[Sisco]

Would you tell anyone?

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :evil:

[Blackhawk]

No.

But I wouldn't tell anyone if I owned Glock, H&K, Ruger, S&W, etc., either.

Same goes for General Motors, Boeing, Sony, Intel, etc.

And I'm NOT kidding....

[The Plainsman]

But for what I paid for it, I don't mind. Mostly, it holds up one corner of my gun locker, but every once in a while, when I have the urge to spray some 9MM around, I get it out and light up the "lazer".

It's kinda like a "serious" BB gun. Hey, I did get a nice t-shirt with it, though. :p

[seeker_two]

Yep.

And I'd really push the "Firearms are Freedoms for Everyone--Not Just Rich Hollywood Elitists" platform. They make an inexpensive firearm that just about anyone can afford. What's wrong w/ that?

[cratz2]

I'd look up everyone that legally possessed one of my guns and appologize for making the ugliest modern guns known to man. Then I'd give them a second identical one for free.

I'd make up a bunch of spare guns and spare parts and close my doors. I'd let the same company that services old Tasco scopes do my service.

[Schuey2002]

No, I wouldn't tell anyone if I owned High Point..

I would sell it right away.. :D

[10-Ring]

...I guess I could hide in shame.

...or hang out w/ the guy that owns Taurus and look like an idiot.

...melt them down & make really nice soda bottles.

...add a water reservior to ithem and use it as originally intended...a not so super soaker.

[Hoploholic]

LOL, you would be very surprised to find out many people have received alot of quality service out of the ugly little bastages. They may be cheap but they can take quite a beating. Personally I think that while the pistols are uglier, they offer the best qqulaity. Then again, the more ignorant looking the better for me.

[80fl]

As posted by Seeker:

Yep.

And I'd really push the "Firearms are Freedoms for Everyone--Not Just Rich Hollywood Elitists" platform. They make an inexpensive firearm that just about anyone can afford. What's wrong w/ that?

A most excellent point!

[MP-44]

I would tell everyone and while I was at it I would tell them that I am offering the 9mm Carbine in versions that accept uzi & sten mags. I also would announce that I would also offer a .45 acp carbine that accepts Thompson mags.

[New_comer]

It would be the "Lo-Point" of my career...:evil::neener:

[Tamara]

I'd announce the Hi-Point Mk.II by going to a better grade of semigloss latex on the slide. ;) :D

[Boats]

I'd come up with a new marketing slogan, "It's definitely better than nothing--maybe."

Or, "At least it is not a Jennings!"

[guy sajer]

We sold 10 Wilson's last year . 3 went back for service .

We sold 200 Hi Point's last year . 3 went back for service .


Mitch
www.oldeenglishoutfitters.com

[suvdrvr]

Yes! I'd then triple the price so I could brag about how much I paid for my firearm. I think the sales would go up as the elitist found out how much they could pay for one.

[Flying V]

I'd bring out .40 S&W and .45 ACP versions of the carbine. I'd briefly consider a 10mm version, but I'd realize that blowback 10mms are a bad idea.

[God]

Sisco: Would you tell anyone?

I DO own High Point!
You can have it for your Ruger and a six pack of Bud Light.
C'mon, that's fair... wana trade? :D :scrutiny: :D

[Sisco]

How about my Clerke 1st .22 and a couple of cans of Keystone light?

[standingbear]

make the magwell on the" planet of the apes"carbine version out of real metal and add much more steel reinforcments,i broke the last one(grip thats also the magwell) i picked up by apparantly squeezing too hard,let out a "woops its broken",glad i didnt have to buy it..accidently..conversion kit that shot bbs(lol)seriously though,the pistols arent bad for being cheapies,theyll work if theres nothing else.the carbines are just too flimsy.

[duck hunt]

Make an M995 with a shorter stock and the ability to accept Glock or Barretta magazines.

[Guyon]

I'd sell them at marinas as "Tactical Boat Anchors."

[sixgun_symphony]

I would produce an

- American made AK-47 with synthetic stock.

- 7.62x25mm Pistol

- 7.62x25mm carbine.

- A small .32acp pistol to compete with Kel-Tec and Seecamp.

[denfoote]

I DID own a Hi-Point!! :rolleyes:

It lies beneath the ground, buried somewhere in the vast Sonoran desert for low these almost 10 years!! :eek:

I'm Tropical Z's worst nightmare!! A former Hi-Point owner who knows of what he speaks when he declares them to be a POS class vessel!!!! :neener:

[Tropical Z]

If I owned Hi-Point,i'd be proud that im offering for sale a quality piece of engineering that might save someones life-even if that person works for minimum wage!
I'd also sell versions of the carbine that take different mags (like Kel-Tec) and make sure that a version takes either Sten or Uzi mags.Come on Hi-Point LISTENNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!;)

[45R]

Add a 1911 to the collection and make sure they go bang everytime I pull the trigger.

[jds9247]

It is insignificant whether I would tell anyone or not since I am not the owner. But I do know the owner personally and find him to be one of the best hearted and layed back people on this earth. He is the type that would help anyone in need. The price is kept low so everyone can own a weapon and not because they are cheap. As a Police Chief now retired he supplyed my department with the 995 carbine 9mm. I sent two of my people to school along with officers with the big expensive automatics. The laughing stopped when the shooting started. My people was embarrassed at first and proud when the other officers with the big expensive guns started looking and asking about their weapons because they were getting out shot.

[OEF_VET]

Holy Necropost Batman!

Welcome aboard, sir. I've long told people that although Hi-Point's are ugly as sin, they do what they're supposed to do, and you can't argue with that.

My first pistol was a Hi-Point .380. (I got raped by a savvy dealer who knew a sucker when he saw one. He got my Colt AR-15A2 and a truckload of accessories, for a Russian SKS, a Hi-Point .380, and 100 rounds of ammo for each. This was in '96, and the AR was a pre-ban.) While the pistol was too dang heavy to carry around for very long, it never failed to go bang. If someone is on a budget, and a Hi-Point is all they can afford, then it's better than waving around a sharpened, poo-covered stick.

The carbines? Man, can they shoot tight groups? All day long, and twice as often on Sundays. You need an inexpensive plinker, or a carbine to give you a little more range than your pistol, and you can't afford to drop a ton of cash? There's nothing wrong with a Hi-Point 995, other than their inability to accept mags with a capacity above 10 rounds.

jds, you want to help your friend, and do his customers a service? Urge him to produce higher capacity magazines. Better yet, urge him to make the mags for his pistols and rifles both interchangeable, and higher capacity. Oh, and releasing .45 and .40 versions would be a good move as well.

[wolf_from_wv]

Not at first... I would wait until the guy from hipointforums.com perfects the 9mm drum magazines, hire him, mass produce them, then buy a big advertisement in a gun magazine...

[Lonestar]

I think Hi-point makes decent guns for the money, however I would be too embarrassed to own one. I would be to paranoid :uhoh: thinking everyone is looking at me while at the range, kind of like the person with the 500lb ugly date at the prom.

[Essex County]

I'll never purchase one. However, I'd rather see a responsible citizen with one than no gun at all.........Essex

[1911 guy]

His house got broken into a couple years ago. Thamkfully, they were gone at the time, but the "What if..." game started playing in his head. Disabled with three kids and a wife who skipped town, money is tight for Fred, so a Hi-Point found it's way to his house. Used, no less. 9mm carbine with a Ray-O-Vac flashlight DUCT TAPED to the barrel. No, I'm not kidding.

Anyhow, Fred is out shooting his blaster last summer, comes to me and says it broke, can I fix it. I took it home and stripped it. I cleaned more junk out of that carbine than had any rigt to be there. Spiffed it up for him and sent it back.

My point is this: Any other semi-auto I'm aware of would have choked long ago with the crud that was in there. It ain't pretty, but it kept working. Will I go out and buy one? No, but I won't knock somebody else who does. It may be, in proportion to their income, a very big expense.

[blue sea]

Well they do make nice boat anchors....

[tackleberry]

they do not make good boat anchors....the carbines float....dont ask!!!!:uhoh:

[gulogulo1970]

I don't recall ever seeing a thread started with my Hi Point doesn't work. I don't own one but the previous sentence speaks volumes for them.

[wolf_from_wv]

I was using a Weaver mount screwed to the side of the stock, with 1" scope mounts and a (2) CR123A cell flashlight.

If something goes wrong with it, they go far beyond what is required. It would be like taking you car in for a free new rear axle, and finding out they fixed the paint scratches and minor damage on the car for free, too... All it costs is the shipping, and they find a way to make that up to you.

[Satch]

I bought a 995 about a month ago and after putting on a Red-dot and after 400 rds.with no problems I'd say it's a good gun for "plinking" which I do mostly. I'm almost 67 so I'm not going to spend 600 to a 1000 bucks to go to the range to burn up a 100 rds a week on paper targets.
The guy at the store were I bought it said he's sold a bunch of them and knows of only a few needed to be sent in for repairs. How many of our car co's or other manufactures can claime that.
They must think they have a reliable product if they offer life time free service.

[MD_Willington]

If it
A. Made holes in my targets
B. Was economical
C. Required little maintenace to keep it running
D. Had a good warranty

Yes, I'd recommend it as just that, something that; required little maintenace to keep it running, was economical, made holes in my targets & had a good warranty...

I have a rather nice Zippo, but also have some cheap BiC's from the dollar tree...

Same line of thinking here...

[CajunBass]

Would I tell anyone if I owned Hi-Point? (The company)
I don't see why not. Is owning a successful business something to be ashamed of?

Would I tell anyone that I own a Hi-Point? I have, dozens of times. I've even posted pictures of it.

What would I change if I owned Hi-Point? I'd see if I couldn't make/get made a more reliable magazine. (My guess is magazines are subcontracted, not made in-house.) They seem to be the weak point. If I could do that, I'd probably eleminate a very large percentage of the guns that get sent back for service.

[dfaugh]

Would I tell anyone if I owned Hi-Point? (The company)
I don't see why not. Is owning a successful business something to be ashamed of?

Would I tell anyone that I own a Hi-Point? I have, dozens of times. I've even posted pictures of it.

What would I change if I owned Hi-Point? I'd see if I couldn't make/get made a more reliable magazine. (My guess is magazines are subcontracted, not made in-house.) They seem to be the weak point. If I could do that, I'd probably eleminate a very large percentage of the guns that get sent back for service.

I'd be proud to sell an inexpensive gun THAT WORKS, and that I offer the kind of customer service, that I've read about but never used.

My 995 carbine (puchased when they first came out) has over 5000 rounds through it, and it's never given a problem. Not one. Zero. Zip. Nada. Don't know about magazine problems but I've never had one.

All kinds of ammo from (mostly) Wolf and Blazer to Black Talon +P+. In my experience the only people that don't like the carbines, don't own one. (No personal experience with their handguns). And I have NEVER stripped this thing down for cleaning. It's like the Energizer Bunny...It keeps going...and going...and going....

I've recommended them to a couple dozen people (that aren't really "gunnies") as a good (although maybe not ideal) HD weapon. No CCW hassles (a real pain here in NY), can be stored unloaded, but quickly loaded, lightweight, no recoil and easy to use. And did I mention reliable? I've also used mine to teach dozens of "new" shooters--start with a .22, the move to the 9mm autoloader. Eveyone that shoots it, loves it.

[fresno_kimber45]

A cheap but decently made gun is a huge marketing tool. Offer a buy one get one free and you are set. If it fires when it needs to then it is a gun worth buying and selling for that matter.

The only downside to these guns is the easy throw away method many lowlifes use them for. I think that if guns are more expensive they may stay out of some hands but all in all if they want them they will get them.

Never shot one personally, the sights just really bugged me and my kimber was just too nice looking not to take her.

[tellner]

I'd be happy. Even in today's highly competitive computer world they're making money in networking supplies. They have good sales and lots of high-powered customers.

[patriot2980]

Would I tell anybody? Yes. Absolutely. I do tell people. I own the 995 carbine and I have well over 2000 rounds through it and not a problem since I got it. Not one time have I had an FTF or a jam. Anyone who has never tested one of these guns for themselves need to keep their mouths shut. It's not going to be a CX4 Storm.....Was never meant to be. I don't expect it to be. But it's reliable and enjoyable.With a few minor changes to the body of the gun,which I took care of right off the bat. Wasn't crazy about the factory stock so I purchased the new ATI Strike Force stock from Advanced Technologies.
Also mounted a red-dot scope and keep a 4x32 scope along side and switch out from time to time.
Put some tactical rails and a Streamlight Scorpion on it with a laser mount integral in the end of the stock. Beef that baby up and you've got a very good home defense/plinker/ tactical good time gun for barely a fraction of what the Beretta CX4 Storm costs. I'm still waiting for a forward grip to come out for the new ATI stock. Are you listening, Advanced Technologies?

[Zundfolge]

If I owned High Point I'd release a version in 10mm ... and a 1911 clone (but not a 100% clone, more of a gun like Ballester Molina. :neener:


Or maybe make a deal with IMI and start importing Barak (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg132-e.htm) pistols under the High Point name.

Also license the Nambu Type 94 (with patented "Squeeze-Fire" technology :) )

[JohnKSa]

I don't recall ever seeing a thread started with my Hi Point doesn't work.I've definitely seen some folks post about Hi-Point function issues. In addition, I was standing in a gun shop when a fellow brought one back cause it wouldn't work. I think it's fair to call them the best of the ultra-low-budget guns (maybe even by a wide margin) but that's about the extent of it.

[MDMadrid]

I think Hi-point makes decent guns for the money, however I would be too embarrassed to own one. I would be to paranoid thinking everyone is looking at me while at the range, kind of like the person with the 500lb ugly date at the prom.

That is the way I felt when I took my Concealed Weapons Class, my friends dared me to take my hi-point. I was a little paranoid at first, but at the end of the class I was the only one in the whole class that did not have some sort of problem with their gun! (6 others besides me)

It all comes down to...those who have never fired one, don't like them. Those who own one think that are great for the price! I do.

Those of you who are gun snobs...well, all I have to say that if it takes an expensive gun to make you feel safe...maybe you should reevaluate your life!

[Manyirons]

Nothin wrong witha HI POINT, theys a great beater an tackle box gun thats right handy when ya need that extra anchor!

[JohnKSa]

Those of you who are gun snobs...well, all I have to say that if it takes an expensive gun to make you feel safe...maybe you should reevaluate your life!I own several guns that I bought for less than what a Hi-Point normally retails in this area. What's more, I frequently carry one of them for self-defense!

If you looked in my safe, the LAST thing you would think is "gun snob".

[swingset]

I'm a proud Hi-Point owner.

Have a Carbine, and it's reliable, accurate and cost less than many guns I've bought that crapped out from the get-go.

Best of all, Hi-Point is made in America (20 minutes from my house) and they offer a transferable life-time warranty (better than most companies).

What should I be ashamed of? I'd be more ashamed if I spent $1500 on a gun that didn't do what my Hi-Point does...and I know some people who can say exactly that.

[Vairochana]

Gday- I am not a pistol shooter and claim no knowledge of same->so what is so wrong with the Hi Point line?
Is it just the looks, or the price?
It seems that everone, even those who bag Hi Point say they are reliable and cheap-kind of like the AK which is similarly revered.
I had a look at the site and the pistols look like every other semi auto to me (hastily ducks barrage of thrown objects and food) and I must admit that the carbine is ugly to my eye, but then I am not a fan of the AR's looks either (prepares to flee for life).
Could someone tell me why Hi Point is so often used asa punchline? :confused:

[dracphelan]

Would I admit it if I owned the Hi Point corporation? Yes
Do I own a Hi Point firearm? I did, and my wife does.

The problems people have with High Point firearms?
1. They are cheap and quite often end up in the hands of people who do not respect individual property rights. Nothing you can really do about that.
2. The pistols are difficult to take down for easy cleaning. You need a punch to remove the pin that holds the slide onto the frame.
3. They are ugly.

[Stiletto Null]

One of their carbines is pretty high on my list. I think I'm going to wind up with another M39 first, though.

[Zen21Tao]

I agree that a Hi-Point is better than nothing if that is all a person can afford. I doubt very seriously an attacker breaking into your home is goint to stop and laugh at you if you point a loaded Hi-point at him. He certainly won't notice a difference between being shot by a Hi-point 9mm and say a Glock 9mm.

['Card]

Personally? I'm really glad there's at least one company out there that is willing to defy the business model embraced by most gun manufacturers - that personal defence and the right to keep and bear arms is only for people with a significant amount of disposable income.

Love them or hate them, no one could disagree that Hi-Point is genuinely trying to be creative and innovative in their quest to make reliable, affordable firearms. That's a huge difference from all the other companies out there cranking out cheap knock-offs of the same old crap.

I don't own one (thankfully, I don't need to) but I've considered buying one of their guns just because I really like what they're trying to do.

[Ohio Rifleman]

My dad owns a Hi-point 9mm carbine and has never had any problems with it. And, if it's true that they repair everything for free, no questions asked, then I'd say it's a pretty good deal. And they're located pretty much right next door to me. I don't own a Hi-point, but I will certainly consider purchasing one as a first handgun. Not all of us can afford a Smith & Wesson or a Glock.

Besides, guns aren't made to look pretty. Most of them anyway. They're meant to go bang when you pull the trigger. If Hi-points do that reliably, I say they're worth every penny. Also, I'm personally a shooter without much money, so that makes Hi-points that much more appealing.

[GeorgiaGlocker]

I wouldn't buy a Hi point!