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speadphreak April 11, 2011, 10:16 PM I was at the range the other day when my normally trusty TZ 75 9mm started stovepiping like crazy. Im talking one every 2-3 rounds. I had been shooting about a week before, took it home broke it down and cleaned the snot out of it. Same as always. I was shooting the same Speers Gold Dot HPs I always do. I broke the gun completely down on the bench cleaned (including blowing everything out with compressed air after cleaning)and lightly oiled it again. It ran about half a mag before doing it again
It seems like the extractor isnt letting go like it should, or its cycling to fast. As a result Im getting dents about half way up the case. I checked the extractor nothing seems bent or broke, the spring isnt boke and I didnt mix it up with either of the springs out of one of my .40s (I double checked, not that Ive done that before:rolleyes:). I have several CZ 75s, clones, or copies or whatever else you want to call them, and Im pretty familiar with them but this has me baffled. Anybody have any ideas?
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Jed Carter April 12, 2011, 04:50 AM My guess is, recoil spring is shot, had a similar problem with case mutilation from a used 1911, although no stove pipes. New recoil spring solved the problem.
JDGray April 12, 2011, 05:23 AM I associate stovepipe jams with weak ammo, or to strong a recoil spring, but it sounds like neither one of those is your problem. Is the ejector all intac? I had a KT P11 once that all of a sudden started jamming, and the ejector was broken off. My CZ75 has a pretty stout ejector, not sure about the clones.
Let us know what you find:)
Ben86 April 12, 2011, 10:52 AM It seems like the extractor isnt letting go like it should, or its cycling to fast.
Most likely you need a new recoil spring, or maybe extractor spring. How many rounds have you put through it so far?
I was shooting the same Speers Gold Dot HPs I always do.
Do you always shoot gold dots? Just asking.
chieftain April 12, 2011, 11:29 AM One should change the oil in their cars and the recoil springs in their CCW/EDC handguns on schedule if you want to MAINTAIN the reliability of your machines.
Go figure.
Fred
One-Time April 12, 2011, 12:23 PM its either weak ammo, a weak extractor or more likely you need a new recoil spring
speadphreak April 12, 2011, 06:45 PM Thanks for the replies. For what its worth theres about 2k rounds through it. Yes always Gold Dots. Ive never had a recoil spring go just like that before. Not that I have had a lot go. Usually more of a gradual thing. The ones I have had go bad start with an occaisional stovepipe here or there, this was just all of the sudden. No problems, then one right after the other.
Now that I think about I had an odd round. I dont remember now what it did but it got my attention enough that I dropped the mag cleared the weapon and looked for a stuck case and checked the barrel for a stuck bullet. It was probably one or two mags (15 - 30rounds) after that when the stovepipes started.
Ben86 April 13, 2011, 10:42 AM Yes always Gold Dots.
Reloaded?
Pilot April 13, 2011, 07:24 PM I recently replaced the extractor spring on my CZ-75B which solved my stove pipe and FTE problems. It started happening all of a sudden, and this cured mine. I have about 5K rounds through it over eleven years.
speadphreak April 13, 2011, 10:07 PM Thanks guys Ill try a new spring. Ben no reloads factory ammo.
Ben86 April 14, 2011, 10:51 AM Thanks guys Ill try a new spring. Ben no reloads factory ammo.
I recommend Wolff gunsprings, fantastic springs.
You only shoot factory gold dots? Why? Haven't you heard of cheap fmj ammo? It puts holes in paper just as well. You can afford to shoot more that way. ;)
JDGray April 14, 2011, 07:33 PM You only shoot factory gold dots? Why? Haven't you heard of cheap fmj ammo? It puts holes in paper just as well. You can afford to shoot more that way.
Maybe He's LE or knows a LEO, who gets super great deals on LE ammo.....I mean really, really good deals:evil:
speadphreak April 14, 2011, 11:18 PM LEO? My names not Leo, I dont even know anyone named Leo.:p
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