Scandium alloy framed 1911s?


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JellyJar
April 17, 2011, 03:02 PM
I have heard that 1911s with aluminum frames will wear out faster than steel framed ones. What about scandium aluminum allow frames? Does anyone make them and if so would they last longer then standard aluminum frames?

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rellascout
April 17, 2011, 03:06 PM
Are you going to shoot more than 25,000+ rounds? If not you will be fine.

WC145
April 17, 2011, 03:50 PM
The only company making guns with scandium alloy is S&W. They're supposed to be at least as strong as steel so I would assume they'd last longer than aluminum.

As rellascout pointed out, unless you're planning to shoot some outrageous amount through the gun your not going to wear one out. I've never used that as a criteria for buying any weapon.

Zerodefect
April 17, 2011, 04:04 PM
If it's real scandium it should be very tough.

I have a MH Trango 2 mountaineering tent with poles made out of that. It's strong stuff. I never have to worry about dropping my pack or something and bending my poles.

whatnickname
April 17, 2011, 04:57 PM
Some things just seem to come around every once in a while. This one has been bouncing around for at least 50 years with some pretty notable people on both sides of the issue. I once read an article that Skeeter Skelton (remember him?) wrote where he put 10,000 rounds through a Colt Commander as fast as he could. Seems like there was one minor failure where the plunger tube controlling the safety and slide release had to be re-staked. I've had to do that on some steel frame guns too! The bottom line is that there was no appreciable wear on the frame of the pistol. On the other hand the frames of the Beretta Tomcat seemed to develop a high incidence of frame cracks...Now there you go! It's the aluminum frame...that's proof of it right there!!! NOT! The Mauser HSC in .380 (steel frame pistol) has a high incidence of frames cracking...this one has a high incidence of not working at all but that's another story. So what are we to think? Simply this: Anything can be misused or abused to the point of failure. Some things that are not misused break anyway. Probably due to either poor design, poor quality metal, poor workmanship or some combination of the three. Period. End of discussion. All things being equal a good quality aluminum framed pistol will last just as long and give just as good service as its steel frame counter part. Push either beyond the limits of its capability and you'll regret it. With firearms everything is a trade off. Polymer and aluminum frame guns are lighter and more comfortably carried. They're going to kick harder because they're lighter and on and on and on...

Leviathan5964
April 17, 2011, 05:23 PM
Most people will never shoot an aluminum, steel or scandium frame to failure. If you do and you can afford that much ammo then you can certainly afford another frame. Stop worrying, buy what you like and go shoot.

Redhat
April 17, 2011, 06:15 PM
You guys know the M9 Beretta has an alloy frame right? They seem pretty tough.

JTQ
April 17, 2011, 06:21 PM
If you do and you can afford that much ammo then you can certainly afford another frame.
I would get another frame, but I spent all my money on ammo.:)

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