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revolversrbetter
April 18, 2011, 03:24 AM
...spanish written on the side?

What's up with that?!?

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Grunt Medic TXARNG
April 18, 2011, 04:24 AM
The 4-line trademark on my mid-70's 10-5 M&P reads -

MADE IN USA
MARCAS REGISTRADAS
SMITH & WESSON
SPRINGFIELD, MASS.

'Marcas Registradas' is Latin and not Spanish.

In May, 1948, Smith & Wesson changed their simple "Made In USA" rollmark to a more complex four line bilingual version. This was to combat the many Spanish counterfiet revolvers being produced.

For collectors, the 4 line rollmark indicates a definite post war gun.

SkippySanchez
April 18, 2011, 10:37 AM
It is Latin, not Spanish, and it translates to registered trademark

DickM
April 18, 2011, 11:58 AM
On the assumption that you guys aren't kidding . . .

Marcas Registradas is most certainly not Latin - (1) the "as" ending appears only in the accusative plural of first declension nouns, and (2) neither root is used in Latin, AFAIK. Something like "nota fabrica" might be a reasonable approximation of "registered trademark."

Marcas Registradas does, however, translate directly from the Spanish as "trademark(s)."

joed
April 18, 2011, 12:22 PM
Marcas Registradas is most certainly not Latin - (1) the "as" ending appears only in the accusative plural of first declension nouns, and (2) neither root is used in Latin, AFAIK. Something like "nota fabrica" might be a reasonable approximation of "registered trademark."

Marcas Registradas does, however, translate directly from the Spanish as "trademark(s)."

I'm with you 100%, couldn't figure how anyone could say Latin.

But I'm going to differ with you on the meaning which is, "able to leap tall buildings in a single bound".

Seven For Sure
April 18, 2011, 12:54 PM
Dick M - I thank you for the education!

41
April 18, 2011, 01:05 PM
I have 2 S&W's one auto and one revolver, and neither one have any kind of Spanish on them.

The auto says:
Smith & Wesson
Springfield, MA USA

The revolver says:
SPFLD, MA
S&W U.S.A

SaxonPig
April 18, 2011, 02:26 PM
Spanish not Latin. The warning in Spanish came about because numerous gun companies in Spain were turning out near copies of S&W products and selling then with deceptive ads to make buyers think they were getting the genuine article. The Spanish was added on advice of counsel so the Spanish speaking gun makers couldn't claim they didn't understand the stamping.

Husker_Fan
April 18, 2011, 02:43 PM
DickM,
Did you play the Roman Centurion in Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"?

DickM
April 18, 2011, 03:07 PM
Did you play the Roman Centurion in Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"?

I'm afraid it's only because I'm old enough to have gone to high school when Latin was a required subject, and ended up being pretty good at it. (But not good enough to be qualified to hold the hat and coat of my Dad, who could speak it fluently!).

revolversrbetter
April 18, 2011, 03:33 PM
the "classics" being sold today still have it

wouldn't you think they'd update it for the times?, I mean, are there any gun makers in Spain still threatening the S&W market opportunity?

maybe they should change it to Portuguese, to ensure the makers of Taurus can't deny having had the ability to read the trademark

ArchAngelCD
April 18, 2011, 06:06 PM
maybe they should change it to Portuguese, to ensure the makers of Taurus can't deny having had the ability to read the trademark
I guess that would work if Taurus were manufactured in Portugal instead of Brazil.

JHK94
April 18, 2011, 06:08 PM
Quote:
maybe they should change it to Portuguese, to ensure the makers of Taurus can't deny having had the ability to read the trademark
I guess that would work if Taurus were manufactured in Portugal instead of Brazil.
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The language spoken in Brazil is Portuguese, as it used to be a colony of Portugal.

Diggers
April 18, 2011, 06:15 PM
Heh funny

Guillermo
April 18, 2011, 07:19 PM
I guess that would work if Taurus were manufactured in Portugal instead of Brazil.

If the buyer were duped into buying a Taurus instead of a Smith it is a crap shoot as to whether they would own the superior revolver.

zoom6zoom
April 18, 2011, 09:27 PM
I'm with you 100%, couldn't figure how anyone could say Latin.
But isn't that what they speak in Latin America? ;)

branshew
April 18, 2011, 10:24 PM
If I may pontificate here for a moment:

This thread brings to the forefront what most anti-gun liberals love to say about gun owners: that we are all a bunch of uneducated rednecks.

I especially have to give Grunt Medic some kudos for being so assertive in his incorrect reply, especially when his explanation gives the exact reason the mark is written in Spanish and not Latin.

I could understand the mark being in latin if the Vatican had been making counterfeit copies, but I would think that one would have heard enough Spanish these days to recognize it. (Isn't our 2nd language now?) It is only slightly easier to comprehend one's not knowing the native language of South America's largest nation.

Like it or not, many of you have just given cause to keep the liberal stereotype alive.

ricebasher302
April 18, 2011, 10:45 PM
branshew,

Let's not get carried away. There are plenty of gun owners who wouldn't know the difference between a S&W 29 and a Desert Eagle and who post videos of themselves being idiots on Youtube. I think they keep the stereotype alive.

I do not believe THR is a popular place to for anti-gun liberals to cruise for evidence of ignorace toward guns. Give these guys a break. They're having a productive discussion of a valid topic.

SharpsDressedMan
April 18, 2011, 10:51 PM
Uneducated redneck!! I resemble that remark!

Manco
April 18, 2011, 11:01 PM
If I may pontificate here for a moment:

This thread brings to the forefront what most anti-gun liberals love to say about gun owners: that we are all a bunch of uneducated rednecks.

Well, there is a difference between knowledge and schooling that some of the more uppity anti-gunners fail to recognize.

Radagast
April 18, 2011, 11:16 PM
Just to add to the confusion, a 4 line address can be found stamped on some S&W
Model of 1917s that were manufactured prior to 1920 but not sold until the 1950s.

As for the redneck remarks, I am reminded of a character in a John Ringo novel with 3 PHDs in hard science who says " I would make a redneck joke, but I are one".

I'm a roofer and gun nut, often I have a red neck from working in the sun. I also qualify for Mensa membership and before I grew up I ran a sales office turning over millions and had an unhealthy interest is computers. What does that make me, a rednerd?

SaxonPig
April 18, 2011, 11:24 PM
I read somewhere that the NRA membership averages 5 years of college.

Sure, there are some good old boy gun owners, but there are just as many professional people as well. Gun ownership crosses all cultural lines.

Radagast
April 18, 2011, 11:24 PM
I think Manco has hit it on the head, education today, at least in the social sciences, appears to be about absorbing the prejudices of the faction in power, even in the hard sciences students are required to study some social science units to become 'well rounded individuals'. Welll rounded as in shaped into a round peg to fit nicely into the round hole that society intends to force them into.
A true well rounded individual such as Jefferson or Edison, capable of free thought, original ideas and actual production would be considered a dangerous radical. Maybe even a redneck?

ArchAngelCD
April 18, 2011, 11:24 PM
The language spoken in Brazil is Portuguese, as it used to be a colony of Portugal.
I stand corrected, they do speak Portuguese in Brazil... :o

jhvaughan2
April 19, 2011, 12:32 AM
If I may pontificate here for a moment:

But wouldn't you have to do that in latin?

This thread brings to the forefront what most anti-gun liberals love to say about gun owners: that we are all a bunch of uneducated rednecks.


That is so wrong. Some of us are educated rednecks

A degree in Chemistry, and masters in Business, and still drive a Dodge Pickup and shoot a "thuty-thuty"

revolversrbetter
April 19, 2011, 01:21 PM
Like it or not, many of you have just given cause to keep the liberal stereotype alive.

I don't know about that. The other alternative, perhaps, is that what's being displayed is some intellectual curiosity combined with a willingness to learn, mixed in with a little bit of light-hearted humor.

Art Eatman
April 19, 2011, 07:15 PM
E. Nuff.

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