What is your favorite powder for reloading .45acp?


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jotjackson
April 24, 2011, 03:13 PM
Many folks are telling me win231.

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rcmodel
April 24, 2011, 03:24 PM
Bullseye was the standard military & match ammo powder for about half a century.

I use nothing but Unique.

W-231 is also very good.

rc

bds
April 24, 2011, 03:38 PM
Another vote for W231/HP38 - meters very well and produces accurate loads. I use 5.0 gr for 200/230 gr SWC/RN bullets.

For lighter recoiling plinking loads, Promo/Red Dot - doesn't meter as well but still produces accurate loads. I use 4.0 gr for 200/230 gr SWC/RN bullets.

The Bushmaster
April 24, 2011, 03:40 PM
W-231 and WSF...

NikonDutch
April 24, 2011, 03:43 PM
I'm the odd duck, I use Tightgroup with LSWC's

918v
April 24, 2011, 04:16 PM
Bulls***

RustyFN
April 24, 2011, 04:18 PM
WST

918v
April 24, 2011, 04:28 PM
WST

GLOOB
April 24, 2011, 04:43 PM
Unique

soloban
April 24, 2011, 04:44 PM
PowerPistol works good too.

GLOOB
April 24, 2011, 04:44 PM
Unique.

But I haven't tried most of the other powders listed in the thread. Maybe I'm missing out!

Hagen442
April 24, 2011, 04:46 PM
Tried several Powders for 45ACP over the years.
American Select was introduced to me for Loading 45 Colts by another SASS Cowboy few years back.
Burned Clean,Dropped Great and was easy to predict.
Worked up a Power Floor in AS to duplicate my old Titegroup Load and have been there ever since.
Hagen

918v
April 24, 2011, 04:50 PM
Tell us more about it.

hanno
April 24, 2011, 05:01 PM
Another vote for W231.

I also use Bullseye.

BYJO4
April 24, 2011, 06:06 PM
I use Bullseye. It is accurate, cheap, and meters perfectly. I have also used Unique with excellent results but doesn't meter as well. Win 231 is also a good powder.

capreppy
April 24, 2011, 06:33 PM
Yet another vote for HP-38/W231

Iron Sight
April 24, 2011, 06:36 PM
231

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
April 24, 2011, 06:37 PM
Unique for 30 years:)

helotaxi
April 24, 2011, 06:43 PM
Clays. Nice light shooting practice load that is really inexpensive as well.

Welding Rod
April 24, 2011, 06:50 PM
Odd man out here I guess... I like HS6, 8.0 grains with 230 grain lead ball.

Walkalong
April 24, 2011, 06:53 PM
Bullseye, N310, N320, N340, AA #2, AA #5, WST, & W231 have all proven to shoot well for me in one app or another.

Folks are telling you right, if you are shooting lead, W-231 is a great powder to start with.

browningwgm
April 24, 2011, 06:54 PM
HP-38/Win231 for my 200gr SWC's. I used to go through about 24 lbs. a year. I've since slowed down considerably.

Also like Titegroup with my 230gr Hornady XTP's.

Walkalong
April 24, 2011, 06:57 PM
I shot nothing but W-231 and lead for years as well. Try some N340 with those 230 Gr XTP's. It is superb for that.

joneb
April 24, 2011, 06:58 PM
I use W-231 and AA#5 for 45acp.
At first I used Bullseye and Unique.
I tried AA#5 as a replacement for Unique, #5 meters better for me and burns cleaner.

Gadzooks Mike
April 24, 2011, 06:59 PM
HP-38 with LSWC

Walkalong
April 24, 2011, 07:00 PM
HP-38 with LSWC
Which is, of course, W231.

JoelSteinbach
April 24, 2011, 07:04 PM
AA#5 or Titegroup

shooter_from_show-me
April 24, 2011, 07:10 PM
Titegroup for auto's and bullseye for the wheel guns.

mbonner
April 24, 2011, 08:33 PM
Geen Dot, as I have lots of it for my shotshell reloading. Herco too, as I have a pile of that too. Titegroup for my 38 Special wadcutter loads for my S&W 52-2 as a little goes a long way!
Mike

deacon8
April 24, 2011, 08:50 PM
I like Unique myself. In fact, I like it so much, I don't even bother with any other powder for the .45 anymore. I can do anything with the .45 ACP I want with it. Light charge, hot charge, light bullets, heavy bullets; doesn't matter, Unique does it.

EddieNFL
April 24, 2011, 08:57 PM
Over the years I've used 231, Herco, Bullseye, 452AA, 473AA, 540, N310, RedDot, Unique, Clays, Universal Clays, Titegroup, WST, Autocomp and some I'm sure I've forgotten. All work well, some better than others. 452AA, 231, Clays and Autocomp stand out in my mind.

These days I use 231. If 452AA were still in production, I could delete half (or more) of that list.

PO2Hammer
April 24, 2011, 09:02 PM
VV N310 and Titegroup. (light loads)

dudlee
April 24, 2011, 09:05 PM
Using Titegroup for 45acp, 9mm, and 45 Colt. seems to meter consistently in the Lee auto-disk..

supercalvin56
April 24, 2011, 09:23 PM
Clays is a good choice in 45 ACP with 185 or 200 LSWC. Clean, accurate, light, inexpensive.

Miata Mike
April 24, 2011, 09:30 PM
I use Bullseye, Unique, and most recently WST.

RugerBob
April 24, 2011, 09:32 PM
700-x works for me.

floydster
April 24, 2011, 09:36 PM
Trail Boss.

ColtPythonElite
April 24, 2011, 09:41 PM
Unique for lead.

Power Pistol for jacketed or plated.

Shimitup
April 24, 2011, 09:43 PM
I use Bullseye for lead target loads and mostly W231 and sometimes Unique for jacketed.

cfullgraf
April 24, 2011, 10:12 PM
700-X

Back up/alternates Unique and AA#5

gunlaw
April 24, 2011, 10:59 PM
I have used several powders for 45 acp but I always come back to AA#5

jfrey
April 24, 2011, 11:02 PM
Unique for everything. No reason to change.

Ala Dan
April 24, 2011, 11:06 PM
Universal ;)

blarby
April 24, 2011, 11:17 PM
Unique for me.

FROGO207
April 24, 2011, 11:25 PM
231, Blue dot, 700X, Promo, Unique. All work OK for me with various loads in different pistols. Use 700X the most followed by 231.

Sixty Gunner
April 24, 2011, 11:32 PM
Win 231

rg1
April 24, 2011, 11:48 PM
Unique and AA#5.

USSR
April 25, 2011, 08:35 AM
The beauty of the .45 ACP is, that whatever powder you've got around for loading 12 gauge shells, it will work just fine for the .45 ACP. In addition to W231, I also use Solo 1000.

Don

Jeff H
April 25, 2011, 08:41 AM
231 and Bullseye

Sport45
April 25, 2011, 09:16 AM
Unique for now. When it's gone I'll open my jug of Universal and probably use it fro a while.

THe Dove
April 25, 2011, 09:18 AM
A-5 and Titegroup.


The Dove

BullfrogKen
April 25, 2011, 09:58 AM
I used a lot of AA No 5. Unique works really well, too. But it's awful dirty. Lots of guys at the club really liked Universal Clays.

lmccrock
April 25, 2011, 10:09 AM
Depends on the power level. Clays is bad for ball-equivalent or pin loads, since it is hard not to get high pressure for those levels (i.e., flattened primers). But for mid-range and light loads, Clays under a 230gr lead bullet is super soft and accurate. I shot a bunch of W231 for mid- to heavy-power loads. Not as soft shooting, but plenty accurate. Titegroup also worked, but does not feel as soft as Clays.

Lee

Hansli
April 25, 2011, 10:20 AM
4.0 of Promo

ambidextrous1
April 25, 2011, 10:31 AM
I've used Bullseye for 50 years, except for the brief periods when I try something recommended by threads such as this. I always go back to Bullseye; I can't find any reason to go to any of the new "wonder powders".

BullfrogKen
April 25, 2011, 10:43 AM
But for mid-range and light loads, Clays under a 230gr lead bullet is super soft and accurate.

The guys at the club said the same thing about it. Accurate, and the most pleasant recoil of any powder. And it was very efficient. They got a lot more rounds from a pound of Universal Clays than most other powders, while still getting a gentle recoil impulse.

snuffy
April 25, 2011, 10:45 AM
WW 231 for just about everything in semi-auto handguns.:uhoh::scrutiny::cool:
Also light loads in .357 mag and everything in 38 special.

Cleaner, easier to meter, and cost effective, what's not to like?

Gadzooks Mike
April 25, 2011, 02:32 PM
HP-38 with LSWC

Which is, of course, W231.

Nah. Everyone knows that W-231 is HP-38.:D

BullfrogKen
April 25, 2011, 03:10 PM
Just to clarify, the guys were talking about liking Universal Clays. Not International Clays. Not "standard" Clays. Universal Clays.


I've never used it. I shoot a lot of 38 Super and 38 Special, and very little .45 ACP these days.

roadappletx
April 25, 2011, 03:48 PM
It depends on application. For accuracy: Bullseye, followed by Unique and Win 231. For all-around shooting, plinking, action shooting: Win 231 and Power Pistol. Of course, HP38 can be used anywhere you use Win 231. I have been meaning to try Universal Clays, Blue Dot, AA #5, Titegroup, WST and 700X. Some of these powders are very versatile and can be used with good results in a number of different cartridges. With 230 grain FMJ projectiles, Win 231 sees a lot of use. My most accurate loadings for 230 ball uses Sierra FMJ bullet over a carefully metered load of Bullseye. The powder burns kinda of messy, but the accuracy will make you wonder why you ever bought factory assembled ammo for you 1911.

ojibweindian
April 26, 2011, 07:23 AM
Unique.

SlamFire1
April 26, 2011, 10:19 AM
Bullseye especially for 200 LSWC's. I am transitioning over to Bullseye for 200's, 230 LRN, and 230 FMJ, but I have shot more W231 in the 45 ACP than any other powder type. W231 is a great powder.

It may be a while before I am totally using Bullseye, I keep on picking up W231 at estate sales.

Come to mine I am sure that there will be a whole bunch of unopened Bullseye at a great price. :uhoh:

ljnowell
April 26, 2011, 03:50 PM
In my lead bullet loads I prefer AA#2. Mainly for its metering quality, cleanliness, and low charge weights. For jacketed ammo I like Power Pistol.

ArchAngelCD
April 26, 2011, 06:25 PM
Mostly W231 (HP-38) and when I want more velocity AA#5.

243winxb
April 26, 2011, 06:33 PM
For cast lead, Alliant Bullseye for target. Then Unique for max. In the 45acp

EMC45
April 26, 2011, 06:42 PM
Bullseye.

dickttx
April 26, 2011, 06:49 PM
I had been reading a lot about how good HP-38/231 was so I bought a pound and tried it in several cartridges. It worked pretty good so I ordered an 8# jug. When I later tried it in my new Colt Rail Gun 45ACP awhile back the groups opened up considerably from when I was using Unique. Went back to Unique and they closed back up. Worked the Unique up to 6.4gr behind a 200gn MBC RNFP. It is accurate, no unburnt powder, and the cases are very clean.
I would really like to have a good HP-38 load for that, since I have a new jug. Anyone have any experience with this combo?

dickttx
April 26, 2011, 06:50 PM
I had been reading a lot about how good HP-38/231 was so I bought a pound and tried it in several cartridges. It worked pretty good so I ordered an 8# jug. When I later tried it in my new Colt Rail Gun 45ACP awhile back the groups opened up considerably from when I was using Unique. Went back to Unique and they closed back up. Worked the Unique up to 6.4gr behind a 200gn MBC RNFP. It is accurate, no unburnt powder, and the cases are very clean.
I would really like to have a good HP-38 load for that, since I have a new jug. Anyone have any experience with this combo?

Walkalong
April 26, 2011, 08:52 PM
If 5.0 to 5.5 Grs of W-231 won't shoot well in your gun with your bullet, W-231 isn't for you.

dickttx
April 26, 2011, 11:30 PM
"If 5.0 to 5.5 Grs of W-231 won't shoot well in your gun with your bullet, W-231 isn't for you"

Thanks. I believe I will revisit HP-38. I was using 5.2gr because that is what the Lee disk was throwing. I'll try the adjustable disk within your suggested range.

csbassplayer2003
April 27, 2011, 01:06 AM
Titegroup.

Have shot loads with Bullseye and its a perfectly fine powder, just seems dirtier than Titegroup. Buddy just loaded up 200 rounds of .45 acp with power pistol, can't wait to shoot those.

cavman
April 27, 2011, 01:46 AM
I shoot lead pretty much exclusively.

I have tried TiteGroup but just a pound. Every time I buy Bullseye, it is in the 4lb or 8lb jugs, so it has become the de facto powder I use.

Damon555
April 27, 2011, 02:22 AM
45 ACP = Unique.....that along with 9mm, 38 Super, 38 special and 357 mag.

You can load such a wide range of cartridges there really is no need for another powder for loading range ammo. If I want tons of power I reach for the H110.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/edlafond/Weapons/EDL_1616.jpg

Find out what works for you then buy an 8# jug.....No need to nickel and dime yourself with one pounders.

ArchAngelCD
April 27, 2011, 02:47 AM
dickttx,
Sorry but I'm no fan of Unique for several reasons and I find it very hard to believe W231 wouldn't make .45 Auto ammo that didn't shot well.

With any 230gr bullet try a charge weight of 5.5gr W231/HP-38. I use the same charge with a 200gr lead bullet too.

MtnCreek
April 27, 2011, 11:50 AM
Here's a couple that have not been mentioned:
Ramshot Silhouette (been using this for a few months and love it. Accurate, Clean, Meters Great, Very Low SD's)
IMR 4756 (Accurate, Pretty Dirty, Meter +/- Well, Shoots Smooth) This is a old powder that most people would overlook; may want to give it a try.

I've loaded (and still load) several others, but they've all been covered by the above posts.

ljnowell
April 27, 2011, 02:28 PM
Sorry but I'm no fan of Unique for several reasons

You and me both. I truly don't understand all the unique praise.

1858
April 27, 2011, 09:17 PM
I've been using Win 231 for almost 20 years for lead bullets, mostly 185gr SWC and it's proven to be an accurate combination. Recently, I bought 4lb of VihtaVuori N340 on Walkalong's recommendation after asking him for advice on a cleaner burning powder. I shot the last USPSA match using 6.1gr of N340 and a 200gr LRNFP bullet from MCB and it proved to be very accurate and a lot cleaner with significantly less smoke. I like it .... a lot!!

Kevin Rohrer
April 27, 2011, 10:29 PM
Unique

CZ57
April 28, 2011, 12:12 AM
Ramshot Silhouette (been using this for a few months and love it. Accurate, Clean, Meters Great, Very Low SD's)

I am using Silhouette with 185 gr. Remington Golden Sabers for performance better than factory. For factory duplication and cast lead 200 gr. RNFPs I use W-231. I have worked up +P loads with the 185 gr. GS using Ramshot True Blue and had good results. For my SD rounds I plan to use a lot of Silhouette as it is treated for flash and will go up to +P velocity without +P pressure.;)

ghostwriter
April 28, 2011, 12:20 AM
bullseye with 200+ gr jhp and fmj

grubbylabs
April 28, 2011, 12:45 AM
I use Unique and Blue Dot. The Unique is my favorite because I use it for my 44 plinker loads as well.

rangerphil
April 28, 2011, 10:13 AM
It's Universal Clays for me in 45, 9mm and 357 mag.

mcofboise
April 28, 2011, 07:14 PM
Been a one load per gun guy for years and the .45ACP gets 200 gr LSWC with 5.6 grains of W-231 with a recent switch to HP-38 because it's a couple bucks cheaper per pound. When I was shooting USPSA that was the most consistent major power factor load and it seemed like all the 45 shooters used it at the time. I have a dedicated powder slide for the Dillon that never gets reset from that load. I thought it was notable that the load is listed right on the HP-38 label. Granted I haven't shot them all, but every 45 I've stuffed those rounds into have found it agreeable.

mike

GLOOB
April 28, 2011, 07:30 PM
You and me both. I truly don't understand all the unique praise.
I bet biggest reason is because a lot of people start there and don't find a reason to change.

The reasons I like Unique over HP38, specifically:
Recoil: more of a shove vs a pop in 45. This is the most important reason to me.
Velocity: more of it.
Smoke: lower smoke, esp with cast bullets, IME
Cost: more expensive than HP38 per round, but still fairly cheap for a medium rate powder.
It's super clean in all my autoloaders. The only downside is the metering thing, which doesn't affect me as much, because I don't use a meter. I will probably find a better powder, someday. But it certainly isn't broke, so I'm not in a hurry to fix it.

I love the way HP38 scoops. I don't love the way it shoots. But after reading this thread, I may give it another try when I buy some lighter bullets. All I've been shooting so far are 230 grainers.

PM40
April 28, 2011, 07:39 PM
HP-38/W-231 and WST.

mohunter55
April 28, 2011, 08:17 PM
w231 for me....can we redo this thread with the voting feature?

ljnowell
April 28, 2011, 09:16 PM
I bet biggest reason is because a lot of people start there and don't find a reason to change.


That could be. I tried it after trying 700x and AA#2. I found it burnt dirtier than both and didnt meter as well as AA#2.

It seems like a lot of people praise it for the ability to load near anything with it. To me its too much in the middle. Too slow to load super light without a lot of crud left behind, too fast to make magnum loads. I prefer a faster powder and a slower one, as for in the middle, I found power pistol and never looked back.

Not saying anyone is wrong about it as a go to, there are way to many people that like it for that to be the case, it just didnt work that great for me.

foxmeadow
May 3, 2011, 12:30 AM
Clays for light accurate loads, HS-6 for hotter stuff. Both burn VERY clean.

John Balcer
May 3, 2011, 01:05 AM
WSF, and green dot for 185 gr. hp.

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