They start at $70.00

edit:

although I'm checking out http://www.thebeltman.net and I must say I am impressed!

bigfatdave
April 25, 2011, 10:08 PM
I've been fighting the idea of spending serious coin on a dedicated gun belt for a long time ... I wasted a lot of time and money on crap belts.
That's what I've been trying to tell people!
Keep that belt halfway clean and give it a coating of the Obenauf's you can get from the BeltMan** maybe twice a year and you'll have a good-looking belt AND a good gunbelt.


**(free shipping last time I checked, and the best price I could find per ounce for the stuff)

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