Tyler T Grip Prices


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earlthegoat2
April 20, 2011, 08:19 AM
I know this has been posted on before but I just did another eBay search and the prices for them have reached new highs.

A J frame bid up to 60 with a day left
A K frame bid up to 86 with a day left
Another J frame up to 41 with 3 days left.

I guess I will just have to go to aftermarket grips.

I hope someone buys out the company and starts making them again to get rid of these collector prices.

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Flint Ridge
April 20, 2011, 08:53 AM
"rumor" on Smith forum they have serious legal/business issues or maybe not.

That may be fueling some of this.

And the patents are probably long ago expired, so anybody could compete at any time they saw a business opportunity.

1KPerDay
April 20, 2011, 12:45 PM
Pretty crazy... makes me want to list my spares on fleabay. :uhoh:

Remo223
April 20, 2011, 01:01 PM
The old guy that made the tyler T grip had a heart attack. His son is trying to take over but can't keep up with demand. I get the impression he is trying to do this nights while keeping his day job.

Also, the new T grips are slightly different shape than the old ones. The new ones fill in more space and jam your middle finger tighter up against the back side of the trigger guard. You have to grind away some of the material if you want a fit like the older T grip.

Because the newly made T grips aren't as good as the old ones, and because they can't keep up with demand, prices are going to go sky high. especially for the older ones.

Toforo
April 20, 2011, 01:13 PM
The old guy that made the tyler T grip had a heart attack. His son is trying to take over but can't keep up with demand. I get the impression he is trying to do this nights while keeping his day job.

Also, the new T grips are slightly different shape than the old ones. The new ones fill in more space and jam your middle finger tighter up against the back side of the trigger guard. You have to grind away some of the material if you want a fit like the older T grip.

Because the newly made T grips aren't as good as the old ones, and because they can't keep up with demand, prices are going to go sky high. especially for the older ones.
Yup - exactly.

oldbear
April 20, 2011, 04:07 PM
As much as I hate to admit I'm one of the insane high bidders on Ebay of a T grip, I did get the one I wanted for $66.00, insane yes, but the T grip was what I wanted/needed to finish of my M 19-3 remake project. I believe that the T grip will really set of the set of stag grips I received last week.

Between grips, shipping, FFL transfer fees, and gunsmith fees I may have spent more on assorted stuff than I did on the sales price of the gun. But I have shortened my must have weapons list by one.

April 23, 2011 update. My T-grip arrived today. It fits well and looks great, and between the stags and the T-grip the over all grip is not that different from the O/S target grips I'm used to.

Now the best part. A new, ever used, still in the box J frame sized T-grip just sold for $255.00 on EvilBay. So my $66.00 investment may not have been so bad after all.
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Well, I checked E-bay last night, and notes several T-grips for sale in the $30.00 - $40.00 bid range, perhaps people are starting to settle down and get over the buying panic.

mrbro
April 20, 2011, 04:20 PM
Pachmayr made these style adapters too. I've got a set on an old K frame and love them.

1KPerDay
April 20, 2011, 05:34 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190523321892&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Good grief... :rolleyes: Current bid $177.00

Creature
April 20, 2011, 05:43 PM
The old guy that made the tyler T grip had a heart attack. His son is trying to take over but can't keep up with demand. I get the impression he is trying to do this nights while keeping his day job.


He should either sell the patent and make a nice, tidy little fortune ... or quit his day job and start catching up.

Zundfolge
April 20, 2011, 05:57 PM
According to their web site they recently moved to a new shop.

http://www.t-grips.com/

earlthegoat2
April 20, 2011, 06:14 PM
Hopefully they get normal production up again and start taking web orders as well. I can wait if I have to.

Its just the "if" I am worried about.

Barkoff
April 20, 2011, 08:18 PM
I'm worried he'll see what his product fetches on eBay. I'm currently three months into a wait..I'll wait before getting impatient and paying those prices.

Remo223
April 20, 2011, 11:35 PM
^3 months!? and still no T grips? sheesh.

I ordered 5 of them last june-ish and got them in 10 weeks. I thought that was lunacy. I mean how long can it take to cast and polish 4 thimble fulls of metal into a shape that is your ONLY product? One guy should be able to do 50 at a time in a one car garage.

S&Wfan
April 21, 2011, 12:05 AM
A thread at the S-W forum today talked about the business being possibly shut down by the state, along with ordering them not to take any new orders for product . . . and to either ship all back ordered product or issue refunds NOW.

In any event, it is still a mess out there at Tyler.

madcratebuilder
April 21, 2011, 08:58 AM
I guess I need to find that shoe box with all my old t-grips. Tyler was not the only Co. to make them.

Barkoff
April 21, 2011, 11:11 PM
Shut down..taxes? The family has a winner, why don't they sell the buisness?

Barkoff
April 21, 2011, 11:13 PM
I guess I need to find that shoe box with all my old t-grips. Tyler was not the only Co. to make them.

Well if you have one for a RB K-frame, hook a brother up!

earlthegoat2
April 21, 2011, 11:21 PM
Im thinking of making my own out of wood. May or may not be as classy.

tipoc
April 21, 2011, 11:36 PM
I have a couple of boxes of these for S&Ws, Colt's and Ruger's guess it may be time to sell a few.

tipoc

ArchAngelCD
April 22, 2011, 02:46 AM
Too bad Pachmayr stopped making their T like grips years ago. I think they were only $15 and worked just as well. I have 2 sets and one of them actually are marked S&W from back in 1948. (on my 1948 M&P)

earlthegoat2
April 22, 2011, 05:50 AM
Those Pachmayr grip adapters have also gone up in price. It would seem since Tylers went up, folks started gravitating to the less known and less expensive alternative.

I never would have thought I could have bought all the T grips I ever saw on eBay 6 months ago and sell them now for 3-4 times what I paid.

1KPerDay
April 22, 2011, 01:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190523321892&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Good grief... :rolleyes: Current bid $177.00
Closed at $255. Just unbelievable.

ColtPythonElite
April 22, 2011, 01:26 PM
$255 is nutz....Within the past couple of months I bought a NOS Tyler in one of those little cardboard boxes. I paid 20-some bucks for it. I believe the original price written in pencil had been $7.50.........If she'll bring $200+ bucks, she's outta here...LOL.

I'm plenty confident Tyler will back up and running sooner or later...Geez, the guy had a heart attack and his family had to deal with his medical issues and try to keep the business running. I've talked one of his son on the phone a couple of times and understand they do a good business, but it is nearly a one man operation. It's only been about 6 months or so. They need a little time to get thru the crisis.

Husker_Fan
April 22, 2011, 01:35 PM
He should either sell the patent and make a nice, tidy little fortune ... or quit his day job and start catching up.

I can't imagine that there are any patents still in force that would cover the product. If someone wants to start up a shop and make them, the only thing stopping them is the capital cost.

Vonderek
April 22, 2011, 02:03 PM
I didn't have too great an experience with my one dealing with the company. If people are willing to pay $200 for an item that can be made for a couple of bucks and a bit of labor then there is a great business opportunity for someone with some casting and polishing skills.

wrangler5
April 23, 2011, 10:43 AM
I can't imagine that there are any patents still in force that would cover the product. If someone wants to start up a shop and make them, the only thing stopping them is the capital cost.

I had this very conversation yesterday with a friend who has experience making and selling cast products. My thought was to take my 1950s vintage T-grip for a K frame S&W and have a mold made to cast duplicates in one of the indestructible resins now available. That allows room temperature production on a kitchen table, with any color you want and a surface that would duplicate my smooth original. (If demand was there I'd find J and N frame adapters to copy as well.)

Molds for low volume production of this kind of product cost in the hundreds, not thousands, and material cost per unit would be very low, but production is mix-and-pour-one-batch-of-resin-at-a-time, so quite labor intensive. Still, he says in a weekend I could knock out hundreds of the things. (It's how he makes one of his products, so this is real world experience talking.) It still would need advice from a patent lawyer that there are NO legal (patent/intellectual property law) risks in doing this, and that fee would probably be the largest single expense.

From reading about the Tyler operation on various forums, it looks like they treat the business as a custom shop - you order a J-frame adapter and they go make it and send it to you. They appear to maintain no inventory - an unbelievable way to run a standard-product business that has been around long enough to know what the market demand is for each of its products. (Of course, maybe it's a you order a J-frame adapter and we wait until we have enough orders to make a run - if that's the case then somebody OUGHT to come along and put 'em out of business with a duplicate product that's readily available at a reasonable price.)

It's an interesting project to contemplate. Might lose a little money. But might get swamped with orders, and then where would I be?

Vonderek
April 23, 2011, 12:17 PM
Something doesn't make sense with that eBay auction. All the other T-Grips on eBay are currently in the $30-$45 range. The one T-Grip I bought from the company has no markings on it while the sample that was bid up to $255 looks like it has their logo laser-etched on it. Maybe it's a rare limited edition model or something.

ColtPythonElite
April 23, 2011, 04:07 PM
Those markings aren't rare. The early ones came that way....So did the one I recently bought for 20-some bucks.

highorder
April 23, 2011, 04:35 PM
I need a T-grip for a Colt Detective Special. PM me if you want to sell one.

Vonderek
April 23, 2011, 04:52 PM
I've got one for a K-frame if anyone's interested...it's a deal at only $254.99!:D

hawkass13
April 23, 2011, 05:09 PM
I had this one in the b/s/t a while back. Not sure what it fits. It's too big for my Charter Undercover. There are no markings on the sides but there is a star and the number two on the back. I still have it laying around on my reloading bench if anyone is looking for one.
http://www.nordom.net//hawkass13/cs10.jpg
http://www.nordom.net//hawkass13/cs11.jpg

1KPerDay
April 24, 2011, 01:25 AM
hawkass, FYI the Tyler number 2 supposedly fits:

For Smith & Wesson "J" frame revolvers made before 1955. Chief, Terrier, etc. Also for EIG E9, INA, Tiger, Llama X111, some late model Charter Arms, with standard grips.

1KPerDay
April 24, 2011, 01:26 AM
Those markings aren't rare. The early ones came that way....So did the one I recently bought for 20-some bucks.
Same here...

CajunBass
April 24, 2011, 09:52 AM
I don't know what's going on with the company or the auctions, but I sent in an order about a week ago. They have cashed my check, so there must be at least someone to pick-up the mail and go to the bank. :D

Cosmoline
May 18, 2011, 01:05 PM
There were some serious health problems a while back and that caused about a 6 month backlog. I eventually got the one I ordered, but expect a wait.

451 Detonics
May 18, 2011, 01:20 PM
Makes me glad I have a boxfull left over from when I had my gunshop...I did not realize the prices where so insane.

Cards81fan
May 18, 2011, 02:35 PM
I know a couple ways of looking for public records in my home state, and I could find nothing about them being shut down due to a court order or taxes owed. These are both public record here.

Also this would most certainly have made the news here, as tax collection is a bit of a hot topic in OK right now (for a variety of reasons) and the media outlets are covering even the smallest news of note related to the issue.

I am almost certain it is due to supply not meeting demand. As the firearms industry has had a bit of a renaissance in the past 2-3 years, and revolvers have particularly has some increased popularity, and the T-grip has been exposed as a classy (well, classier than a big rubber grip) way to add functionality to a revolver, I reckon they are just overwhelmed.

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