More Attic Guns Part 3


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Norton Commando
April 21, 2011, 08:57 PM
Here are two more guns from the attic. One is a Peabody black powder cartridge carbine and the other appears to be a Springfield flintlock. Does anyone have a better idea of what the flintlock gun is? Perhaps a Brown Bess? I'm open for suggestions as to what this particular gun is.

Thank you,

Jason

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BHP FAN
April 21, 2011, 09:11 PM
I'd keep them all...

CSArtilleryman
April 21, 2011, 10:05 PM
The flintlock is DEFINITELY not a Brown Bess. The Bess had NO barrel bands, and normally had a round-faced lock. I'm no real expert, but it looks to be a 1795 Springfield musket. The 1795 was the first standardized and official model of musket made for the US government, the first made by a US arsenal, and the first model of firearm made by the Springfield Armory.

CSArtilleryman
April 21, 2011, 10:07 PM
BTW, that is an abominable flint. As a matter of fact, I don't know if I'd even call it a flint. Throw it out and get you a good one-Dixie Gun Works carries musket flints.

Jaymo
April 21, 2011, 10:34 PM
The hammer looks French. Could definitely be American.

Malamute
April 21, 2011, 10:40 PM
My first thought was a French Charleville musket. The US used them in the War of Independance, and I believe may have copied them for production here, as was mentioned.

4v50 Gary
April 22, 2011, 12:27 AM
I think the musket is a U.S. musket, which in itself a copy of the later Charleville muskets.

Norton Commando
April 22, 2011, 08:19 AM
Thanks all for the leads and information. Yeah, I know the "flint" is way off, more like a rock.

I think I've got some more riffles somewhere; I'll post them when found.

Jason

arcticap
April 22, 2011, 12:24 PM
That Peabody carbine looks really nice.
What's the chambering or caliber?

Peabody carbines and rifles were made by the Providence Tool Company, Providence, Rhode Island; c. 1866 - 1871. The total production was, all models 112.000. Calibers were: .45 Peabody rimfire; .45-70 Government; .50 rimfire; 50-70; .433 Spanish; 10,4 mm rimfire Swiss. Barrel length carbine 20", rifle 33". Finish: Receiver casehardened, barrel blued, Iron mountings, Walnut stock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody_action

Norton Commando
April 23, 2011, 05:54 PM
Hi arcticap,

What's the chambering or caliber?

That's a good question. Years ago I made a sulfur mold of the chamber and it measured 0.462" at the bullet-end. The casing area measured 0.510" near the neck and 0.520" near the flange.

I was going to shoot this gun but never got around to buying bullets. So it's still as mystery as to what ammunition fits this particular Peabody.

Regards,

Jason

Dave Markowitz
April 23, 2011, 06:26 PM
I think that's a US 1795 musket. Concur on a new flint, that one is way too thick. Also, the flint should be wrapped in a leather or lead pad.

The Peabody is simply gorgeous. If that's the original finish, it's in amazingly good condition.

XxWINxX94
April 23, 2011, 09:41 PM
I don't think the flint is a brown bess, most of them had brass parts, especially the buttplate. It doesn't look like there is any brass on the flint, IMO.

Dave Markowitz
April 24, 2011, 01:54 PM
It's definitely not a Brown Bess. Besses did not have barrel bands, the barrel was pinned to the stock.

Berkley
April 24, 2011, 04:15 PM
I think if you turn that flint around so that the sharp end is facing the frizzen, with the blunt end in the jaws, it should work fine. It does need to be held by lead or leather so it won't fall out and be incorrectly replaced, as it appears to have been some time in the past.

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