Can these steel targets handle 223?


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cyanide66
April 24, 2011, 06:41 PM
was looking on ebay and saw these steel targets, do you guys think that they could handle 223, and maybe even 12 gauge slugs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-6-Steel-Round-1-4-Pl-Knockover-Shooting-Target-/110677918599?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c4eb0387#ht_648wt_1139

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Dulvarian
April 24, 2011, 06:46 PM
Surprised to see that on eBay.

Sorry that I didn't answer the question. I would think 1/4" would stop stop HP/SP/frangible .223 without serious deformation as long as you were at a decent rifle distance.

But I'm not a steel shooter.

cyanide66
April 24, 2011, 06:51 PM
ebay has everything gun related besides actual guns lol.

Shadow 7D
April 24, 2011, 07:13 PM
depends on what alloy of steel they are made with
right alloy yes, wrong NO, or better, they won't last long.
Also depends alot on what you are shooting, cast lead, SP, Steel penetrater or just mild steel core.

Walkalong
April 24, 2011, 07:26 PM
Only 1/4" and no rating. I would be skeptical.

You need some 1/2" AR 500 steel in my opinion. It isn't all that expensive, and will hold up to many, many impacts of .223, as well as other calibers.

Shadow 7D
April 24, 2011, 07:38 PM
I have seen 1/4" hardox bounce .308 (actually 7.56 nato) and 5.56 and 7.62 soviet
so it really depends on the alloy

GoingQuiet
April 24, 2011, 07:52 PM
If you have to ask - generally the answer is no.

Thickness of steel isn't the issue here - it is the hardness that you need to consider. Do not shoot this with rifle caliber.

firemanstrickland
April 24, 2011, 07:56 PM
im not sure what kind of steel that is but my AR blows through 1/4 in steel like it aint nothing

Navy_Guns
April 24, 2011, 08:14 PM
It's hot rolled stuff left over from other jobs, so NO! your .223 will crater it and you'll deal with bits of jacket coming back at you. Having had to pull bits of jacket out of my shin bone from a similar experience, I don't recommend it. And once you crater it, don't shoot anything else at it until you get it welded and ground. Having a nice chunk of bullet jacket living in my triceps from THAT, I don't recommend it either. I'm a living (thankfully) example of why you don't want to go there.

cyanide66
April 24, 2011, 09:57 PM
thanks for the info, looks like i wont be getting these for rifle shooting :-)

taliv
April 24, 2011, 10:00 PM
that steel absolutely will not handle 223. Not only that, but setting rifle targets upright on a base means fragments and ricochets will go UP instead of down.

Chris Rhines
April 24, 2011, 10:26 PM
A36 steel is not suitable for ANY kind of target use, not handgun, not rifle, not shotgun. I'd stay away.

-C

Jeff F
April 24, 2011, 10:48 PM
A36 steel is not suitable for ANY kind of target use, not handgun, not rifle, not shotgun. I'd stay away.

-C


What he said. A36 hot rolled is soft steel not suitable for targets. I like to use A500 or better when I can find is for a good price.

Moose1995
April 24, 2011, 10:59 PM
223 will punch holes through 1/4" hot rolled steel like paper. You'll barely even see the target move.

IndianaBoy
April 24, 2011, 11:00 PM
Wideners has a great deal going on 3/8 AR 500 steel right now.

My 8 pack just arrived. The targets that I bought from them previously have stood up to LOTS of shooting from both my AR as well as 8mm mauser, 30-06, and 220 Swift.


Buy rifle steel once and it will last you years.

Owen Sparks
April 24, 2011, 11:17 PM
Once steel gets cratered it is dangerous as it throws metal fragnents back at the shooter. A few rounds with a rifle can ruin a perfectly suitable pistol target for all but long range shooting.

Dr.Rob
April 26, 2011, 04:22 AM
Dad made that mistake on a steel ram used for .22 cal silhouette shooting. Left a lovely .5.56mm hole right through the center of it.

Stupid thing is dad MADE the ram in welding class.

No extra credit for re-making it.

Tinker
April 26, 2011, 03:24 PM
I've always been an overly safe shooter. I've only had one safety SNAFU and it was with a custom spinner plate target I'd built once.

The plates were 6"x3/8" mild steel plate....built to handle large bore pistol and my .50 cal muzzleloader plinking. The thing worked flawlessly. .40 cal pistol would just budge it...250gr/.50cal ML/110gr BP loads would spin it nicely. We popped it all day long. It worked great untill I had the bright idea to give it a go with a freind's AR. Not only did the .223 drill a hole in the plate, (as mentioned above) a tiny piece of bullet jacket came back at us (75 yards) and actually lodged in a friend's skin. It was only enough to sting him, but I felt horrible.

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