Glock 21 or 1911 Full Size?


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DontShootMe
January 11, 2004, 04:38 PM
Please help me decide on a range gun:

I have narrowed my choices down to:

Glock 21 or a Stainless Springfield/Colt entry level 1911

Reasons for Glock:
1. Higher capacity
2. will fit my existing M6 tac light/laser
3. I am a fan of the Glock pistol (I own others)

Reasons for 1911:
1. Pretty!
2. Shouldn't everyone have at least one?


additonal info:
I will NOT carry this gun
The gun may be available for HD, but the shotty will be 1st grab, so that really doesn't matter either.

(btw, I'm gonna post this on GlockTalk as well, but the opinions over there may be a bit biased ;)

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OF
January 11, 2004, 04:47 PM
Two different animals for two different kinds of people.

Do you want something that will provide a load-it-and-forget-it pistol solution or are you looking for something that might require some more attention, but can ultimately be more rewarding?

The Glock is what it is, the 1911 can be what you want it to be - but you have to be more involved...it is a 100-year-old design after all. :)

For a new shooter, or someone not all that interested in learning about guns in any kind of depth, just looking for a solution to a problem: I'd recommend the 21. For an experienced shooter looking for something they can grow with: I'd recommend the 1911.

- Gabe

riverdog
January 11, 2004, 04:47 PM
Buy the 1911 now, get a Glock after the AWB sunsets and they start coming with full cap mags again. I've got both, they each have their place.

OF
January 11, 2004, 04:48 PM
PS: If you have other Glocks and don't have a 1911, there's your answer right there!

- Gabe

Black Majik
January 11, 2004, 04:51 PM
My vote is definitely for the 1911. Since you already have multiple glocks, give the 1911's a try. IMO they're more accurate to shoot and they're just beautiful to look at and fondle :uhoh: :p

A little variety never hurt anyone... go for the 1911 and be converted!

:D

denfoote
January 11, 2004, 05:02 PM
NUFF SAID!!!!

DontShootMe
January 11, 2004, 05:10 PM
I'm leaning HEAVILY away from the darkside now...

and into the stainless, custom wood grips, beautiful light.

keep 'em comin!

:cool:

10-Ring
January 11, 2004, 05:34 PM
Fullsize 1911!!!!! Everyone at some point needs one ;)

Mastrogiacomo
January 11, 2004, 06:11 PM
You might change your mind on the 1911 at some point and opt for a different gun than the Springfield. I'd get the Glock. For less money, you still get a great gun. I'd prefer an Argentine Sistema myself -- a fantastic gun for considerably less. But this is my opinion, and it's your hands and your wallet. Good luck.

natedog
January 11, 2004, 06:23 PM
1911's have more strong points than what you listed...

1. Very ergonomic
2. Cheap GI mags
3. Thin grip
4. Good triggers
5. Good accuracy
6. Very customizable

For a range gun, do you really need to mount a light?

George Hill
January 11, 2004, 06:26 PM
GLock, or Something else?


Something else...


Next question?

ninjalawyer
January 11, 2004, 06:32 PM
I voted 1911, but check out the SIG P220, too.

WhoKnowsWho
January 11, 2004, 06:37 PM
Since you already own other Glocks... and no 1911 yet, I voted 1911, currently, I own 3 Government Models and a Para Carry, and only one Glock, a 2nd Gen G22. I wouldn't mind a G26 though...

7.62FullMetalJacket
January 12, 2004, 12:41 AM
Glocks are....Glocks. Ugly, easy to maintain, not incredibly accurate, but they function. They go bang each time you squeeze the trigger.

1911s are in a completely different class. They can be plain-vanilla functional to chunky-monkey. They are beautiful and historic.

Devonai
January 12, 2004, 01:20 AM
IMO, magazine capacity is the only practical difference between these pistols, unless you're planning on a beach landing. If I thought the weapon was going to get sandy or muddy, I'd go with the Glock.

As much as I love my 1911A1, my Glock 17 gets the nod for abusive environments.

gabeodog
January 12, 2004, 06:44 AM
Get them both.:D

artherd
January 12, 2004, 06:47 AM
The G21 is a very fine gun (as is any Glock) but a Kimber is super-sweet. Get the Kimber entry gun with the rail. I too like at least the ability to mount an M6 to my pistols.

After shooting a Stainless Gold Match earlier today, yes, everyone absolutely should have at least one :)

phorvick
January 12, 2004, 07:32 AM
1911 !

ZekeLuvs1911
January 12, 2004, 07:34 AM
Three guesses as to what I voted and suggest..........

ZekeLuvs1911 ;)

Berg01
January 12, 2004, 09:52 AM
For CCW, I might lean towards the G21, but I'd definitely opt for a 1911 range gun, and I'd try to find a good used STI Trojan, as opposed to the new Springer or Colt.

Dobe
January 12, 2004, 04:42 PM
1911

Absolut
January 12, 2004, 07:04 PM
1911, then the Springfield XD over the glock, new 15 round factory mags for 9mm for $24 :)

Obiwan
January 13, 2004, 12:24 PM
I am a glock lover......

But...unless you have really big hands...get the 1911

Werewolf
January 13, 2004, 01:05 PM
I voted "neither - see my comment". :D Here is my comment...

Get an H&K USP 45 - prettier than both the Glock and the 1911. IMO More reliable and more accurate than the 1911 and more accurate than the Glock. But if an H&K isn't in your budget then the Glock for sure.

Since you are buying a range gun I suppose dealing with the not so rare jams that occur in anything but a mil-spec 1911 wouldn't be much more than annoying but why be annoyed? The 1911 had it's day and it's day is past (ducks and rolls behind nearest cover while screaming don't shoot - don't shoot). There are better .45ACP pistols out there and two of them are the Glock and the H&K USP (H&K - my preference).

cratz2
January 13, 2004, 01:30 PM
Though I have nothing against Glock (I own one, I owned another which I sold and will more than likely buy two more) I'm a long-time fan of the 1911 platform. If you're wanting a 45ACP for a range gun and you aren't going to be carrying it, I see no reason at all to get the Glock over the 1911.

jercamp45
January 13, 2004, 10:37 PM
The G21 is a functional, reliable handgun...a bit fat and chunky...but it works.
The 1911 has the historical interests, plus you can customize it the way you want for a personalized piece. It is also thinner for CCW and the hand. There are many more accessories for it...from 460 Rowland, 400 Corbon, 22 conversion units, etc.
What other gun chased Pancho Villa around the desert, went through two world wars, countless police actions, in every clime and place, cities, arctic winds, deserts, jungles, and vast amounts of competition... all the way to accompanying a gent who captured SoDamn Insane?
You want a beater upper that'll work like a pick up, get the glock.
You want something you can turn into a hotrod, get the 1911.
What fits you hand better?
Mine?...........1911's all the way. And my next gun...another 1911!
Jercamp45

zahc
January 13, 2004, 10:52 PM
XD or 1911

SnWnMe
January 14, 2004, 12:10 AM
1911.

Your poll shows a dearth of nods for the Glock

http://www.southbaybikes.com/1911sbench640.jpg

sm
January 14, 2004, 12:23 AM
1911

Bill Hook
January 14, 2004, 01:01 AM
The Glocks almost always work, whereas 1911s take work to get them to work, often as not. I think of 1911s like an European sports car - more fun than a Toyota, but more money and time involved to keep them running.

rauchman
January 14, 2004, 10:27 AM
For a range gun, the 1911 is a lot of fun. I'd have to agree with Werewolf though in that the USP, the Sig P220, and the Glock 21 have definite advantages over the 1911 from a CCW, LEO, or military application. Higher round capacity ( expcept for the Sig), more reliable design, lighter, less maintenance. When I was a kid, I thought the 1911 was it. Don't get me wrong, I still really love the 1911 design, but I don't think it's as reliable ( at least my experience backs this up) as the some of the newer more modern designs. I have a Springfield Loaded model, and it is the only gun I own that jams once in a while. All the other pistols I own are modern combat style handguns, and they haven't jammed on me yet. This would include a USP 45, Sig 226 & 225, Beretta 92FS, CZ75SA .40 ( although this pistol does not like Win White Box .40), and a Glock 19. Granted the Springfield hasn't been worked by a smith, but I think if you're going to buy a gun, it should work right out of the box. By the way, I do plan on getting one or 2 more 1911's at some point.

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