Beretta Discount


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Nushif
April 25, 2011, 12:44 AM
I was perusing the Beretta website once again, drooling over the PX4 compact and .... ran into the link stating that any prior or retired Active Duty or current Reservist can get 50 bucks knocked off the price of a brand spankin' new Beretta!

that's 10% off! I navigated to it and looked through the instructions. And part of them includes completing a PAL.
A letter that includes the complete letterhead of your agency (In my case the National Guard, or the Air Force, or the Navy) and a small blob of text.
I got to reading the text. And in it it states something to the effect of the gun that's being purchased cannot be used for exclusively personal reasons and has to be used in the line of duty.
But here's the deal:
Active Duty you can not use a non issued weapon.
Retired Active Duty ... by definition you don't have a duty ... so no duty to use it for.
Reservists fall under the same deal, you can't use a non issued weapon in the line of duty.
So here's my question ... WHY ON EARTH do you need to get this letter ... which basically precludes half the people they're marketing to from the discount.

Gah!

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crm7290
April 25, 2011, 01:08 AM
That is pretty stupid, but how will Beretta know the difference? Just do it and train with it one time at the range and then its not exclusively for personal use.

Nushif
April 25, 2011, 04:51 PM
The issue is that even being staff my CO would never sign off on that letter because it's a falsehood.

The gun *isn't* for duty use by definition because *I* wouldn't be buying it. But the discount goes on and on about the people "who sacrificed and should be rewarded with money off their own Beretta." or some-such. Well. The point is that the letter prevents any and all prior or current military personnel from getting the discount. If their CO plays by the rules even remotely.
So instead of being a "Uniform Discount" it's a "Cop Discount." Unless the department also issues out guns.

USAF_Vet
April 25, 2011, 05:11 PM
You know how easy it is to fake a letterhead? Might be ethically and morally questionable, but not illegal.

stating that any prior or retired Active Duty or current Reservist

Ok, I'm prior active duty, but I'm not retired, a reservist (not even inactive reserve status), etc. According to this, I would be eligible.

Don't know why they would throw the 'Duty use' caveat in there. It's almost insulting.

gunnutery
April 25, 2011, 05:14 PM
Sorry I hadn't read the original Beretta promotion, but when it says "active duty" does it only include military, or is LE included?

It doesn't sound like it'd work for the military users at all, but some LE depts allow officers to use a sidearm of the officer's choosing (usually rural LE).

Nushif
April 25, 2011, 05:17 PM
Don't know why they would throw the 'Duty use' caveat in there. It's almost insulting.

Exactly.

crazysccrmd
April 25, 2011, 05:28 PM
You should have no problem doing this, you don't even need a PAL from your command. The instructions say you need the PAL or a copy of your credentials (military ID), not both. It also says you 'will use the purchased firearm(s) exclusively for personal/professional use and that the firearm(s) is (are)
not being acquired for the purposes of transfer or resale.'

I would take this to mean that you don't have to acquire the firearm strictly for use on the job and you do not need your command/supervisor signatures to take part in this rebate program.

Nushif
April 25, 2011, 05:30 PM
The instructions say you need the PAL or a copy of your credentials (military ID), not both.

Phew! Glad I misread that!
Because that would have been ridiculous.

Balrog
April 25, 2011, 06:04 PM
You know how easy it is to fake a letterhead? Might be ethically and morally questionable, but not illegal.

How could faking an official government document not be illegal?

Shadow 7D
April 25, 2011, 06:24 PM
using the letterhead, would be fraud...
forging the images/letterhead not illegal as far as I know

gathert
April 25, 2011, 06:26 PM
Forging and not illegal in the same sentence...:scrutiny: I'm going to let you figure that one out.

Shadow 7D
April 25, 2011, 06:56 PM
I can sign some famous type persons name on some piece of collectible memorabilia
I have FORGED IT
NOT illegal

I now turn and knowingly sell it as an Autographed collectible, I have now perpetrated a fraud.

FROGO207
April 25, 2011, 09:19 PM
Just go to Buds Police Supply__ budspolicesupply.com and you can get a discount if you are military or retired, police, fire fighter, judge, DA or other qualified individual for many different firearms manufacturers not just Beretta. You must have a valid ID and provide a copy to them. Info on the main site.

Shadow 7D
April 26, 2011, 04:54 AM
So, this is the ticky part, personal side arms are banned from the military (except maybe generals, and SF just buy what they want on a military charge card (Hence not personal) so...
only cops??

crazysccrmd
April 26, 2011, 09:22 AM
It says you can order it for personal or professional use, meaning you don't have to use the firearm specifically for your job.

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