Springfield 1911 Loaded problems


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predator20
April 23, 2011, 11:49 PM
I have Springfield Loaded I purchased several months ago. Overall it has been a good shooting gun. Today when I had it out it stovepiped on me twice. The cases were beat to hell when it did it. Ammo is WWB, bought it about a week ago. It had this same problem the last time I had it out (stovepiped once). But I thought it was because I was shooting reloads (GA Arms).

http://youtu.be/lBDLt-Ia0mM

I shot maybe three more mags after this and it shot fine. I bought the gun used, it had some custom work done prior to me buying it. Checkering, magwell, maybe some internal things too. I bought it off Gunbroker, so no idea who did the work. Bought it from Dean Forest RD. Guns and Ammo in GA.

What's causing the cases to get beat up that bad?

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wow6599
April 24, 2011, 12:04 AM
What's causing the cases to get beat up that bad

Uh, the slide catching it and applying pressure...............

Try using something besides WWB and change out your recoil spring.........if you bought it used you should replace the springs regardless.

predator20
April 24, 2011, 12:13 AM
Recoil spring has been changed. I went with a slightly heavier spring than standard, 18 lb. Do I need to go back to a 16 lb because of WWB?

wow6599
April 24, 2011, 12:32 AM
Do I need to go back to a 16 lb because of WWB?

With the crap Winchester has been putting out lately, you could probably go with a 14# spring..........or just keep the 18# in it and buy S&B, Federal, Remington, etc. Pretty much all in the same price range (Federal is cheaper, and my favorite) and can be found anywhere.

Here is a thread going on about some WWB problems - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=588520&highlight=WWB

bofe954
April 24, 2011, 12:51 AM
Your camera angle makes it hard to tell, but it looks like the brass is dribbling out of the gun. You could try the 16lb spring. Why go heavier anyway?

That failure to feed that happened made me wonder if your extractor was too tight. Has the extractor been removed and cleaned lately?

predator20
April 24, 2011, 01:04 AM
Your camera angle makes it hard to tell, but it looks like the brass is dribbling out of the gun. You could try the 16lb spring. Why go heavier anyway?

That failure to feed that happened made me wonder if your extractor was too tight. Has the extractor been removed and cleaned lately?

Since the gun was used, I figured it needed a spring change, I didn't think an 18 lb spring would cause problems.

No I haven't removed or cleaned the extractor lately. I'll do a detail clean tomorrow.

Thanks for the help guys.

J2FLAN
April 24, 2011, 01:11 AM
May be a ejection problem if if it does it with different mags.see if the extractor is "clocking" or if the extractor hook is damaged. Pull the extractor and inspect and clean it and the tunnel then check it for proper tension. Also check the ejector nose profile and see if it is broke. those things can cause the brass to get eat-up in the ejection port. If you are not running a steady diet of +P ammo why not use the standard 16# recoil spring, thats is what is made to run with. I have had your problem with a couple of 1911s and have corrected it addressing one of those issues.
OR, just try griping the gun correctly if that was you in the video, might be it.

Skylerbone
April 24, 2011, 01:44 AM
Whatever the problem you'll need to start saving for a new video camera. Always point the muzzle down range. Always. Then change your spring. In the video, your brass is indeed dribbling out. If you plan on mostly WWB you can go 14, if you were simply checking function with cheap ammo put the old spring back in and see where it puts brass before spending more money. It shouldn't hit your shoes and it shouldn't hit the guy 3 lanes down. Somewhere in between is where you want to be with the ammo you plan to shoot.

predator20
April 24, 2011, 02:49 AM
Always point the muzzle down range. Always.
While I guess I should be more aware of my muzzle. I'm completely surrounded by woods and nobody else is there but me. The camera is on a tripod. If someone else was doing the filming, I wouldn't have pointed towards them.

Skylerbone
April 24, 2011, 03:00 AM
Always.

I was hoping that was the case, as it apeared to be but still a rule to follow (or if you prefer, that whole 'never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy' bit). I know it may sound picky but old habbits...

I saw little in your grip to indicate any problem and you look to be well in control at all times. My guess is still spring.

predator20
April 24, 2011, 03:21 AM
I was hoping that was the case, as it apeared to be but still a rule to follow (or if you prefer, that whole 'never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy' bit). I know it may sound picky but old habbits...
I know what you mean. I generally like shooting by myself so I can be more lax. But it is an easy way to pick up bad habits. If I am shooting with someone else, I'm well aware of my muzzle.


I saw little in your grip to indicate any problem and you look to be well in control at all times. My guess is still spring.

My first few shots you can see I re-tighten my grip (just the ends of my fingers) and then I'm generally okay. That's the reason I brought the camera out there, so I can study it later.



I've cleaned out the extractor tunnel, it was pretty filthy. I swapped in a spare 16 lb spring, so I give an update the next time I get back up there.

gschoelles
April 24, 2011, 11:09 AM
Sounds like weak ammo to me. I think I'd go there before switching springs.

Skylerbone
April 24, 2011, 12:15 PM
Spring rate correlates to ammo used. A light spring will shoot most anything without fail but will allow the frame and slide to beat eachother to death when using higher velocity rounds. A heavy spring will force the slide forward too soon causing the FTE shown.

There is no need or sense in spending money for premium loads unless the pistol is meant to be used for that express purpose.

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